Tips on gaining muscle for a woman!

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Thoughts and tips? I'm quite new to it! I'm training hard, but finding nutrition trickier!

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  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
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    trickier how?
  • Gimsteinn
    Gimsteinn Posts: 7,678 Member
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    I found that Cod fish oil helped me... like crazy. I didn't have to eat in surplus but I tried that cause everyone kept saying you had to eat more than you burned to pack on muscles.
    But most people will tell you to eat more than you burn. My coach is actually against that and says that if you're eating healthy you don't have to worry about calories or bulk/cut. The muscle will come if you just keep eating, work out and stick to healthy, clean food. (wish I had met my coach before I started a bulk lol)
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
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    Gimsteinn wrote: »
    I found that Cod fish oil helped me... like crazy. I didn't have to eat in surplus but I tried that cause everyone kept saying you had to eat more than you burned to pack on muscles.
    But most people will tell you to eat more than you burn. My coach is actually against that and says that if you're eating healthy you don't have to worry about calories or bulk/cut. The muscle will come if you just keep eating, work out and stick to healthy, clean food. (wish I had met my coach before I started a bulk lol)

    so your coach told you to recomp?
  • Gimsteinn
    Gimsteinn Posts: 7,678 Member
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    Gimsteinn wrote: »
    I found that Cod fish oil helped me... like crazy. I didn't have to eat in surplus but I tried that cause everyone kept saying you had to eat more than you burned to pack on muscles.
    But most people will tell you to eat more than you burn. My coach is actually against that and says that if you're eating healthy you don't have to worry about calories or bulk/cut. The muscle will come if you just keep eating, work out and stick to healthy, clean food. (wish I had met my coach before I started a bulk lol)

    so your coach told you to recomp?

    Yeah, I find it more effective than bulking.
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
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    Gimsteinn wrote: »
    Gimsteinn wrote: »
    I found that Cod fish oil helped me... like crazy. I didn't have to eat in surplus but I tried that cause everyone kept saying you had to eat more than you burned to pack on muscles.
    But most people will tell you to eat more than you burn. My coach is actually against that and says that if you're eating healthy you don't have to worry about calories or bulk/cut. The muscle will come if you just keep eating, work out and stick to healthy, clean food. (wish I had met my coach before I started a bulk lol)

    so your coach told you to recomp?

    Yeah, I find it more effective than bulking.

    great, whatever works.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,389 MFP Moderator
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    Gimsteinn wrote: »
    Gimsteinn wrote: »
    I found that Cod fish oil helped me... like crazy. I didn't have to eat in surplus but I tried that cause everyone kept saying you had to eat more than you burned to pack on muscles.
    But most people will tell you to eat more than you burn. My coach is actually against that and says that if you're eating healthy you don't have to worry about calories or bulk/cut. The muscle will come if you just keep eating, work out and stick to healthy, clean food. (wish I had met my coach before I started a bulk lol)

    so your coach told you to recomp?

    Yeah, I find it more effective than bulking.

    The rate of muscle growth isn't faster in a recomp than a bulk. Bulks are the most optimal setting due to an energy surplus, which is different than being the most optimal for you. Glad it's working and it's a great solution for those who are afraid of fat gains or have other activities that require them to be lean.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,389 MFP Moderator
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    yayabeaks wrote: »
    Thoughts and tips? I'm quite new to it! I'm training hard, but finding nutrition trickier!

    If you are ok with fat growth to achieve muscle growth, you can bulk by eating in a slight surplus and following a good progressive overload lifting program. If you are afraid or your nutrition is not good, try to set your calories at maintenance and follow a good progressive overload program. If you can't dial in your diet, than you will screw up results on both plans. But eating at maintenance or trying to, gives you less opportunity to just get fat.
  • Gimsteinn
    Gimsteinn Posts: 7,678 Member
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    psuLemon wrote: »
    Gimsteinn wrote: »
    Gimsteinn wrote: »
    I found that Cod fish oil helped me... like crazy. I didn't have to eat in surplus but I tried that cause everyone kept saying you had to eat more than you burned to pack on muscles.
    But most people will tell you to eat more than you burn. My coach is actually against that and says that if you're eating healthy you don't have to worry about calories or bulk/cut. The muscle will come if you just keep eating, work out and stick to healthy, clean food. (wish I had met my coach before I started a bulk lol)

    so your coach told you to recomp?

    Yeah, I find it more effective than bulking.

    The rate of muscle growth isn't faster in a recomp than a bulk. Bulks are the most optimal setting due to an energy surplus, which is different than being the most optimal for you. Glad it's working and it's a great solution for those who are afraid of fat gains or have other activities that require them to be lean.

    That's why I said: "I find it more effective" not "It's more effective" ;)
    What works for me won't necessarily work for everyone as we're all different.
  • yayabeaks
    yayabeaks Posts: 107 Member
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    Thanks. And cause I don't have much clue, by tricky I meant trying to eat all that protein but not wanting to get chubs haha. Your responses are very helpful!
  • sardelsa
    sardelsa Posts: 9,812 Member
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    Gimsteinn wrote: »
    I found that Cod fish oil helped me... like crazy. I didn't have to eat in surplus but I tried that cause everyone kept saying you had to eat more than you burned to pack on muscles.
    But most people will tell you to eat more than you burn. My coach is actually against that and says that if you're eating healthy you don't have to worry about calories or bulk/cut. The muscle will come if you just keep eating, work out and stick to healthy, clean food. (wish I had met my coach before I started a bulk lol)

    I think for some females, especially just starting out.. recomp is a good approach especially if they are near or at their goal weight, not at their ideal BF% (but somewhat close) and want to grow a little and lose a little in different areas. In my case it would not have been enough, I was pretty lean (and under muscled) that recomp would not have been optimal for me, so it will definitely depend on your starting weight and body fat % and how much you want to grow.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,389 MFP Moderator
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    sardelsa wrote: »
    Gimsteinn wrote: »
    I found that Cod fish oil helped me... like crazy. I didn't have to eat in surplus but I tried that cause everyone kept saying you had to eat more than you burned to pack on muscles.
    But most people will tell you to eat more than you burn. My coach is actually against that and says that if you're eating healthy you don't have to worry about calories or bulk/cut. The muscle will come if you just keep eating, work out and stick to healthy, clean food. (wish I had met my coach before I started a bulk lol)

    I think for some females, especially just starting out.. recomp is a good approach especially if they are near or at their goal weight, not at their ideal BF% (but somewhat close) and want to grow a little and lose a little in different areas. In my case it would not have been enough, I was pretty lean (and under muscled) that recomp would not have been optimal for me, so it will definitely depend on your starting weight and body fat % and how much you want to grow.

    I'd largely agree, especially if there is a fear of getting fat.



    BTW OP, how much protein do you think you need? Most women I know, only need 100-120g while cutting, which is the most important time to have high amounts of protein (outside of satiety).
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,139 Member
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    Gimsteinn wrote: »
    I found that Cod fish oil helped me... like crazy. I didn't have to eat in surplus but I tried that cause everyone kept saying you had to eat more than you burned to pack on muscles.
    But most people will tell you to eat more than you burn. My coach is actually against that and says that if you're eating healthy you don't have to worry about calories or bulk/cut. The muscle will come if you just keep eating, work out and stick to healthy, clean food. (wish I had met my coach before I started a bulk lol)

    so basically you are recomping?

  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,139 Member
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    Gimsteinn wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    Gimsteinn wrote: »
    Gimsteinn wrote: »
    I found that Cod fish oil helped me... like crazy. I didn't have to eat in surplus but I tried that cause everyone kept saying you had to eat more than you burned to pack on muscles.
    But most people will tell you to eat more than you burn. My coach is actually against that and says that if you're eating healthy you don't have to worry about calories or bulk/cut. The muscle will come if you just keep eating, work out and stick to healthy, clean food. (wish I had met my coach before I started a bulk lol)

    so your coach told you to recomp?

    Yeah, I find it more effective than bulking.

    The rate of muscle growth isn't faster in a recomp than a bulk. Bulks are the most optimal setting due to an energy surplus, which is different than being the most optimal for you. Glad it's working and it's a great solution for those who are afraid of fat gains or have other activities that require them to be lean.

    That's why I said: "I find it more effective" not "It's more effective" ;)
    What works for me won't necessarily work for everyone as we're all different.

    not really.

    we all have three choices..

    cut
    cut/bulk
    recomp

    the process is the same for everyone it just depends on what the goal is.
  • lorrpb
    lorrpb Posts: 11,464 Member
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    yayabeaks wrote: »
    Thanks. And cause I don't have much clue, by tricky I meant trying to eat all that protein but not wanting to get chubs haha. Your responses are very helpful!

    Weigh your food, log your calories, eat a little less carbs & fat.
  • fretsnsoccer
    fretsnsoccer Posts: 13 Member
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    Hi Yayabeaks what is your weight currently and goals for "gaining muscle" do u know your fat composition currently as well?