Lose weight while building muscle?
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richardgavel wrote: »
- 45kg reduction on the scales
- Waist line down from 120cm to 90cm (101cm hip bones)
- 20" Arms
- 32" Quads
- 21" Calves
+ Dexta Scans
but you know the usual veins showing and fat dissapearing is a better indication of fat loss and muscle increase1 -
Fat is a muscle energy source so larger guys will make better muscle gains from it even with a lower calorie intake, the only supplements that work are not to be mentioned either0
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As with most any other drug/hormone, you usually only see the nastier sides with excessive use, improper dosage, or not following proper protocol for end of use. Of course, there are some people who just get outright screwed in the genetic lotto and react poorly straight out of the gate. However, considering the number of people that have been on gear, if the sides were a given, we'd see them a lot more.0 -
i dunno about you guys, but I started my fat losing journey a few months back, been losing fat and gaining muscle ever since.
I used no supplement, just counted my calories and specifically designed my macronutrients composition to have 40% protein.
this is before:
this is now:
those pictures are 7 months apart btw.
Of course, I still got plenty of fat to lose and plenty of muscle to gain
EDIT:
I recently purchased one of those connected balances that give you an idea of your body composition:
here's the fat mass % evolution:
and this is the muscle mass %:
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i dunno about you guys, but I started my fat losing journey a few months back, been losing fat and gaining muscle ever since.
I used no supplement, just counted my calories and specifically designed my macronutrients composition to have 40% protein.
this is before:
this is now:
those pictures are 7 months apart btw.
Of course, I still got plenty of fat to lose and plenty of muscle to gain
EDIT:
I recently purchased one of those connected balances that give you an idea of your body composition:
here's the fat mass % evolution:
and this is the muscle mass %:
While your results are nice, those bioimpadence machines can be very inaccurate and not a true depiction if you actually gained muscle. Also, take into consideration those tools measure lean body mass, not muscle. LBM is everything besides fat.
Ultimately, doesn't really matter if you like your results.0 -
While your results are nice, those bioimpadence machines can be very inaccurate and not a true depiction if you actually gained muscle. Also, take into consideration those tools measure lean body mass, not muscle. LBM is everything besides fat.
Ultimately, doesn't really matter if you like your results.
Actually it delivers 4 different percentages every time: fat, muscle, lean mass and bone mass. But I agree, I don't take the results as sacred or absolutely accurate, I only use them as trend indication.
Ultimately, my point is, gaining muscle while losing fat is possible, given proper nutrition and workout, it's not sufficient to work hard, but you also need to work smart0 -
i dunno about you guys, but I started my fat losing journey a few months back, been losing fat and gaining muscle ever since.
I used no supplement, just counted my calories and specifically designed my macronutrients composition to have 40% protein.
this is before:
this is now:
those pictures are 7 months apart btw.
Of course, I still got plenty of fat to lose and plenty of muscle to gain
EDIT:
I recently purchased one of those connected balances that give you an idea of your body composition:
here's the fat mass % evolution:
and this is the muscle mass %:
you lost body fat which allowed existing muscle to show more + newbie gains, which no one is saying is not possible. What we are saying is that in the long term you cannot lose body fat and put on new mass in a calorie deficit..
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you lost body fat which allowed existing muscle to show more + newbie gains, which no one is saying is not possible. What we are saying is that in the long term you cannot lose body fat and put on new mass in a calorie deficit..
So true! However I doubt OP is asking about the latter0 -
Gallowmere1984 wrote: »
As with most any other drug/hormone, you usually only see the nastier sides with excessive use, improper dosage, or not following proper protocol for end of use. Of course, there are some people who just get outright screwed in the genetic lotto and react poorly straight out of the gate. However, considering the number of people that have been on gear, if the sides were a given, we'd see them a lot more.
was waiting for the #RoidRage to get thrown in, never admitted to use but its a given fact that any pro is using gear and will endorse natural supplements that they know won't get the results they lead everyone to believe, look up Tony Huge, Boston Lloyd and a few other open users and they cut the bulls*** about it all0 -
Gallowmere1984 wrote: »
As with most any other drug/hormone, you usually only see the nastier sides with excessive use, improper dosage, or not following proper protocol for end of use. Of course, there are some people who just get outright screwed in the genetic lotto and react poorly straight out of the gate. However, considering the number of people that have been on gear, if the sides were a given, we'd see them a lot more.
was waiting for the #RoidRage to get thrown in, never admitted to use but its a given fact that any pro is using gear and will endorse natural supplements that they know won't get the results they lead everyone to believe, look up Tony Huge, Boston Lloyd and a few other open users and they cut the bulls*** about it all
You're definitely not a pro though......0 -
NARCISSISTIC_PUP wrote: »Gallowmere1984 wrote: »
As with most any other drug/hormone, you usually only see the nastier sides with excessive use, improper dosage, or not following proper protocol for end of use. Of course, there are some people who just get outright screwed in the genetic lotto and react poorly straight out of the gate. However, considering the number of people that have been on gear, if the sides were a given, we'd see them a lot more.
was waiting for the #RoidRage to get thrown in, never admitted to use but its a given fact that any pro is using gear and will endorse natural supplements that they know won't get the results they lead everyone to believe, look up Tony Huge, Boston Lloyd and a few other open users and they cut the bulls*** about it all
Are you a pro? Do you make money from your physique? What is your stack? Do you cycle or B+C? What is your AI protocol? If cycle, how is your PCT protocol? Do you keep an eye on health markers, blood pressure, RBC, etc?
Curious
This is definitely not the place to discuss these things. Go to UKM or fitmisc.1
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