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Intermittent fasting and skipping breakfast

ebrass73ebrass73 Posts: 112Member Member Posts: 112Member Member
I starting doing a 16:8 IMF protocol about 3 weeks ago. I fast from 8pm to noon, and then eat from noon to 8pm. This is literally the only time frame that works with my schedule. It has been working well for me so far. However, I can't help but feel torn about not eating breakfast in the morning. Isn't it the most important meal of the day to fuel your body and get your metabolism going?

I guess I'm wondering if anyone could give me some insight and information on the benefits of IMF and whether it's worth skipping breakfast for or not. Also curious... since your body is fasting, doesn't it take in whatever food it finally receives and stores it as fat since your body might be thinking it's in starvation mode?

So many IMF myths! Help!

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  • ShawshankcanShawshankcan Posts: 797Member Member Posts: 797Member Member
    "Most important meal of the day" is either an old wives tale or a tag line created by the bacon and egg industry.
  • FatPorkyChopFatPorkyChop Posts: 78Member Member Posts: 78Member Member
    Well I have a different experience to share; breakfast is the most important meal for me - intermittent fasting did not work for me at all because of that. I tried and it really messed my internal rythme up, I wasn't hungry during my fasting period but when my feeding time came it went a bit out of control as I had cravings (I never use to have them)... so I went back to what suited me which was a huge breakfast, a very good lunch and a light diner. Thats pretty much my success story BUT everybody is different and you need to stick with something that work for you. As the IMF works well for you, stick with it and if you don't crave your breakfast and do not suffer from skipping it then don't worry about it :)
  • tomtebodatomteboda Posts: 1,777Member Member Posts: 1,777Member Member
    I think breakfast is important for people with low blood sugar problems and children. Everyone else can skip it if they wish.
  • heiliskrimsliheiliskrimsli Posts: 364Member, Premium Member Posts: 364Member, Premium Member
    AnvilHead wrote: »
    "Most important meal of the day" is either an old wives tale or a tag line created by the bacon and egg industry.

    It actually seems to have been the cereal industry, as @janejellyroll said. One of several articles about it: https://priceonomics.com/how-breakfast-became-a-thing/

    Immediate stand out from that article "...product invented by men like John Harvey Kellogg, a deeply religious doctor who believed that cereal would both improve Americans’ health and keep them from masturbating and desiring sex. "

    I've never felt better about skipping breakfast.

    He was definitely a kook, and pushed a lot of things for that reason. Including one of the most common neonatal medical procedures done to infant boys in the United States to this day.
  • afatpersonwholikesfoodafatpersonwholikesfood Posts: 639Member Member Posts: 639Member Member
    Skipping breakfast worked for me for quite awhile. I eat it now because I've become accustomed to it, and I'm trying to follow a 3 meals-a-day routine at the moment.
  • lemurcat12lemurcat12 Posts: 24,630Member Member Posts: 24,630Member Member
    AnvilHead wrote: »
    "Most important meal of the day" is either an old wives tale or a tag line created by the bacon and egg industry.

    It actually seems to have been the cereal industry, as @janejellyroll said. One of several articles about it: https://priceonomics.com/how-breakfast-became-a-thing/

    Immediate stand out from that article "...product invented by men like John Harvey Kellogg, a deeply religious doctor who believed that cereal would both improve Americans’ health and keep them from masturbating and desiring sex. "

    I've never felt better about skipping breakfast.

    If you haven't, you should read Road to Wellville (there's a movie too, but I have not seen it). The old NYT review is still assessible: http://www.nytimes.com/books/98/02/08/home/boyle-wellville.html
    It is 1907 and the reader is invited to contemplate the inventor of cornflakes, Dr. John Harvey Kellogg of Battle Creek, Mich., a paragon of clean living who prescribes for the patients in his sanitarium not one but five enemas every single day, as well as a diet featuring nut butter, grapes, milk, a mysterious substance called Protose and a drink called kumyss (which, according to one reluctant diner, "smelled like a wet dog"). The patients at the Battle Creek Sanitarium (known to devotees simply as the San) include the usual gaggle of the wealthy and influential: "On the horizon were visits by Henry Ford, Harvey Firestone, Thomas Edison, Admiral Richard E. Byrd and the voluminous William Howard Taft." It does not escape the doctor that his fortune and power owe much to their faith in him. But Dr. Kellogg is a man of convictions, too, and part of Mr. Boyle's purpose is to explore the workings of such deeply held beliefs.

    EVERY religion needs a skeptic, and for the religion of "biologic living," the author provides Will Lightbody, a wealthy young man from Peterskill, N.Y., who follows his wife, Eleanor, to Battle Creek, partly to protect his marriage and partly to seek relief from his own affliction, a gut that sings with pain every time he takes a bite. Will is a victim of earlier misguided home medication: in an attempt to wean him from drink, Eleanor has been surreptitiously dosing him with Sears' White Star Liquor Cure, which turns out to be tincture of opium. To break himself of his narcotic habit, he goes back to Old Crow. By the time he arrives at the San, Will is "just one more sick man in a wheelchair," watching his wife flirt with her doctor. Kellogg diagnoses Will's problem as "autointoxication" and prescribes a regimen of fasting, exercise, enemas and "sinusoidal" baths (wherein an electric current is passed through the patient's body while his hands and feet are immersed in water)....
  • staticsplitstaticsplit Posts: 93Member Member Posts: 93Member Member
    I hardly ever eat breakfast unless I actually wake up really hungry. Usually don't feel the need to eat until 11 or 12, even if I get up at 8. Eat when you like.
  • jjpptt2jjpptt2 Posts: 343Member Member Posts: 343Member Member
    There is no magic to IF. If it helps you stay on track with your intake, then it works. If it doesn't help, then it doesn't work. For me, it lines up well with my natural preferences (I prefer to work out fasted, I prefer to eat more in the evenings, I prefer bigger meals and feeling full) and I like having the degree of structure it gives.

    I'm not smart enough to comment on some of the claims made by IF people about manipulating insulin and how that impacts muscle gain and/or fat loss.
    edited March 21
  • lauracupslauracups Posts: 405Member, Premium Member Posts: 405Member, Premium Member
    I just feel better all around if I don't eat before exercise, so by time I get to that first meal it's after 11 at the earliest. I found it helps decrease my appetite for the remainder of the day postponing that first meal. All for I.F.
  • GaveYouPowerGaveYouPower Posts: 29Member Member Posts: 29Member Member
    Breakfast = Break - Fast. There's no time allotment.
  • diezel67diezel67 Posts: 90Member Member Posts: 90Member Member
    Works for you go with it.
  • PinkamenaD8PinkamenaD8 Posts: 28Member Member Posts: 28Member Member
    Yep breakfast importance is a myth, like the eating timing. I don't know the benefits of IF but for weight loss the only considerable variable is the CICO.

    Starvation response only activates over long periods of low calorie restriction like a survival situation so you shouldn't worry about it. You can eat 1 meal a day like Ironandwine69 and still have a healty metabolism.

    There are many studies about the food timming and weight lost. I posted this recently http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/early/2014/06/04/ajcn.114.089573.abstract
  • GiddyupTimGiddyupTim Posts: 2,323Member Member Posts: 2,323Member Member
    Actually, I have heard that nutritionists now tend to view breakfast as almost a kind of misconception, actually.
    Your caveman ancestors had no refrigerator. So they had nothing to open when they rose in the morning.
    So, if they woke up and wanted to eat, they would spend some time gathering or hunting first.
    The idea now is that that is the most natural way for the first meal -- after some kind of activity, not before.
    In addition, though some here have said that "your metabolism works 24 hours a day," your blood glucose levels do rise during the night, anticipating that you are not eating for a while. Nutritionists say that, therefore, first thing in the AM might be the worst time to eat: when your relevant hormone levels are low, your blood glucose is high, and you have been inactive.
    Unfortunately, I do not have a good reference for this. But I have seen it discussed a few different places.
    PS This is not a reference. But it is an article that discusses breakfast and intermittent fasting, and the authors conclude there may be benefits. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4042085/
    edited March 28
  • lynnbaumlynnbaum Posts: 247Member Member Posts: 247Member Member
    I am feeling a lot better about skipping breakfast after reading these post. I do break the fast with coffee. I just like to kick back and enjoy quiet time with dear husband with a cup of coffee. Coffee on the deck in the morning or around the campfire with friends. I have to think the last time I had cereal in the morning. I do like frosted mini wheats when driving or if you want a snack. Replacement for high sugar item because it is a high sugar item. No milk I like them dry. I too don't really eat till 10 or 11 and then I could have a pc. of fruit.
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