Not losing weight (with running)?
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I assume those are needed for the inevitable next thread OP starts a few weeks from now, asking for help with the same problem.0 -
OK gotchyaRedArizona5 wrote: »
Yea that is true. It was spread around like wild fire not took long ago all i heard is : (me talking in a granny impersonation voice) You better eat enough or or or your body will hold onto what it has and you won't lose weight unless you keep lowering the calories till your not eating anything then when you do you will binge then get fat." but have you or anyone else? heard of this? I'm sure of it.RedArizona5 wrote: »
Why do i here people saying that if your not losing weight and eating not enough your body is holding onto everything it can...RedArizona5 wrote: »RedArizona5 wrote: »DMLC2014 wrote: »
You should be eating around 1600 calories per day. When you eat less you put your body into starvation mode which you body wants to store fats. You need to feed your body everyday!You should be eating around 1600 calories per day. When you eat less you put your body into starvation mode which you body wants to store fats. You need to feed your body everyday!
Absolute nonsense. You don't gain weight eating too few calories. Examples: holocaust victims, anorexics, starving children in Africa.
When I read both statements it meant the same thing just stated…differently-am I missing something?
DML wrote [sic}…eating less puts you into starvation mode[sic}
3bambi3 wrote Nonsense{sic} you don't gain weight eating too few calories and gave example yet thats what Dm said and yet…its nonsense-now I'm def. confused because it sounds the SAME lol
No. It's not confusing. Someone stated that eating too few calories made you gain weight. I said it's nonsense. Because it is. You don't gain weight eating in a deficit.RedArizona5 wrote: »DMLC2014 wrote: »
You should be eating around 1600 calories per day. When you eat less you put your body into starvation mode which you body wants to store fats. You need to feed your body everyday!You should be eating around 1600 calories per day. When you eat less you put your body into starvation mode which you body wants to store fats. You need to feed your body everyday!
Absolute nonsense. You don't gain weight eating too few calories. Examples: holocaust victims, anorexics, starving children in Africa.
When I read both statements it meant the same thing just stated…differently-am I missing something?
DML wrote [sic}…eating less puts you into starvation mode[sic}
3bambi3 wrote Nonsense{sic} you don't gain weight eating too few calories and gave example yet thats what Dm said and yet…its nonsense-now I'm def. confused because it sounds the SAME lol
No. It's not confusing. Someone stated that eating too few calories made you gain weight. I said it's nonsense. Because it is. You don't gain weight eating in a deficit.
Hm now I see it, but your body can go through starvation mode and store fats -no?
No.
Walk into the right room and you can here people saying the earth is 6000 years old and dinosaurs and humans shared caves. The world is full of well-intentioned people who have no idea what they're talking about.
Eating too little results in weight loss - always, and guaranteed. Do it too long, and it'll even kill you.
Yes. We hear it everyday in the forums. It was bogus the first time, and it's bogus today. The body doesn't "hold on to all your fat" if you are eating in a calorie deficit.
Im glad I can move on from that dumb though-I do admit I'm a tad naive. I am learning. I can't believe i believed that though sheesh
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Not just vinaigrettes
try olive oil in a nice small rounded flask infused with garlic cloves and whatever herbs YOU like OP.
I like LOTS of garlic and rosemary. Theres a lot of options and just start with olive oil and garlic cloves and add however much you will like and let it infuse (just sitting all together) for a day and when you add salt and pepper its so fresh and yummy. I can eat infused olive oil with bread all day but hehe that won't help me will it… just use* it over salads if vinaigrettes are getting boring.0 -
Oh bloody el. I've lost track of who the original poster of this thread was. I think my post above referencing weighing your food was meant for @giki18
Who the F knows at this point
Walking on the road and reading mfp on my phone, does not a good combination make
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I know I was giving my piece about how i like my scale and then got off track confusing you and who knows who else-sORREEE0
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RedArizona5 wrote: »I know I was giving my piece about how i like my scale and then got off track confusing you and who knows who else-sORREEE
LOL all good. it's my own fault for not paying attention
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its ok 0
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RedArizona5 wrote: »
OK gotchyaRedArizona5 wrote: »
Yea that is true. It was spread around like wild fire not took long ago all i heard is : (me talking in a granny impersonation voice) You better eat enough or or or your body will hold onto what it has and you won't lose weight unless you keep lowering the calories till your not eating anything then when you do you will binge then get fat." but have you or anyone else? heard of this? I'm sure of it.RedArizona5 wrote: »
Why do i here people saying that if your not losing weight and eating not enough your body is holding onto everything it can...RedArizona5 wrote: »RedArizona5 wrote: »DMLC2014 wrote: »
You should be eating around 1600 calories per day. When you eat less you put your body into starvation mode which you body wants to store fats. You need to feed your body everyday!You should be eating around 1600 calories per day. When you eat less you put your body into starvation mode which you body wants to store fats. You need to feed your body everyday!
Absolute nonsense. You don't gain weight eating too few calories. Examples: holocaust victims, anorexics, starving children in Africa.
When I read both statements it meant the same thing just stated…differently-am I missing something?
DML wrote [sic}…eating less puts you into starvation mode[sic}
3bambi3 wrote Nonsense{sic} you don't gain weight eating too few calories and gave example yet thats what Dm said and yet…its nonsense-now I'm def. confused because it sounds the SAME lol
No. It's not confusing. Someone stated that eating too few calories made you gain weight. I said it's nonsense. Because it is. You don't gain weight eating in a deficit.RedArizona5 wrote: »DMLC2014 wrote: »
You should be eating around 1600 calories per day. When you eat less you put your body into starvation mode which you body wants to store fats. You need to feed your body everyday!You should be eating around 1600 calories per day. When you eat less you put your body into starvation mode which you body wants to store fats. You need to feed your body everyday!
Absolute nonsense. You don't gain weight eating too few calories. Examples: holocaust victims, anorexics, starving children in Africa.
When I read both statements it meant the same thing just stated…differently-am I missing something?
DML wrote [sic}…eating less puts you into starvation mode[sic}
3bambi3 wrote Nonsense{sic} you don't gain weight eating too few calories and gave example yet thats what Dm said and yet…its nonsense-now I'm def. confused because it sounds the SAME lol
No. It's not confusing. Someone stated that eating too few calories made you gain weight. I said it's nonsense. Because it is. You don't gain weight eating in a deficit.
Hm now I see it, but your body can go through starvation mode and store fats -no?
No.
Walk into the right room and you can here people saying the earth is 6000 years old and dinosaurs and humans shared caves. The world is full of well-intentioned people who have no idea what they're talking about.
Eating too little results in weight loss - always, and guaranteed. Do it too long, and it'll even kill you.
Yes. We hear it everyday in the forums. It was bogus the first time, and it's bogus today. The body doesn't "hold on to all your fat" if you are eating in a calorie deficit. Im glad I can move on from that dumb though-I do admit I'm a tad naive. I am learning. I can't believe i believed that though sheesh
It's okay, we all start somewhere. I suggest looking at some of the stickies (I think they are labeled 'Announcement' now for some great info.0 -
I did, about the measurements and I had known about that misconception with weighing stuff for a long while. Knowing that already its a good reminder and i always try to over log those items too. Currently my hiPS* love that I'm not eating PB out of the jar since a year ago i got a little to much info on whats exactly in it and so yeah i can eat it in desserts or meals where its so processed or so mixed in that i can't see it or taste the pb too well and the exception is reeces pb cups. i love those. I used to like chocolate with pb smeared as an ultimate fix but now i don't.RedArizona5 wrote: »
OK gotchyaRedArizona5 wrote: »
Yea that is true. It was spread around like wild fire not took long ago all i heard is : (me talking in a granny impersonation voice) You better eat enough or or or your body will hold onto what it has and you won't lose weight unless you keep lowering the calories till your not eating anything then when you do you will binge then get fat." but have you or anyone else? heard of this? I'm sure of it.RedArizona5 wrote: »
Why do i here people saying that if your not losing weight and eating not enough your body is holding onto everything it can...RedArizona5 wrote: »RedArizona5 wrote: »DMLC2014 wrote: »
You should be eating around 1600 calories per day. When you eat less you put your body into starvation mode which you body wants to store fats. You need to feed your body everyday!You should be eating around 1600 calories per day. When you eat less you put your body into starvation mode which you body wants to store fats. You need to feed your body everyday!
Absolute nonsense. You don't gain weight eating too few calories. Examples: holocaust victims, anorexics, starving children in Africa.
When I read both statements it meant the same thing just stated…differently-am I missing something?
DML wrote [sic}…eating less puts you into starvation mode[sic}
3bambi3 wrote Nonsense{sic} you don't gain weight eating too few calories and gave example yet thats what Dm said and yet…its nonsense-now I'm def. confused because it sounds the SAME lol
No. It's not confusing. Someone stated that eating too few calories made you gain weight. I said it's nonsense. Because it is. You don't gain weight eating in a deficit.RedArizona5 wrote: »DMLC2014 wrote: »
You should be eating around 1600 calories per day. When you eat less you put your body into starvation mode which you body wants to store fats. You need to feed your body everyday!You should be eating around 1600 calories per day. When you eat less you put your body into starvation mode which you body wants to store fats. You need to feed your body everyday!
Absolute nonsense. You don't gain weight eating too few calories. Examples: holocaust victims, anorexics, starving children in Africa.
When I read both statements it meant the same thing just stated…differently-am I missing something?
DML wrote [sic}…eating less puts you into starvation mode[sic}
3bambi3 wrote Nonsense{sic} you don't gain weight eating too few calories and gave example yet thats what Dm said and yet…its nonsense-now I'm def. confused because it sounds the SAME lol
No. It's not confusing. Someone stated that eating too few calories made you gain weight. I said it's nonsense. Because it is. You don't gain weight eating in a deficit.
Hm now I see it, but your body can go through starvation mode and store fats -no?
No.
Walk into the right room and you can here people saying the earth is 6000 years old and dinosaurs and humans shared caves. The world is full of well-intentioned people who have no idea what they're talking about.
Eating too little results in weight loss - always, and guaranteed. Do it too long, and it'll even kill you.
Yes. We hear it everyday in the forums. It was bogus the first time, and it's bogus today. The body doesn't "hold on to all your fat" if you are eating in a calorie deficit. Im glad I can move on from that dumb though-I do admit I'm a tad naive. I am learning. I can't believe i believed that though sheesh
It's okay, we all start somewhere. I suggest looking at some of the stickies (I think they are labeled 'Announcement' now for some great info.
i like using teaspoons when i know i want to be generous with condiments for example so that way it will = out to Tb and log as a tb instead of a teaspoon. i rush so much in and out of my apartment with finals week (tomorrows last day for now) so getting food packed on the run is a super accomplishment for me. and its fastest to use tsp and over account for calories 
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Hi..
I am a runner. I might be able to help address why running and weight loss don't always make sense together.
The first thing to beware of is that you are calculating that you burn 430 calories in 30 minutes running. I am here to tell you that unless you are Kara Goucher you are not running fast enough to burn that many calories. Figure 100 calories per mile for a 130 pound female runner or walker. Most national class women athletes run fast enough to burn 430 calories in 30 minutes only when they are racing at their hardest.
The next thing about running is that to run well you need carbs and if you run depleted - hungry...your body trains itself to avoid being depleted and you are training yourself to store more glycogen in your muscles. This stored glycogen binds with water and is very heavy. It isn't fat...but it sure can mess with the scale. Lots of elite women runners are surprisingly heavy for as tiny as they are. Your body is also getting better at burning fat so you are getting leaner...less fat.
There are other changes that are going on that can lead to weight gain for a runner. For example it is getting warmer out. Your body cools itself during running through circulating more blood around. The volume of blood increases for warm weather running.
There is also a tendency for exercisers to over- eat their calories back.0 -
snowflakesav wrote: »Hi..
I am a runner. I might be able to help address why running and weight loss don't always make sense together.
The first thing to beware of is that you are calculating that you burn 430 calories in 30 minutes running. I am here to tell you that unless you are Kara Goucher you are not running fast enough to burn that many calories. Figure 100 calories per mile for a 130 pound female runner or walker. Most national class women athletes run fast enough to burn 430 calories in 30 minutes only when they are racing at their hardest.
The next thing about running is that to run well you need carbs and if you run depleted - hungry...your body trains itself to avoid being depleted and you are training yourself to store more glycogen in your muscles. This stored glycogen binds with water and is very heavy. It isn't fat...but it sure can mess with the scale. Lots of elite women runners are surprisingly heavy for as tiny as they are. Your body is also getting better at burning fat so you are getting leaner...less fat.
There are other changes that are going on that can lead to weight gain for a runner. For example it is getting warmer out. Your body cools itself during running through circulating more blood around. The volume of blood increases for warm weather running.
There is also a tendency for exercisers to over- eat their calories back.
Wait, what? Are you saying your body has more blood during warmer temperatures? Or am I misunderstanding. Do you have a source for that?
No snark, I'm legit curious as I've always thought blood volume in the body was mostly constant.0 -
You asked for help op, and people tried to help you. You are eating more then you think. People don't gain weight eating 4000 calories per week. That's just ridiculous. Secondly, you are in a public forum so it's not up to you as to when people should stop replying. Don't get upset that you didn't get the answers that you expected, but you got the truth!! Get some professional help if you really think your stomach is so small that you can't eat normally. (Start weighing your foods and you'll be shocked. Guaranteed your eating more then you think.your not a special snowflake)0 -
Apparently exercising consistently in warm weather does increase blood volume as a method of cooling. . This is just one of many articles I found in a quick glance. Many of them are peer reviewed. http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/experts-body-wieght-ambient-temperature/0
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Apparently exercising consistently in warm weather does increase blood volume as a method of cooling. . This is just one of many articles I found in a quick glance. Many of them are peer reviewed. http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/experts-body-wieght-ambient-temperature/
Thank you! This airplane wifi made googling impossible. 0 -
If blood volume increases when you are hot, why don't I weigh more in the summer since it's 120˚ where I live?0
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kyrannosaurus wrote: »I eat 4020 calories a week (eat the same thing everyday so this never truly changes) And when I run (30min) I burn usually 430cal
BWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHA <breathe> ahhhahhahhhhhhhhhaaa.....
Yer funny, right.
HINT: You'd be dead in about 3 months if this were true.0 -
It has to do with consistent training in the heat not just being in the heat or sporadic workouts in the heat.0
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It has to do with consistent training in the heat not just being in the heat or sporadic workouts in the heat.
Seriously? I've been living in the heat (up to 120F in summer) and exercising outside for over a year now, and my blood count doesn't show anything abnormal in that respect. Well.. it showed I had a serious case of macrocytic anemia, but no increase in blood for sure. The doc (when I finally found one who actually noticed it!) said that many people are anemic here. But that's probably related to poor diet than anything else. Very little B12 anyway, though in my case it's an absorption problem.
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I was just answering the question for another poster since the topic was brought up in this thread. I am no expert on it and was just doing my own reading on it. There are a good number of peer reviewed articles on this and it seems to be an accepted function of the body. There are however many conditions that apply. I found it interesting.It has to do with consistent training in the heat not just being in the heat or sporadic workouts in the heat.
Seriously? I've been living in the heat (up to 120F in summer) and exercising outside for over a year now, and my blood count doesn't show anything abnormal in that respect. Well.. it showed I had a serious case of macrocytic anemia, but no increase in blood for sure. The doc (when I finally found one who actually noticed it!) said that many people are anemic here. But that's probably related to poor diet than anything else. Very little B12 anyway, though in my case it's an absorption problem.
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It has to do with consistent training in the heat not just being in the heat or sporadic workouts in the heat.
Seriously? I've been living in the heat (up to 120F in summer) and exercising outside for over a year now, and my blood count doesn't show anything abnormal in that respect. Well.. it showed I had a serious case of macrocytic anemia, but no increase in blood for sure. The doc (when I finally found one who actually noticed it!) said that many people are anemic here. But that's probably related to poor diet than anything else. Very little B12 anyway, though in my case it's an absorption problem.
Pathology blood tests don't tell you anything about the volume of your blood, only how much of a particular component per a a particular volume unit (decl, ml ect depending on the test) or as a percentage. Blood volume is usually kept withing a range by your body depending upon hydration, hormonal fluctuations, trauma, inflammation and infection plus a heap of other stuff.0
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