Exercise doesn't help you lose weight...say what?
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missysippy930 wrote: »Again, burning more calories than you are consuming
Exactly!! Burning more. Through exercise.6 -
I was pretty much too fat to do any meaningful exercise when I first started losing weight, so I focused on diet. That got me about 80% there. The last 20%, I've focused on incorporating exercise I enjoy and am training for a half marathon. I'm down more than 95lbs from when I've started. While I'm close to my "goal weight," I'm far more focused on fitness objectives now.
So yeah. 80% diet. 20% exercise.3 -
"Exercise doesn't make you lose weight" is not a complete or specific enough thought to just throw it out there as truth. "Exercise that puts you in a calorie deficit will cause you to lose weight. Exercise without a calorie deficit will not cause you to lose weight" would be more accurate.7
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Muscle toning is done in the gym. Weight loss is done in the kitchen.2
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azironasun wrote: »Muscle toning is done in the gym. Weight loss is done in the kitchen.
Still just catch phrases that are only sometimes true. Muscles can be toned outside a gym. Weight loss can happen even if you never enter a kitchen.3 -
YepItsKriss wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »azironasun wrote: »Muscle toning is done in the gym. Weight loss is done in the kitchen.
Still just catch phrases that are only sometimes true. Muscles can be toned outside a gym. Weight loss can happen even if you never enter a kitchen.
Yeah sometimes someone might toss a sandwich to you sitting in the living room lol
Or you may live in a dorm and not have a kitchen, or eat all your meals out, or have a family member who prepares all your food.
Weight loss comes from moving enough to offset what you put in your pie hole. There are 2 sides to the equation and both are important.2 -
azironasun wrote: »Muscle toning is done in the gym. Weight loss is done in the kitchen.
I understand this sentiment, but it just doesn't work well for me. Obviously I could lose weight by just controlling my eating. But for me, exercise and diet are intertwined. For me, if one falls off, the other is right behind it. Happens every single time. And I find it much easier to maintain a deficit with exercise.1 -
If your diet isn't controlled, exercise isn't going to do most people much good.
Weight loss comes down to diet in the end because you can mitigate the affects of exercise by not having diet on point.
The need to have pat statements about all this seems silly to me.
Yes, you can create a deficit with exercise. I do it myself. But I can only do that thanks to also controlling my food intake to comply with that deficit.
The two elements - diet and exercise - work in synchronicity. I'd happily eat up the calories exercise burned if I wasn't paying attention to my diet.5 -
Because I am old, I am losing weight slowly by diet alone. I have a 20 years younger friend, who did not adjust her already healthy diet, joined a gym and lost a stone (14lbs) in a year.0
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GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »If your diet isn't controlled, exercise isn't going to do most people much good..
On the other hand, eating a pint of ice cream every day and going for a long walk afterwards is going to be better and do more for anyone than eating a pint of iced cream and then watching TV. Exercise always helps. Exercise may not be a complete solution but it helps.3 -
In the end It's 100% diet. Exercise just adds to the amount of calories you burn in a day, but what you eat is going to decide what the deficit is. If you burn more and eat more, you're in the same boat.5
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One thing I've heard that resonates with me personally is that health is 60% sleep, 30% diet, 10% exercise. Philosophically (not scientifically) I have to ask: what is the point of a 'healthy' weight if you don't healthy-exercise? (Is it health if it's not the whole picture?) Also, what is the point of exercise if you don't get to a healthy weight?
The personal advice I give to others (that is scientific) is that you really need to go to sleep and get up at the same times of the day and make sure that you get enough quality sleep - that's the most important thing. After that, you have to make sure you have an appropriate and not-unhealthy diet (you can lose weight eating nothing but cheeseburgers portioned for calories, but then you'll get the scurvy). Once you've nailed all of that down, you should really start exercising. And the rules here are taper, taper, taper - ease into routines, start with a baseline you are comfortable with then add reps/time/weight/effort to step up your exercise game over time.2 -
@YepItsKriss Think of it as bumping of an oldie but goodie. Plenty of new users will get some education from this.1
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The sense in which to understand the "exercise vs diet" debate is to understand that "Diet" is what you habitually eat, both in quality and quantity, while "Exercise" is what you do, whether for compensating for diet or pursuing other goals. Exercise is what you stop doing while injured. Exercise is what you forget to do, slack off doing, or do ineffectively. Your diet is a long-term thing that doesn't actually stop. Your exercise is a short-term thing which can stop and be greatly variable.1
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comeonnow142857 wrote: »There's typically a lot more room to adjust CI, vs adjusting CO (especially if you're not at a spectacular fitness & endurance level).
I strongly disagree. It is so much easier for me to get off my couch and go for walk or ride and earn 300 - 600 calories than to restrict myself to 1200-1400 calories on a long term basis.
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I don't care how old a thread is, if there's an opportunity to talk I'll take it. lpl1
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