How do you find your Keto happy place?
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daylitemag wrote: »It wasn't the apples, carrots, bananas or other fruits that got me to 300LBS. LOL! What I am hoping to achieve this time around is a sustainable WOE that includes all of those healthy things (and yes, maybe even some good quality, whole grain foods, too). My problem is being able to stick with a healthy WOE. As with many others (statistically most others), I can commit to a healthier WOE for a period of time, but invariably I fall back into age old, bad habits. I can't even imagine what my "normal" carb intake might have been. Actually, now that I think of it, I might try doing a "mock" day on MFP just to see what a typical day would be pre-LCHF. I will come back to this thread and post the results. Should be an eye opener!
All you can do is try it and see. Is there a reason you want to be on a ketogenic diet? It sounds like the ideal diet you describe above is more paleo or perhaps "clean eating" and not really compatible with ketosis for most people.
I actually never really though about that. I have a good friend who swears by Ketogenic and I guess that's what got me interested. I also like the relative simplicity. I've always been a "meat guy" and so that also works for me. I started this thread by talking about fruit, but the reality is that I've never eaten a lot of fruit or vegetables. I literally cannot stand eating vegetables, but I don't mind fruit. With that said, I can easily go without eating either for long stretches of time. However, I WANT to change my evil ways, and this seems like a good option for me and hopefully something I can embrace, long term. For me there will always be foods that I have to avoid eating entirely, but as I'm sure people here know, it isn't always easy to "just say no."0 -
daylitemag wrote: »It wasn't the apples, carrots, bananas or other fruits that got me to 300LBS. LOL! What I am hoping to achieve this time around is a sustainable WOE that includes all of those healthy things (and yes, maybe even some good quality, whole grain foods, too). My problem is being able to stick with a healthy WOE. As with many others (statistically most others), I can commit to a healthier WOE for a period of time, but invariably I fall back into age old, bad habits. I can't even imagine what my "normal" carb intake might have been. Actually, now that I think of it, I might try doing a "mock" day on MFP just to see what a typical day would be pre-LCHF. I will come back to this thread and post the results. Should be an eye opener!
To be honest, I thought your desire to add fruit was maybe coming from a carb withdrawal, need for something sweet that you might be experiencing.
If you're wanting to add fruit and whole grains because you think they are healthy, I'd suggest digging a little deeper. I will avoid all grains of any kind for ever because they are just not good for us. And I may have had a small baking type apple on a trip to a farm this fall but I did it knowing it was a fructose laden sweet treat. Kinda like the way I used to think of candy. Well, how a person who knows how to eat in moderation would have thought of candy. As something that won't be a problem in a small amount once in a while, but it's not necessarily good for a daily diet.0 -
daylitemag wrote: »daylitemag wrote: »It wasn't the apples, carrots, bananas or other fruits that got me to 300LBS. LOL! What I am hoping to achieve this time around is a sustainable WOE that includes all of those healthy things (and yes, maybe even some good quality, whole grain foods, too). My problem is being able to stick with a healthy WOE. As with many others (statistically most others), I can commit to a healthier WOE for a period of time, but invariably I fall back into age old, bad habits. I can't even imagine what my "normal" carb intake might have been. Actually, now that I think of it, I might try doing a "mock" day on MFP just to see what a typical day would be pre-LCHF. I will come back to this thread and post the results. Should be an eye opener!
All you can do is try it and see. Is there a reason you want to be on a ketogenic diet? It sounds like the ideal diet you describe above is more paleo or perhaps "clean eating" and not really compatible with ketosis for most people.
I actually never really though about that. I have a good friend who swears by Ketogenic and I guess that's what got me interested. I also like the relative simplicity. I've always been a "meat guy" and so that also works for me. I started this thread by talking about fruit, but the reality is that I've never eaten a lot of fruit or vegetables. I literally cannot stand eating vegetables, but I don't mind fruit. With that said, I can easily go without eating either for long stretches of time. However, I WANT to change my evil ways, and this seems like a good option for me and hopefully something I can embrace, long term. For me there will always be foods that I have to avoid eating entirely, but as I'm sure people here know, it isn't always easy to "just say no."
Sincerely, you might investigate zero-carb eating - which is no fruits/no veggies. It has some amazing health benefits, too... @FIT_Goat and a few others here follow that plan. The calories tend to be more self-regulating and "simple." I personally don't think I would want to do it, but I might someday....lol.0 -
Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »daylitemag wrote: »It wasn't the apples, carrots, bananas or other fruits that got me to 300LBS. LOL! What I am hoping to achieve this time around is a sustainable WOE that includes all of those healthy things (and yes, maybe even some good quality, whole grain foods, too). My problem is being able to stick with a healthy WOE. As with many others (statistically most others), I can commit to a healthier WOE for a period of time, but invariably I fall back into age old, bad habits. I can't even imagine what my "normal" carb intake might have been. Actually, now that I think of it, I might try doing a "mock" day on MFP just to see what a typical day would be pre-LCHF. I will come back to this thread and post the results. Should be an eye opener!
To be honest, I thought your desire to add fruit was maybe coming from a carb withdrawal, need for something sweet that you might be experiencing.
If you're wanting to add fruit and whole grains because you think they are healthy, I'd suggest digging a little deeper. I will avoid all grains of any kind for ever because they are just not good for us. And I may have had a small baking type apple on a trip to a farm this fall but I did it knowing it was a fructose laden sweet treat. Kinda like the way I used to think of candy. Well, how a person who knows how to eat in moderation would have thought of candy. As something that won't be a problem in a small amount once in a while, but it's not necessarily good for a daily diet.
That's really what I was getting at. I'd like one day to be able to have a piece of fruit, or whatever as a treat.0 -
daylitemag wrote: »Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »daylitemag wrote: »It wasn't the apples, carrots, bananas or other fruits that got me to 300LBS. LOL! What I am hoping to achieve this time around is a sustainable WOE that includes all of those healthy things (and yes, maybe even some good quality, whole grain foods, too). My problem is being able to stick with a healthy WOE. As with many others (statistically most others), I can commit to a healthier WOE for a period of time, but invariably I fall back into age old, bad habits. I can't even imagine what my "normal" carb intake might have been. Actually, now that I think of it, I might try doing a "mock" day on MFP just to see what a typical day would be pre-LCHF. I will come back to this thread and post the results. Should be an eye opener!
To be honest, I thought your desire to add fruit was maybe coming from a carb withdrawal, need for something sweet that you might be experiencing.
If you're wanting to add fruit and whole grains because you think they are healthy, I'd suggest digging a little deeper. I will avoid all grains of any kind for ever because they are just not good for us. And I may have had a small baking type apple on a trip to a farm this fall but I did it knowing it was a fructose laden sweet treat. Kinda like the way I used to think of candy. Well, how a person who knows how to eat in moderation would have thought of candy. As something that won't be a problem in a small amount once in a while, but it's not necessarily good for a daily diet.
That's really what I was getting at. I'd like one day to be able to have a piece of fruit, or whatever as a treat.
Then I think you have the right idea
Cuz frute iz bad. Lol0
