Ketogenic Diet

cwolfman13

dionneh14 wrote: »

Wow that's amazing well done. I have set mine to 40% protein 50 % fat & 10% carbs.
Literally not touched a carb unless it's been in vegetables like carrots tomatoes etc.... Just wondering how people have got on. I'm not hungry at all which I thought I would be as I love my stodgy foods x

You're not going to go into ketosis with that much protein unless you're doing a lot of exercise and whatnot as the excess protein will just be converted to glucose. Keto dieters typically eat high fat.

JPketodiet

I've been on the Keto diet for a little over 2 months. My scale doesn't seem to be showing much weight loss (5-6 pounds) BUT I have lost 4 inches off my waist as well as an inch or two in other areas. I have gone down a size in clothes so I know it is working.

PamSwift

I just started the Keto diet last week on advise from my doctor. I wasn't sure if I could do it or not but then I started to get creative. So far I have lost about 7 pounds. I know a lot if that is water but i really want to get this weight off. At first I was just eating less carbs and more protein. I finally figured out I needed more fat. I'm going to need all the support I can get. My family and friends think I'm crazy for doing this diet. No one understands how you can lose weight and eat the fat that have been eating.

MKEgal

This is a medically-prescribed diet used to treat some people (mostly children) with epilepsy.
So if you're on it, you should do what your doctor & dietician have told you to do, and if you have questions, ask the medical professionals involved in your care instead of random strangers on the internet.
This is not something to do as a fad.


https://www.epilepsy.com/article/2007/11/side-effects-ketogenic-diet-identification-and-treatment
"The most common, almost “expected”, side effects of the diet are constipation, acidosis (especially with illness), and decreased weight gain (not often weight loss)...
less common side effects, generally occurring in [5%] include high cholesterol, kidney stones, growth slowing, and gastrointestinal upset... Very recent information also suggests that bone density can be a problem while on the diet..."
(there are also reports of rare but very serious problems with heart & brain changes)


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1198735/
"Gastrointestinal disturbances, such as nausea/vomiting, diarrhea, and constipation, also were frequently noted, sometimes associated with gastritis and fat intolerance. Other early-onset complications ... hypertriglyceridemia, transient hyperuricemia, hypercholesterolemia, various infectious diseases, symptomatic hypoglycemia, hypoproteinemia, hypomagnesemia, repetitive hyponatremia, low concentrations of high-density lipoprotein ... hepatitis, acute pancreatitis, and persistent metabolic acidosis. Late-onset complications also included osteopenia, renal stones, cardiomyopathy, secondary hypocarnitinemia, and iron-deficiency anemia."

Christine_72

I had to eat a ton of psyllium husk powder and take magnesium tablets when i was low carbing, without them i would have completely blocked up.

ogmomma2012

MKEgal wrote: »

This is a medically-prescribed diet used to treat some people (mostly children) with epilepsy.
So if you're on it, you should do what your doctor & dietician have told you to do, and if you have questions, ask the medical professionals involved in your care instead of random strangers on the internet.
This is not something to do as a fad.


https://www.epilepsy.com/article/2007/11/side-effects-ketogenic-diet-identification-and-treatment
"The most common, almost “expected”, side effects of the diet are constipation, acidosis (especially with illness), and decreased weight gain (not often weight loss)...
less common side effects, generally occurring in [5%] include high cholesterol, kidney stones, growth slowing, and gastrointestinal upset... Very recent information also suggests that bone density can be a problem while on the diet..."
(there are also reports of rare but very serious problems with heart & brain changes)


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1198735/
"Gastrointestinal disturbances, such as nausea/vomiting, diarrhea, and constipation, also were frequently noted, sometimes associated with gastritis and fat intolerance. Other early-onset complications ... hypertriglyceridemia, transient hyperuricemia, hypercholesterolemia, various infectious diseases, symptomatic hypoglycemia, hypoproteinemia, hypomagnesemia, repetitive hyponatremia, low concentrations of high-density lipoprotein ... hepatitis, acute pancreatitis, and persistent metabolic acidosis. Late-onset complications also included osteopenia, renal stones, cardiomyopathy, secondary hypocarnitinemia, and iron-deficiency anemia."

The nutritional needs of someone on a medically necessary Keto diet vs. non-medically needed keto diet is very different so that isn't really indication that keto is dangerous. Also, lowered my high cholesterol in all areas in 4 months of low carb... sooo... I am not one of the 5%.

nvmomketo

MKEgal wrote: »

This is a medically-prescribed diet used to treat some people (mostly children) with epilepsy.
So if you're on it, you should do what your doctor & dietician have told you to do, and if you have questions, ask the medical professionals involved in your care instead of random strangers on the internet.
This is not something to do as a fad.


https://www.epilepsy.com/article/2007/11/side-effects-ketogenic-diet-identification-and-treatment
"The most common, almost “expected”, side effects of the diet are constipation, acidosis (especially with illness), and decreased weight gain (not often weight loss)...
less common side effects, generally occurring in [5%] include high cholesterol, kidney stones, growth slowing, and gastrointestinal upset... Very recent information also suggests that bone density can be a problem while on the diet..."
(there are also reports of rare but very serious problems with heart & brain changes)


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1198735/
"Gastrointestinal disturbances, such as nausea/vomiting, diarrhea, and constipation, also were frequently noted, sometimes associated with gastritis and fat intolerance. Other early-onset complications ... hypertriglyceridemia, transient hyperuricemia, hypercholesterolemia, various infectious diseases, symptomatic hypoglycemia, hypoproteinemia, hypomagnesemia, repetitive hyponatremia, low concentrations of high-density lipoprotein ... hepatitis, acute pancreatitis, and persistent metabolic acidosis. Late-onset complications also included osteopenia, renal stones, cardiomyopathy, secondary hypocarnitinemia, and iron-deficiency anemia."

As the PP said, a medically prescribed keto diet is vastly different than a nutritional ketogenic diet. The medical one is always as low calorie as is able, with low protein and very minimal carbs. Nutritional ketosis is usually under 50g of carbs per day with moderate protein and can be eaten to caloric excess (like when bulking).

Everything you've listed there has been shown to be wrong for nutritional ketosis.

dianedemoss08

Well that was April. Now that it's September, how's it going?