June (2016) Running Challenge

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  • skippygirlsmom
    skippygirlsmom Posts: 4,433 Member
    MNLittleFinn wrote: »
    skippygirlsmom wrote: »
    @MNLittleFinn does the race have pacers? For my last half I used one because I wanted to make sure that I didn't go out too fast (I have that habit too) since I was recovering from an injury. A few miles with them allowed me to get into a happy pace and then I slowly pulled away and finished a head of them.

    yeah, they have pacers. I'm planning on sticking with the 2:20:00 pacer for like the first 5k, then use a big downhill, before the major uphill, to gain some speed so I am at a good "cruising speed" as I enter the 1 mile 130 foot climb. 2:20:00 is actually about 35 seconds slower per mile than my training pace, so it should make the first few miles easier.

    There's a decent dip halfway up the climb, so I should be ok pushing a little on the climb as there will be a chance to recover a little before finishing the climb.

    Here's how I have it mapped on Strava: https://www.strava.com/routes/5060879

    Looks like a plan!
  • Stoshew71
    Stoshew71 Posts: 6,553 Member
    MNLittleFinn wrote: »
    skippygirlsmom wrote: »
    @MNLittleFinn does the race have pacers? For my last half I used one because I wanted to make sure that I didn't go out too fast (I have that habit too) since I was recovering from an injury. A few miles with them allowed me to get into a happy pace and then I slowly pulled away and finished a head of them.

    yeah, they have pacers. I'm planning on sticking with the 2:20:00 pacer for like the first 5k, then use a big downhill, before the major uphill, to gain some speed so I am at a good "cruising speed" as I enter the 1 mile 130 foot climb. 2:20:00 is actually about 35 seconds slower per mile than my training pace, so it should make the first few miles easier.

    There's a decent dip halfway up the climb, so I should be ok pushing a little on the climb as there will be a chance to recover a little before finishing the climb.

    Here's how I have it mapped on Strava: https://www.strava.com/routes/5060879

    What other pacers are there?
    Training pace is way slower than racing pace. While you should take it easy at the beginning of the race, you don't want to go too slow either. 35 seconds slower than training pace just seems quite a bit conservative.

    Also, if there is a lot of people, the beginning couple of miles will be slow anyway since it takes time for the lead runners to break away enough to relieve congestion caused in the middle and back of the pack.

    2:20:00 = 10:41/mi pace

    Is there a 2:15 pace group? That's a 10:18 pace. You are still 12 seconds slower than training pace.


    Just a thought.


  • louubelle16
    louubelle16 Posts: 579 Member
    Orphia wrote: »
    @louubelle16 So pleased you're going to get the tests done! I sort of thought the doctor might have wanted you to gain the 4-5 lbs your profile says you're aiming for, but he's not really addressing the current situation. Kudos.

    I really ought to update that, I've gained those pounds easily since I've taken up running regularly and have the appetite of a lion :lol: But that's a good point, I bet they still throw that "you're not eating enough" BS at me, something I've had all my life. My mum even ended up under social services surveillance when I was a baby because they thought she was starving me on purpose to have a thin baby. At least I can throw my MFP diary down on the table as some evidence.

    Anyway, I'll let you all know how it goes next week :)

    Oh, and well done on your HM @Orphia!

    @MNLittleFinn I have to agree with everyone else about you needing to chill. I'm really worried you're going to over think this and ruin the experience for yourself. Your first HM is an incredible experience, one you'll never forget, but with all this over-thought and pressure you're putting on yourself to do well, I'm just worried you'll ruin it for yourself and miss out on that great feeling. Just go out there and enjoy it - sod times, strategies etc, just go out there and do it. You have your whole running life ahead of you for all that techy stuff.

    I finally got out and did a run that didn't make me feel sick or dizzy! I had a snack and a pint of water an hour before I ran to see if that helped and it seemed to. Although, it is about 10 Celsius cooler here right now than it was last week, so it's hardly conclusive data right now. I'll keep on with that strategy though. It can't do any harm!

    2nd June - 3.53 miles
    4th June - 3.41 miles
    5th June - 7.12 miles
    7th June - 3.33 miles
    9th June - unplanned rest day (non-running related injury)
    11th June - 3.56 miles 5km PB 26:09
    13th June - 8.52 miles
    15th June - 4.08 miles
    17th June - 3.04 miles
    19th June - 6.06 miles
    21st June - 6.04 miles
    22nd-25th June - in a funk
    26th June - 4.01 miles
    28th June - 3.60 miles

    MTD - 55.30/80 miles

    Upcoming races:
    18th Sept - Run Reigate Half Marathon
    2nd Oct - Tonbridge Half Marathon
    30th Oct - River Thames Half Marathon
    9th April 2017 - Brighton Marathon
  • AdrianChr92
    AdrianChr92 Posts: 567 Member
    edited June 2016
    Ha I only had 4 rest days this month since I will run tomorrow but I think I'll make it short and slowwww and take a rest day on Thursday. Funny cause I'm feeling quite fine

    Today also went to the gym to try something. They say to hit leg day and workouts together so you have time to recover so went and did 5x5 squats and 2x5 deadlifts then some tempo intervals (totaling about 20 min or so). Then I did the ice bath thing again. It was always my goal to run as much as possible and I think I'll advance to 7/7 days of running at one point (1 year or so). Oh and I need to take this out of my tempo playlist, It makes me sprint when this part hits
    https://youtu.be/7LuSP4QaXiQ?t=1m15s


    @MNLittleFinn You remind me when I had my first 10k race. I planned a conservative 5:20 min/km and went out with the crowd at 4:40. Somehow I managed 4:40 across all 10k and blowing my 55 min out of the water with a 48 min 10k. Start slower than your race pace but not too much. You don't want to recover too much time at the end. My advice would be start the first km (till 5) slower by 10-20 seconds/km then accelerate to your pace then you see how you feel on the last few km. If everything is right you should be able to accelerate a bit and run quite fast on the last 2. But if you have pacers use them. They should have pacers at regular time zones.



    Date.....Distance..Avg hr/Pace/km
    June 1 - 6.1 km - 156/5:47
    June 2 - 5.5 km - 154/6:00
    June 3 - 5.0 km - 153/6:12
    June 4 - 7.0 km - 184/4:25
    June 5 - 6.0 km - 143/6:27
    June 6 - rest
    June 7 - 6.0 km - 143/6:13
    June 8 - 6.8 km - 148/6:11 (Hot)
    June 9 - 5.8 km - 150/5:58
    June 10 - rest
    June 11 - 5.0 km - 184/4:26
    June 12 - 6.0 km - 149/6:05
    June 13 - rest
    June 14 - 7.6 km - 149/6:08
    June 15 - 6.0 km - 150/6:03
    June 16 - 6.0 km - 150/6:12
    June 17 - 7.0 km - 152/6:21 (Hell)
    June 18 - 5.8 km - 150/Slow, I didn't care
    June 19 - 11.0km - 155/6:06 (Easy hell)
    June 20 - rest
    June 21 - 7.0 km - 178/4.37 (tempo)
    June 22 - 6.0 km - 155/6:06
    June 23 - 6.6 km - 152/6:06
    June 24 - 7.0 km - 155/5:54
    June 25 - 6.0 km - 137/8:30
    June 26 - 10.5km - 147/6:11
    June 27 - 6.0 km - ???/7:40
    June 28 - 8.0 km - 175/4:44 (tempo)

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    03/04: Bucharest 10k and Family run 48:28
    16/04: Color Run Bucharest
    17/04: Forest Run 5k 22:05
    04/06: Happy Run 5k 21:57
  • WhatMeRunning
    WhatMeRunning Posts: 3,538 Member
    @MNLittleFinn - Run it purely by feel. You know what you are capable of from your training, so make sure you get to that finish line. Once this one is done you can work on racing the next one. This one is just to check off the HM box on the bucket list. :smile:
  • MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn Posts: 4,271 Member
    @Stoshew71
    Here are the official pace groups:

    1:30
    1:40
    1:50
    1:55
    2:00
    2:00
    2:05
    2:10
    2:20
    2:30
    2:40
    3:00

    This is, literally the only reason I'm thinking about this, there's no pace group that fits my pace. 2:10 is faster than I think I can do, but 2:20 seems too slow. if there was a 2:15 pacer, I'd be golden, and after starting out my 10k too fast I don't want to repeat that mistake again.

    @louubelle16 is it sad that this isn't me over thinking something? This is my normal thinking speed/intensity...LOL
    @WhatMeRunning Only reason I'm concerned about just going by feel is that I usually feel great....going way too fast in the first few miles.......

    Thanks for the help guys. and, no worries, I do this stuff for FUN.....for me the analysis is just a fun thing to do, and then when it comes time for running, I normally throw it all out the window and zen run like @PoppetsMaster
  • DayLi77
    DayLi77 Posts: 655 Member
    @ceciliaslater Yay for you to get back to a fitness class! Modified or not, that's excellent progress!
    @juliet3455 Yes, if I ever try a triathlon I will DEFINITELY start with the sprint distance! Every time I watch my bf in action I think maybe I should give it a try...but that's as far as I get LOL
  • RespectTheKitty
    RespectTheKitty Posts: 1,667 Member
    Depression sucks. Used to be running would alleviate the bad moods, but it's not working so well anymore. The depression has adapted, as it always does. Not going to stop running though; it's the only thing that makes me happy anymore. But I may have to add something else to the regime, to fool the depression.

    Sorry to be so glum. Like I said, depression sucks. Still, I got a mile into my walk today. I like doing that on my off days, throwing in one running mile into a walk. It makes me feel like I'm running every day, but it doesn't tear up my legs.


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  • RespectTheKitty
    RespectTheKitty Posts: 1,667 Member
    Of course, now I have to start thinking about my July goals...
  • MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn Posts: 4,271 Member
    RespectTheKitty wrote: »
    Of course, now I have to start thinking about my July goals...

    My July goal is the Brooks running motto Run Happy. I hope you can get your groove and the endorphins from running help with your depression again!
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    @ddmom0811 Spectacular view!
  • Stoshew71
    Stoshew71 Posts: 6,553 Member
    Date Miles today. Miles for June
    6/1 5 miles - 5 << Another recovery run.
    6/2 6.5 miles - 11.5
    6/3 REST DAY (unplanned but necessary)
    6/4 13.5 miles - 25
    6/5 REST DAY
    6/6 8 miles 33
    6/6 4 miles 37 << Daily Double
    6/7 9 miles 46
    6/7 5 miles 51 << Daily Double
    6/8 6.2 miles 57.2
    6/9 9 miles 66.2
    6/10 6.2 miles 72.4
    6/11 18 miles 90.4
    6/12 REST DAY
    6/13 9 miles 99.4
    6/13 4 miles 103.4 << Daily Double
    6/14 9 miles 112.4
    6/14 4 miles 116.4 << Daily Double
    6/15 6.2 miles 122.6
    6/16 9 miles 131.6
    6/16 5 miles 136.6 << Daily Double FF Pub Run at Yellowhammer
    6/17 6.2 miles 142.8
    6/18 18 miles 160.8
    6/19 REST DAY
    6/20 9 miles 169.8
    6/20 4 miles 173.8 << Daily Double
    6/21 9 miles 182.8
    6/21 4 miles 186.8 << Daily Double
    6/22 5 miles 191.8
    6/23 5.5 miles 197.3
    6/24 3.1 miles 200.4
    6/25 11.1 miles 211.5
    6/26 REST DAY
    6/27 9 miles 220.5
    6/27 4 miles - 224.5 << Daily Double
    6/28 9 miles - 233.5
    6/28 4 miles - 237.5 << Daily Double

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    Upcoming races:
    UAH 8K - 3/6 <<< 34:33 3 in AG
    Oak Barrel HM - 4/2 <<<< 1:38:00 3 in AG
    Bridge Street HM - 4/10 <<< 1:36:33 3 in AG
    PEO-AVN Team Day 5K - 5/4 <<< 19:10 (2.9 mi) 1 in AG 5 OA
    Cotton Row Run 10K - 5/30 << 44:57 PR
    Firecracker Chase 10.2 miler 6/25 << 1:20:22 1 in AG & 15 OA
    Rocket City Marathon - 12/10


    Afternoon run with my wife. Well kinda. We started together but then I kinda left her in the dust despite me running it easy. So I just made a turn and extended my run so that by the time I got done, I was able to walk with her during her last mile and a half.
  • 9voice9
    9voice9 Posts: 693 Member
    skippygirlsmom wrote: »
    @MNlittlefinn here's all my advice for your race.

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    Love this!
  • JessicaMcB
    JessicaMcB Posts: 1,503 Member
    @ddmom0811 I'm glad you enjoyed Banff, its gorgeous! We're a ways north in Edson- I'd say your trail running would've been a lot more fun, I hope it ended at Welch's candy store ;)

    Exceeded my June goal of 30 miles on my crap knees, really pleased :) . Debating bumping to 40 or 50 for July and you know...converting that to kilometers because I can't math haha!

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  • greenolivetree
    greenolivetree Posts: 1,282 Member
    @jessicamcb Great job and don't stress about miles vs km :) I can only understand km in 5's.

    @RespectTheKitty Hang in there. You're very strong to keep running.
  • HonuNui
    HonuNui Posts: 1,464 Member
    June goal.....run

    6/1 rest
    6/2 3.59
    6/3 dog nursing
    6/4 worked unplanned, unexpected overtime. crap.
    6/5 5.39
    6/6 dog nursing....DH was longingly looking at his weedwhacker. I spelled him to go whack off.
    6/7 5.31
    6/8 3.60
    6/9 3.12
    6/10 gave DH a nursing break
    6/11 8.32
    6/12 3.71
    6/13 3.38
    6/14 4.41 snuck out of work and ran in the rain.....so I can dognurse/give DH a break when I get home. 3 weeks till he's allowed off leash.....
    6/15 3.11
    6/16 4.19
    6/17 3.30
    6/18 rest
    6/19 4.23
    6/20 snorkel 2.5 hours
    6/21 5.00
    6/22 4.17
    6/23 3.19
    6/24 rest
    6/25 4.56
    6/26 5.00
    6/27 meh
    6/28 3.85
    Total 82.05

    Upcoming races:
    SHEPower Virtual Half: sometime in June or July......when dog needs less nursing
    Las Vegas RocknRoll Half 11/13/16

    Ticker is my goal for 2016 and accumulation to date:
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  • MobyCarp
    MobyCarp Posts: 2,927 Member
    June Running Totals (miles)
    6/1 – rest day
    6/2 – 6.11 easy
    6/3 – rest day
    6/4 – 7.21 easy with hills
    6/5 – 7.42 easy
    6/6 – rest day
    6/7 – 8.56 easy
    6/8 – rest day
    6/9 – 8.01 easy
    6/10 – rest day
    6/11 – 10.09 with hills and humidity
    6/12 – 6.21 easy with 1 stride
    6/13 – rest day
    6/14 – run squeezed out of schedule
    6/15 – rest day 7.00 group run
    6/16 – 4.02 in 3 pieces
    6/17 – rest day
    6/18 – 4.83 aborted pace run
    6/19 – 8.27 hot and humid
    6/20 – rest day
    6/21 – 7.18 warmup, speed work, cool down
    6/22 – rest day
    6/23 – 9.46 easy
    6/24 – rest day
    6/25 – 10.22 pace group run
    6/26 – 6.01 easy
    6/27 – rest day
    6/28 – 8.70 warmup, tempo intervals, cool down

    June total to date – 119.30

    Nominal Challenge Goal – 100 miles
    Real Goals: Recover from injury to the point where running feels normal again. Stretch goal, recover to the point where I can run at race pace.

    Today's notes – There is progress. This evening the warmup was close to 2.3 miles, then I set out for the tempo work: 1.5 miles easy, 2 x 1.5 miles at T pace with 3 minutes recovery, and it was only 1.4 miles back to base. 2 x 1.5 miles at T was about all I could handle today, and it's all the speed work I'm going to do this week. But I am feeling good enough to go back to running 5 days a week. I hope to have time to get to a group run tomorrow evening.

    Don't know what I'll be good for in July, but it should be more miles than June. Maybe put a goal of 150 out there and really expect to beat it. The interesting thing will be how Shoreline and Rochester Marathon come in, after working more to come back from injury than on actually training for the races. Coach just reminded me that Shoreline is 2 weeks from Saturday. I expect I'll be able to go the distance, and I need to manage my thinking about how fast I'll go the distance.

    2016 races:
    January 1, 2016 Resolution Run 7.5 mile (Mendon, NY) finished in 53:58
    January 9, 2016 Winter Warrior Half Marathon (Gates, NY) finished in 1:30:59
    March 12, 2016 Johnny's Runnin' of the Green 5 mile (Rochester, NY) finished in 32:32
    March 26, 2016 Spring Forward Distance Run 15K (Mendon, NY) finished in 1:05:24
    April 18, 2016 Boston Marathon (Hopkinton, MA) finished in 3:23:01
    April 24, 2016 Flower City Challenge Half Marathon (Rochester, NY) finished in 1:36:50, targeting MP
    May 15, 2016 Highland Hospital Lilac Run 10K (Rochester, NY) DNS - injury
    June 19, 2016 Medved 5K to Cure ALS (Rochester, NY) DNS - recovering from face plant
    July 16, 2016 Shoreline Half Marathon (Hamlin, NY)
    September 18, 2016 Rochester Marathon (Rochester, NY)
    November 24, 2016 Race with Grace 10K (Hilton, NY)

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