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Sophisticatted_Gentlemanz wrote: »
Because i dont think most have a clue what its really like to live with minimal creature comforts, and or space.
I’d agree with you there. But what is minimalism to you? I don’t see it as the act of striving to have as little as possible just for the sake of having as little as possible
Then what would it be? If you claim to be a minimalist i would think the very definition would be one that strives to have the minimum. Otherwise i dont think the title of minimalist woud apply.
Well, as is the case with many things, it’s subjective. I’m a minimalist. I have been my whole life. It doesn’t have all that much to do with the number of items I own. It has to do with how I relate to it. And in short, I don’t want it unless it’s useful or makes me happy. Stuff, especially in excess, greatly impacts my anxiety levels. Therefore, having less of it makes me a happier person
Subjective? So you may very well be a minimalist....but with your line of thinking could a very wealthy person have the same mindset of only acquiring things that made them happy like Rolls Royce cars and helicopters? If they could own dozens of each but only chose one of each, are they minimalist? Does a minimalist like yourself relate to someone that could own 10 multi million dollar mansions only owning one?
Sure. It’s a mindset. You don’t default to being a minimalist based on what you can afford. It’s not about restricting yourself either, imo. You can be a minimalist but still have hobbies or interests for which you accumulate things.
This is a completely unrelated example that I hope will illustrate my point: people have varying definitions of being content. Each person defines it their own way. If someone says they’re content, who’s to argue with them? I mean what would be the point?
I get what you’re saying. It seems a little brazen to call oneself a minimalist without knowing what it’s like to be unable to own much. But that’s like someone who can’t have kids being cynical that someone could claim to be content who doesn’t have kids or want kids.
Anyway, I was just interested to hear your take. Please don’t take any of this in a combative tone. I enjoy hearing your thoughts on things
I will also say, i do not think as many things are subjective as we like to think.
I know this about you already because we have had a discussion about it before 😉
I, on the other hand, believe most everything to be subjective. (Emphasis on believe)
For example (and this is what we discussed before), what’s the tallest mountain on the earth? Seems like a straightforward question, but my answer would be.. it depends on your parameters. Define ‘tallest’. Above sea level? Height from base to tip? Including or excluding underwater? From the center of the earth? (Because a mountain at the equator will be further from the center of the earth than one at the poles due to the earth not being a perfect sphere)
I adore my parents but they raised me to see everything in black and white terms and I don’t know if it backfired or I rebelled but I have literally never been able to take things at face value. I’m constantly made aware of how things could be viewed differently depending on the viewpoint. I’m the world’s WORST to watch a movie with or tell a joke to because I need to consider all possible scenarios. I frequently wrote page-long essays on test questions explaining why the question could be interpreted in a couple of different ways and I needed to address them all.
It’s hard to explain but to talk to me at length about something/anything is to hear me repeatedly ask for clarification so we’re on the same page, because nothing seems like a given. It’s extremely annoying actually. I don’t know why it’s so hard to simply understand what people mean
That’s pretty hot
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I promise this is unironic 🤦🏼♀️
don’t get which part could possibly be hot 😅4 -
Because i dont think most have a clue what its really like to live with minimal creature comforts, and or space.
I’d agree with you there. But what is minimalism to you? I don’t see it as the act of striving to have as little as possible just for the sake of having as little as possible
Then what would it be? If you claim to be a minimalist i would think the very definition would be one that strives to have the minimum. Otherwise i dont think the title of minimalist woud apply.
Well, as is the case with many things, it’s subjective. I’m a minimalist. I have been my whole life. It doesn’t have all that much to do with the number of items I own. It has to do with how I relate to it. And in short, I don’t want it unless it’s useful or makes me happy. Stuff, especially in excess, greatly impacts my anxiety levels. Therefore, having less of it makes me a happier person
Subjective? So you may very well be a minimalist....but with your line of thinking could a very wealthy person have the same mindset of only acquiring things that made them happy like Rolls Royce cars and helicopters? If they could own dozens of each but only chose one of each, are they minimalist? Does a minimalist like yourself relate to someone that could own 10 multi million dollar mansions only owning one?
Sure. It’s a mindset. You don’t default to being a minimalist based on what you can afford. It’s not about restricting yourself either, imo. You can be a minimalist but still have hobbies or interests for which you accumulate things.
This is a completely unrelated example that I hope will illustrate my point: people have varying definitions of being content. Each person defines it their own way. If someone says they’re content, who’s to argue with them? I mean what would be the point?
I get what you’re saying. It seems a little brazen to call oneself a minimalist without knowing what it’s like to be unable to own much. But that’s like someone who can’t have kids being cynical that someone could claim to be content who doesn’t have kids or want kids.
Anyway, I was just interested to hear your take. Please don’t take any of this in a combative tone. I enjoy hearing your thoughts on things
I will also say, i do not think as many things are subjective as we like to think.
For example (and this is what we discussed before), what’s the tallest mountain on the earth? Seems like a straightforward question, but my answer would be.. it depends on your parameters. Define ‘tallest’. Above sea level? Height from base to tip? Including or excluding underwater? From the center of the earth?
I'm going to start writing my penis length as tip to sea level I think. Maybe I'll move to Denver.4 -
Because i dont think most have a clue what its really like to live with minimal creature comforts, and or space.
I’d agree with you there. But what is minimalism to you? I don’t see it as the act of striving to have as little as possible just for the sake of having as little as possible
Then what would it be? If you claim to be a minimalist i would think the very definition would be one that strives to have the minimum. Otherwise i dont think the title of minimalist woud apply.
Well, as is the case with many things, it’s subjective. I’m a minimalist. I have been my whole life. It doesn’t have all that much to do with the number of items I own. It has to do with how I relate to it. And in short, I don’t want it unless it’s useful or makes me happy. Stuff, especially in excess, greatly impacts my anxiety levels. Therefore, having less of it makes me a happier person
Subjective? So you may very well be a minimalist....but with your line of thinking could a very wealthy person have the same mindset of only acquiring things that made them happy like Rolls Royce cars and helicopters? If they could own dozens of each but only chose one of each, are they minimalist? Does a minimalist like yourself relate to someone that could own 10 multi million dollar mansions only owning one?
Sure. It’s a mindset. You don’t default to being a minimalist based on what you can afford. It’s not about restricting yourself either, imo. You can be a minimalist but still have hobbies or interests for which you accumulate things.
This is a completely unrelated example that I hope will illustrate my point: people have varying definitions of being content. Each person defines it their own way. If someone says they’re content, who’s to argue with them? I mean what would be the point?
I get what you’re saying. It seems a little brazen to call oneself a minimalist without knowing what it’s like to be unable to own much. But that’s like someone who can’t have kids being cynical that someone could claim to be content who doesn’t have kids or want kids.
Anyway, I was just interested to hear your take. Please don’t take any of this in a combative tone. I enjoy hearing your thoughts on things
I will also say, i do not think as many things are subjective as we like to think.
I know this about you already because we have had a discussion about it before 😉
I, on the other hand, believe most everything to be subjective. (Emphasis on believe)
For example (and this is what we discussed before), what’s the tallest mountain on the earth? Seems like a straightforward question, but my answer would be.. it depends on your parameters. Define ‘tallest’. Above sea level? Height from base to tip? Including or excluding underwater? From the center of the earth? (Because a mountain at the equator will be further from the center of the earth than one at the poles due to the earth not being a perfect sphere)
I adore my parents but they raised me to see everything in black and white terms and I don’t know if it backfired or I rebelled but I have literally never been able to take things at face value. I’m constantly made aware of how things could be viewed differently depending on the viewpoint. I’m the world’s WORST to watch a movie with or tell a joke to because I need to consider all possible scenarios. I frequently wrote page-long essays on test questions explaining why the question could be interpreted in a couple of different ways and I needed to address them all.
It’s hard to explain but to talk to me at length about something/anything is to hear me repeatedly ask for clarification so we’re on the same page, because nothing seems like a given. It’s extremely annoying actually. I don’t know why it’s so hard to simply understand what people mean
I feel like you may be my spirit animal. Or twin. ❤️3 -
stevehenderson776 wrote: »
Because i dont think most have a clue what its really like to live with minimal creature comforts, and or space.
I’d agree with you there. But what is minimalism to you? I don’t see it as the act of striving to have as little as possible just for the sake of having as little as possible
Then what would it be? If you claim to be a minimalist i would think the very definition would be one that strives to have the minimum. Otherwise i dont think the title of minimalist woud apply.
Well, as is the case with many things, it’s subjective. I’m a minimalist. I have been my whole life. It doesn’t have all that much to do with the number of items I own. It has to do with how I relate to it. And in short, I don’t want it unless it’s useful or makes me happy. Stuff, especially in excess, greatly impacts my anxiety levels. Therefore, having less of it makes me a happier person
Subjective? So you may very well be a minimalist....but with your line of thinking could a very wealthy person have the same mindset of only acquiring things that made them happy like Rolls Royce cars and helicopters? If they could own dozens of each but only chose one of each, are they minimalist? Does a minimalist like yourself relate to someone that could own 10 multi million dollar mansions only owning one?
Sure. It’s a mindset. You don’t default to being a minimalist based on what you can afford. It’s not about restricting yourself either, imo. You can be a minimalist but still have hobbies or interests for which you accumulate things.
This is a completely unrelated example that I hope will illustrate my point: people have varying definitions of being content. Each person defines it their own way. If someone says they’re content, who’s to argue with them? I mean what would be the point?
I get what you’re saying. It seems a little brazen to call oneself a minimalist without knowing what it’s like to be unable to own much. But that’s like someone who can’t have kids being cynical that someone could claim to be content who doesn’t have kids or want kids.
Anyway, I was just interested to hear your take. Please don’t take any of this in a combative tone. I enjoy hearing your thoughts on things
I will also say, i do not think as many things are subjective as we like to think.
For example (and this is what we discussed before), what’s the tallest mountain on the earth? Seems like a straightforward question, but my answer would be.. it depends on your parameters. Define ‘tallest’. Above sea level? Height from base to tip? Including or excluding underwater? From the center of the earth?
I'm going to start writing my penis length as tip to sea level I think. Maybe I'll move to Denver.
My god you’re a genius!0 -
KickassAmazon76 wrote: »
Because i dont think most have a clue what its really like to live with minimal creature comforts, and or space.
I’d agree with you there. But what is minimalism to you? I don’t see it as the act of striving to have as little as possible just for the sake of having as little as possible
Then what would it be? If you claim to be a minimalist i would think the very definition would be one that strives to have the minimum. Otherwise i dont think the title of minimalist woud apply.
Well, as is the case with many things, it’s subjective. I’m a minimalist. I have been my whole life. It doesn’t have all that much to do with the number of items I own. It has to do with how I relate to it. And in short, I don’t want it unless it’s useful or makes me happy. Stuff, especially in excess, greatly impacts my anxiety levels. Therefore, having less of it makes me a happier person
Subjective? So you may very well be a minimalist....but with your line of thinking could a very wealthy person have the same mindset of only acquiring things that made them happy like Rolls Royce cars and helicopters? If they could own dozens of each but only chose one of each, are they minimalist? Does a minimalist like yourself relate to someone that could own 10 multi million dollar mansions only owning one?
Sure. It’s a mindset. You don’t default to being a minimalist based on what you can afford. It’s not about restricting yourself either, imo. You can be a minimalist but still have hobbies or interests for which you accumulate things.
This is a completely unrelated example that I hope will illustrate my point: people have varying definitions of being content. Each person defines it their own way. If someone says they’re content, who’s to argue with them? I mean what would be the point?
I get what you’re saying. It seems a little brazen to call oneself a minimalist without knowing what it’s like to be unable to own much. But that’s like someone who can’t have kids being cynical that someone could claim to be content who doesn’t have kids or want kids.
Anyway, I was just interested to hear your take. Please don’t take any of this in a combative tone. I enjoy hearing your thoughts on things
I will also say, i do not think as many things are subjective as we like to think.
I know this about you already because we have had a discussion about it before 😉
I, on the other hand, believe most everything to be subjective. (Emphasis on believe)
For example (and this is what we discussed before), what’s the tallest mountain on the earth? Seems like a straightforward question, but my answer would be.. it depends on your parameters. Define ‘tallest’. Above sea level? Height from base to tip? Including or excluding underwater? From the center of the earth? (Because a mountain at the equator will be further from the center of the earth than one at the poles due to the earth not being a perfect sphere)
I adore my parents but they raised me to see everything in black and white terms and I don’t know if it backfired or I rebelled but I have literally never been able to take things at face value. I’m constantly made aware of how things could be viewed differently depending on the viewpoint. I’m the world’s WORST to watch a movie with or tell a joke to because I need to consider all possible scenarios. I frequently wrote page-long essays on test questions explaining why the question could be interpreted in a couple of different ways and I needed to address them all.
It’s hard to explain but to talk to me at length about something/anything is to hear me repeatedly ask for clarification so we’re on the same page, because nothing seems like a given. It’s extremely annoying actually. I don’t know why it’s so hard to simply understand what people mean
I feel like you may be my spirit animal. Or twin. ❤️
So you get it? Because feeling understood is a great feeling 😌0 -
Because i dont think most have a clue what its really like to live with minimal creature comforts, and or space.
I’d agree with you there. But what is minimalism to you? I don’t see it as the act of striving to have as little as possible just for the sake of having as little as possible
Then what would it be? If you claim to be a minimalist i would think the very definition would be one that strives to have the minimum. Otherwise i dont think the title of minimalist woud apply.
Well, as is the case with many things, it’s subjective. I’m a minimalist. I have been my whole life. It doesn’t have all that much to do with the number of items I own. It has to do with how I relate to it. And in short, I don’t want it unless it’s useful or makes me happy. Stuff, especially in excess, greatly impacts my anxiety levels. Therefore, having less of it makes me a happier person
Subjective? So you may very well be a minimalist....but with your line of thinking could a very wealthy person have the same mindset of only acquiring things that made them happy like Rolls Royce cars and helicopters? If they could own dozens of each but only chose one of each, are they minimalist? Does a minimalist like yourself relate to someone that could own 10 multi million dollar mansions only owning one?
Sure. It’s a mindset. You don’t default to being a minimalist based on what you can afford. It’s not about restricting yourself either, imo. You can be a minimalist but still have hobbies or interests for which you accumulate things.
This is a completely unrelated example that I hope will illustrate my point: people have varying definitions of being content. Each person defines it their own way. If someone says they’re content, who’s to argue with them? I mean what would be the point?
I get what you’re saying. It seems a little brazen to call oneself a minimalist without knowing what it’s like to be unable to own much. But that’s like someone who can’t have kids being cynical that someone could claim to be content who doesn’t have kids or want kids.
Anyway, I was just interested to hear your take. Please don’t take any of this in a combative tone. I enjoy hearing your thoughts on things
I will also say, i do not think as many things are subjective as we like to think.
I know this about you already because we have had a discussion about it before 😉
I, on the other hand, believe most everything to be subjective. (Emphasis on believe)
For example (and this is what we discussed before), what’s the tallest mountain on the earth? Seems like a straightforward question, but my answer would be.. it depends on your parameters. Define ‘tallest’. Above sea level? Height from base to tip? Including or excluding underwater? From the center of the earth? (Because a mountain at the equator will be further from the center of the earth than one at the poles due to the earth not being a perfect sphere)
I adore my parents but they raised me to see everything in black and white terms and I don’t know if it backfired or I rebelled but I have literally never been able to take things at face value. I’m constantly made aware of how things could be viewed differently depending on the viewpoint. I’m the world’s WORST to watch a movie with or tell a joke to because I need to consider all possible scenarios. I frequently wrote page-long essays on test questions explaining why the question could be interpreted in a couple of different ways and I needed to address them all.
It’s hard to explain but to talk to me at length about something/anything is to hear me repeatedly ask for clarification so we’re on the same page, because nothing seems like a given. It’s extremely annoying actually. I don’t know why it’s so hard to simply understand what people mean
This is the exactly what i feel leads to paralysis by analysis syndrome. Nothing is a given, but sometimes people will ask questions until they finally get an answer along the lines of their own thinking. Jump out of an airplane....with a parachute of course 😉.....the question when you jump is will i live or will i die. There will be nothing else to question. Your answer will be given when you land. Primal fear, and decision making is a cure for what ails you. 😉3 -
Because i dont think most have a clue what its really like to live with minimal creature comforts, and or space.
I’d agree with you there. But what is minimalism to you? I don’t see it as the act of striving to have as little as possible just for the sake of having as little as possible
Then what would it be? If you claim to be a minimalist i would think the very definition would be one that strives to have the minimum. Otherwise i dont think the title of minimalist woud apply.
Well, as is the case with many things, it’s subjective. I’m a minimalist. I have been my whole life. It doesn’t have all that much to do with the number of items I own. It has to do with how I relate to it. And in short, I don’t want it unless it’s useful or makes me happy. Stuff, especially in excess, greatly impacts my anxiety levels. Therefore, having less of it makes me a happier person
Subjective? So you may very well be a minimalist....but with your line of thinking could a very wealthy person have the same mindset of only acquiring things that made them happy like Rolls Royce cars and helicopters? If they could own dozens of each but only chose one of each, are they minimalist? Does a minimalist like yourself relate to someone that could own 10 multi million dollar mansions only owning one?
Sure. It’s a mindset. You don’t default to being a minimalist based on what you can afford. It’s not about restricting yourself either, imo. You can be a minimalist but still have hobbies or interests for which you accumulate things.
This is a completely unrelated example that I hope will illustrate my point: people have varying definitions of being content. Each person defines it their own way. If someone says they’re content, who’s to argue with them? I mean what would be the point?
I get what you’re saying. It seems a little brazen to call oneself a minimalist without knowing what it’s like to be unable to own much. But that’s like someone who can’t have kids being cynical that someone could claim to be content who doesn’t have kids or want kids.
Anyway, I was just interested to hear your take. Please don’t take any of this in a combative tone. I enjoy hearing your thoughts on things
I will also say, i do not think as many things are subjective as we like to think.
I know this about you already because we have had a discussion about it before 😉
I, on the other hand, believe most everything to be subjective. (Emphasis on believe)
For example (and this is what we discussed before), what’s the tallest mountain on the earth? Seems like a straightforward question, but my answer would be.. it depends on your parameters. Define ‘tallest’. Above sea level? Height from base to tip? Including or excluding underwater? From the center of the earth? (Because a mountain at the equator will be further from the center of the earth than one at the poles due to the earth not being a perfect sphere)
I adore my parents but they raised me to see everything in black and white terms and I don’t know if it backfired or I rebelled but I have literally never been able to take things at face value. I’m constantly made aware of how things could be viewed differently depending on the viewpoint. I’m the world’s WORST to watch a movie with or tell a joke to because I need to consider all possible scenarios. I frequently wrote page-long essays on test questions explaining why the question could be interpreted in a couple of different ways and I needed to address them all.
It’s hard to explain but to talk to me at length about something/anything is to hear me repeatedly ask for clarification so we’re on the same page, because nothing seems like a given. It’s extremely annoying actually. I don’t know why it’s so hard to simply understand what people mean
This is the exactly what i feel leads to paralysis by analysis syndrome. Nothing is a given, but sometimes people will ask questions until they finally get an answer along the lines of their own thinking. Jump out of an airplane....with a parachute of course 😉.....the question when you jump is will i live or will i die. There will be nothing else to question. Your answer will be given when you land. Primal fear, and decision making is a cure for what ails you. 😉
You’re absolutely right. Analysis paralysis and the ensuing anxiety have crippled me my whole adult life4 -
Because i dont think most have a clue what its really like to live with minimal creature comforts, and or space.
I’d agree with you there. But what is minimalism to you? I don’t see it as the act of striving to have as little as possible just for the sake of having as little as possible
Then what would it be? If you claim to be a minimalist i would think the very definition would be one that strives to have the minimum. Otherwise i dont think the title of minimalist woud apply.
Well, as is the case with many things, it’s subjective. I’m a minimalist. I have been my whole life. It doesn’t have all that much to do with the number of items I own. It has to do with how I relate to it. And in short, I don’t want it unless it’s useful or makes me happy. Stuff, especially in excess, greatly impacts my anxiety levels. Therefore, having less of it makes me a happier person
Subjective? So you may very well be a minimalist....but with your line of thinking could a very wealthy person have the same mindset of only acquiring things that made them happy like Rolls Royce cars and helicopters? If they could own dozens of each but only chose one of each, are they minimalist? Does a minimalist like yourself relate to someone that could own 10 multi million dollar mansions only owning one?
Sure. It’s a mindset. You don’t default to being a minimalist based on what you can afford. It’s not about restricting yourself either, imo. You can be a minimalist but still have hobbies or interests for which you accumulate things.
This is a completely unrelated example that I hope will illustrate my point: people have varying definitions of being content. Each person defines it their own way. If someone says they’re content, who’s to argue with them? I mean what would be the point?
I get what you’re saying. It seems a little brazen to call oneself a minimalist without knowing what it’s like to be unable to own much. But that’s like someone who can’t have kids being cynical that someone could claim to be content who doesn’t have kids or want kids.
Anyway, I was just interested to hear your take. Please don’t take any of this in a combative tone. I enjoy hearing your thoughts on things
I will also say, i do not think as many things are subjective as we like to think.
I know this about you already because we have had a discussion about it before 😉
I, on the other hand, believe most everything to be subjective. (Emphasis on believe)
For example (and this is what we discussed before), what’s the tallest mountain on the earth? Seems like a straightforward question, but my answer would be.. it depends on your parameters. Define ‘tallest’. Above sea level? Height from base to tip? Including or excluding underwater? From the center of the earth? (Because a mountain at the equator will be further from the center of the earth than one at the poles due to the earth not being a perfect sphere)
I adore my parents but they raised me to see everything in black and white terms and I don’t know if it backfired or I rebelled but I have literally never been able to take things at face value. I’m constantly made aware of how things could be viewed differently depending on the viewpoint. I’m the world’s WORST to watch a movie with or tell a joke to because I need to consider all possible scenarios. I frequently wrote page-long essays on test questions explaining why the question could be interpreted in a couple of different ways and I needed to address them all.
It’s hard to explain but to talk to me at length about something/anything is to hear me repeatedly ask for clarification so we’re on the same page, because nothing seems like a given. It’s extremely annoying actually. I don’t know why it’s so hard to simply understand what people mean
I love your brain
I call myself a "fence dweller" b/c I see so many different angles - and can justify most even if it isn't my first thought.
Am def literal, to a fault I feel - like I have to look up words routinely
...understanding what people mean is not as simple as understanding the language, nuance, context, environment...and rando stuff
But betcha I'm worse to watch a movie with! - I have to take random breaks to like dust a table or fold or do more laundry
...and I'm usually (almost always a bit delayed) late to get a joke *too much thinking*4 -
Because i dont think most have a clue what its really like to live with minimal creature comforts, and or space.
I’d agree with you there. But what is minimalism to you? I don’t see it as the act of striving to have as little as possible just for the sake of having as little as possible
Then what would it be? If you claim to be a minimalist i would think the very definition would be one that strives to have the minimum. Otherwise i dont think the title of minimalist woud apply.
Well, as is the case with many things, it’s subjective. I’m a minimalist. I have been my whole life. It doesn’t have all that much to do with the number of items I own. It has to do with how I relate to it. And in short, I don’t want it unless it’s useful or makes me happy. Stuff, especially in excess, greatly impacts my anxiety levels. Therefore, having less of it makes me a happier person
Subjective? So you may very well be a minimalist....but with your line of thinking could a very wealthy person have the same mindset of only acquiring things that made them happy like Rolls Royce cars and helicopters? If they could own dozens of each but only chose one of each, are they minimalist? Does a minimalist like yourself relate to someone that could own 10 multi million dollar mansions only owning one?
Sure. It’s a mindset. You don’t default to being a minimalist based on what you can afford. It’s not about restricting yourself either, imo. You can be a minimalist but still have hobbies or interests for which you accumulate things.
This is a completely unrelated example that I hope will illustrate my point: people have varying definitions of being content. Each person defines it their own way. If someone says they’re content, who’s to argue with them? I mean what would be the point?
I get what you’re saying. It seems a little brazen to call oneself a minimalist without knowing what it’s like to be unable to own much. But that’s like someone who can’t have kids being cynical that someone could claim to be content who doesn’t have kids or want kids.
Anyway, I was just interested to hear your take. Please don’t take any of this in a combative tone. I enjoy hearing your thoughts on things
I will also say, i do not think as many things are subjective as we like to think.
I know this about you already because we have had a discussion about it before 😉
I, on the other hand, believe most everything to be subjective. (Emphasis on believe)
For example (and this is what we discussed before), what’s the tallest mountain on the earth? Seems like a straightforward question, but my answer would be.. it depends on your parameters. Define ‘tallest’. Above sea level? Height from base to tip? Including or excluding underwater? From the center of the earth? (Because a mountain at the equator will be further from the center of the earth than one at the poles due to the earth not being a perfect sphere)
I adore my parents but they raised me to see everything in black and white terms and I don’t know if it backfired or I rebelled but I have literally never been able to take things at face value. I’m constantly made aware of how things could be viewed differently depending on the viewpoint. I’m the world’s WORST to watch a movie with or tell a joke to because I need to consider all possible scenarios. I frequently wrote page-long essays on test questions explaining why the question could be interpreted in a couple of different ways and I needed to address them all.
It’s hard to explain but to talk to me at length about something/anything is to hear me repeatedly ask for clarification so we’re on the same page, because nothing seems like a given. It’s extremely annoying actually. I don’t know why it’s so hard to simply understand what people mean
I love your brain
I call myself a "fence dweller" b/c I see so many different angles - and can justify most even if it isn't my first thought.
Am def literal, to a fault I feel - like I have to look up words routinely
...understanding what people mean is not as simple as understanding the language, nuance, context, environment...and rando stuff
But betcha I'm worse to watch a movie with! - I have to take random breaks to like dust a table or fold or do more laundry
...and I'm usually (almost always a bit delayed) late to get a joke *too much thinking*
YES
To all of it, but especially the bolded. Very well said.
Last summer my cousin asked me if my parents had ever checked to see if I was on the spectrum. He asked specifically because of some telltale symptoms I had when I was little (rocking and rhythmic chanting to self-soothe, affinity for numbers, extreme social anxiety, sensory issues and others). I told him I didn’t think such things had ever been on my parents’ radar when I was young. Later my sister hissed to me “I can’t believe he asked you that, how rude!” I was extremely surprised by her reaction. To me it was a comforting thought to consider because it made so many little things from my childhood make sense. Like a solved puzzle.
Ultimately I know that if I am indeed on the spectrum, getting an official diagnosis would be irrelevant at this point. If I have aspergers or autism (maybe those are essentially the same?) it would be of the highly-functioning sort. Just the same, the idea has been like a warm hug of sorts. Maybe I do better with labels, I dunno6 -
KickassAmazon76 wrote: »
Because i dont think most have a clue what its really like to live with minimal creature comforts, and or space.
I’d agree with you there. But what is minimalism to you? I don’t see it as the act of striving to have as little as possible just for the sake of having as little as possible
Then what would it be? If you claim to be a minimalist i would think the very definition would be one that strives to have the minimum. Otherwise i dont think the title of minimalist woud apply.
Well, as is the case with many things, it’s subjective. I’m a minimalist. I have been my whole life. It doesn’t have all that much to do with the number of items I own. It has to do with how I relate to it. And in short, I don’t want it unless it’s useful or makes me happy. Stuff, especially in excess, greatly impacts my anxiety levels. Therefore, having less of it makes me a happier person
Subjective? So you may very well be a minimalist....but with your line of thinking could a very wealthy person have the same mindset of only acquiring things that made them happy like Rolls Royce cars and helicopters? If they could own dozens of each but only chose one of each, are they minimalist? Does a minimalist like yourself relate to someone that could own 10 multi million dollar mansions only owning one?
Sure. It’s a mindset. You don’t default to being a minimalist based on what you can afford. It’s not about restricting yourself either, imo. You can be a minimalist but still have hobbies or interests for which you accumulate things.
This is a completely unrelated example that I hope will illustrate my point: people have varying definitions of being content. Each person defines it their own way. If someone says they’re content, who’s to argue with them? I mean what would be the point?
I get what you’re saying. It seems a little brazen to call oneself a minimalist without knowing what it’s like to be unable to own much. But that’s like someone who can’t have kids being cynical that someone could claim to be content who doesn’t have kids or want kids.
Anyway, I was just interested to hear your take. Please don’t take any of this in a combative tone. I enjoy hearing your thoughts on things
I will also say, i do not think as many things are subjective as we like to think.
I know this about you already because we have had a discussion about it before 😉
I, on the other hand, believe most everything to be subjective. (Emphasis on believe)
For example (and this is what we discussed before), what’s the tallest mountain on the earth? Seems like a straightforward question, but my answer would be.. it depends on your parameters. Define ‘tallest’. Above sea level? Height from base to tip? Including or excluding underwater? From the center of the earth? (Because a mountain at the equator will be further from the center of the earth than one at the poles due to the earth not being a perfect sphere)
I adore my parents but they raised me to see everything in black and white terms and I don’t know if it backfired or I rebelled but I have literally never been able to take things at face value. I’m constantly made aware of how things could be viewed differently depending on the viewpoint. I’m the world’s WORST to watch a movie with or tell a joke to because I need to consider all possible scenarios. I frequently wrote page-long essays on test questions explaining why the question could be interpreted in a couple of different ways and I needed to address them all.
It’s hard to explain but to talk to me at length about something/anything is to hear me repeatedly ask for clarification so we’re on the same page, because nothing seems like a given. It’s extremely annoying actually. I don’t know why it’s so hard to simply understand what people mean
I feel like you may be my spirit animal. Or twin. ❤️
So you get it? Because feeling understood is a great feeling 😌
Oh God, I get it more than you realize. When you can see all sides, it's impossible and anxiety inducing trying to pick one.
When you can empathize and understand someone's motivations, even if you disagree with them, it can be impossible to stand your ground.
I test software for a living. My life is all about understanding and analyzing the permutations and combinations and trying to assess and mitigate the risk to each.3 -
KickassAmazon76 wrote: »KickassAmazon76 wrote: »
Because i dont think most have a clue what its really like to live with minimal creature comforts, and or space.
I’d agree with you there. But what is minimalism to you? I don’t see it as the act of striving to have as little as possible just for the sake of having as little as possible
Then what would it be? If you claim to be a minimalist i would think the very definition would be one that strives to have the minimum. Otherwise i dont think the title of minimalist woud apply.
Well, as is the case with many things, it’s subjective. I’m a minimalist. I have been my whole life. It doesn’t have all that much to do with the number of items I own. It has to do with how I relate to it. And in short, I don’t want it unless it’s useful or makes me happy. Stuff, especially in excess, greatly impacts my anxiety levels. Therefore, having less of it makes me a happier person
Subjective? So you may very well be a minimalist....but with your line of thinking could a very wealthy person have the same mindset of only acquiring things that made them happy like Rolls Royce cars and helicopters? If they could own dozens of each but only chose one of each, are they minimalist? Does a minimalist like yourself relate to someone that could own 10 multi million dollar mansions only owning one?
Sure. It’s a mindset. You don’t default to being a minimalist based on what you can afford. It’s not about restricting yourself either, imo. You can be a minimalist but still have hobbies or interests for which you accumulate things.
This is a completely unrelated example that I hope will illustrate my point: people have varying definitions of being content. Each person defines it their own way. If someone says they’re content, who’s to argue with them? I mean what would be the point?
I get what you’re saying. It seems a little brazen to call oneself a minimalist without knowing what it’s like to be unable to own much. But that’s like someone who can’t have kids being cynical that someone could claim to be content who doesn’t have kids or want kids.
Anyway, I was just interested to hear your take. Please don’t take any of this in a combative tone. I enjoy hearing your thoughts on things
I will also say, i do not think as many things are subjective as we like to think.
I know this about you already because we have had a discussion about it before 😉
I, on the other hand, believe most everything to be subjective. (Emphasis on believe)
For example (and this is what we discussed before), what’s the tallest mountain on the earth? Seems like a straightforward question, but my answer would be.. it depends on your parameters. Define ‘tallest’. Above sea level? Height from base to tip? Including or excluding underwater? From the center of the earth? (Because a mountain at the equator will be further from the center of the earth than one at the poles due to the earth not being a perfect sphere)
I adore my parents but they raised me to see everything in black and white terms and I don’t know if it backfired or I rebelled but I have literally never been able to take things at face value. I’m constantly made aware of how things could be viewed differently depending on the viewpoint. I’m the world’s WORST to watch a movie with or tell a joke to because I need to consider all possible scenarios. I frequently wrote page-long essays on test questions explaining why the question could be interpreted in a couple of different ways and I needed to address them all.
It’s hard to explain but to talk to me at length about something/anything is to hear me repeatedly ask for clarification so we’re on the same page, because nothing seems like a given. It’s extremely annoying actually. I don’t know why it’s so hard to simply understand what people mean
I feel like you may be my spirit animal. Or twin. ❤️
So you get it? Because feeling understood is a great feeling 😌
Oh God, I get it more than you realize. When you can see all sides, it's impossible and anxiety inducing trying to pick one.
When you can empathize and understand someone's motivations, even if you disagree with them, it can be impossible to stand your ground.
I test software for a living. My life is all about understanding and analyzing the permutations and combinations and trying to assess and mitigate the risk to each.
This makes me sweaty 😂4 -
Because i dont think most have a clue what its really like to live with minimal creature comforts, and or space.
I’d agree with you there. But what is minimalism to you? I don’t see it as the act of striving to have as little as possible just for the sake of having as little as possible
Then what would it be? If you claim to be a minimalist i would think the very definition would be one that strives to have the minimum. Otherwise i dont think the title of minimalist woud apply.
Well, as is the case with many things, it’s subjective. I’m a minimalist. I have been my whole life. It doesn’t have all that much to do with the number of items I own. It has to do with how I relate to it. And in short, I don’t want it unless it’s useful or makes me happy. Stuff, especially in excess, greatly impacts my anxiety levels. Therefore, having less of it makes me a happier person
Subjective? So you may very well be a minimalist....but with your line of thinking could a very wealthy person have the same mindset of only acquiring things that made them happy like Rolls Royce cars and helicopters? If they could own dozens of each but only chose one of each, are they minimalist? Does a minimalist like yourself relate to someone that could own 10 multi million dollar mansions only owning one?
Sure. It’s a mindset. You don’t default to being a minimalist based on what you can afford. It’s not about restricting yourself either, imo. You can be a minimalist but still have hobbies or interests for which you accumulate things.
This is a completely unrelated example that I hope will illustrate my point: people have varying definitions of being content. Each person defines it their own way. If someone says they’re content, who’s to argue with them? I mean what would be the point?
I get what you’re saying. It seems a little brazen to call oneself a minimalist without knowing what it’s like to be unable to own much. But that’s like someone who can’t have kids being cynical that someone could claim to be content who doesn’t have kids or want kids.
Anyway, I was just interested to hear your take. Please don’t take any of this in a combative tone. I enjoy hearing your thoughts on things
I will also say, i do not think as many things are subjective as we like to think.
I know this about you already because we have had a discussion about it before 😉
I, on the other hand, believe most everything to be subjective. (Emphasis on believe)
For example (and this is what we discussed before), what’s the tallest mountain on the earth? Seems like a straightforward question, but my answer would be.. it depends on your parameters. Define ‘tallest’. Above sea level? Height from base to tip? Including or excluding underwater? From the center of the earth? (Because a mountain at the equator will be further from the center of the earth than one at the poles due to the earth not being a perfect sphere)
I adore my parents but they raised me to see everything in black and white terms and I don’t know if it backfired or I rebelled but I have literally never been able to take things at face value. I’m constantly made aware of how things could be viewed differently depending on the viewpoint. I’m the world’s WORST to watch a movie with or tell a joke to because I need to consider all possible scenarios. I frequently wrote page-long essays on test questions explaining why the question could be interpreted in a couple of different ways and I needed to address them all.
It’s hard to explain but to talk to me at length about something/anything is to hear me repeatedly ask for clarification so we’re on the same page, because nothing seems like a given. It’s extremely annoying actually. I don’t know why it’s so hard to simply understand what people mean
I love your brain
I call myself a "fence dweller" b/c I see so many different angles - and can justify most even if it isn't my first thought.
Am def literal, to a fault I feel - like I have to look up words routinely
...understanding what people mean is not as simple as understanding the language, nuance, context, environment...and rando stuff
But betcha I'm worse to watch a movie with! - I have to take random breaks to like dust a table or fold or do more laundry
...and I'm usually (almost always a bit delayed) late to get a joke *too much thinking*
YES
To all of it, but especially the bolded. Very well said.
Last summer my cousin asked me if my parents had ever checked to see if I was on the spectrum. He asked specifically because of some telltale symptoms I had when I was little (rocking and rhythmic chanting to self-soothe, affinity for numbers, extreme social anxiety, sensory issues and others). I told him I didn’t think such things had ever been on my parents’ radar when I was young. Later my sister hissed to me “I can’t believe he asked you that, how rude!” I was extremely surprised by her reaction. To me it was a comforting thought to consider because it made so many little things from my childhood make sense. Like a solved puzzle.
Ultimately I know that if I am indeed on the spectrum, getting an official diagnosis would be irrelevant at this point. If I have aspergers or autism (maybe those are essentially the same?) it would be of the highly-functioning sort. Just the same, the idea has been like a warm hug of sorts. Maybe I do better with labels, I dunno
Hugs!!
My mom mentioned it to me in passing too (a few years ago), b/c of how literal I can be - and that it takes me a minute or two to "get" a joke (I'm "too" literal) - she wondered.
And yes! Like a solved puzzle, if so - that doesn't need "fixing"...It's just 'me'.
Maybe that's why I don't do well in a lot of social situations?
Maybe why it's so mentally draining and stressful for me to be in a crowd, or large group of any sort of gathering - I can hear all the individual sounds and conversations equally, and its exhausting.
And that triggers my anxiety (I think?) (I get weak in the legs, dizzy) in large crowds, past few years especially, and lately with people at work in super close proximity (if I'm agitated by them especially)...I get 'woozy' like I need to leave the situation entirely, and have problems speaking without choking on my words (so awful a feeling, embarrassing)
...but its my new 'normal'
...*kitten* me, entirely5 -
Now that I'm logging again, I really dislike food. The food I want to eat has more calories than I want to spend, and the food that fits my budget I don't want to eat. So I often skip eating.
I'm hungry. I have cals left over. I know I'm low on protein, but I want carbs. But I should have protein. The protein sources I have on hand are unappealing...So I just don't eat. It's really stupid.
Or I wait long enough and then grab a granola bar.
Or ice cream.
Mmmm ice cream.5 -
Thank-you
to everyone here who is kind to me
it helps - a lot!
I wish you all peace, in your minds and in life in general
...rolling into the x-mas -week
...just 2 weeks short of a *kitten* you 2020!
New years...
I'm hoping at some point I won't have to live like I'm in a post apocalyptic waste land - that requires breathing filters and stuff...but, ya prob not for a while?
You guys remember 2019?...We had smiles (and frowns) that could be seen and stuff - 'the good old days'?!
4 -
Thank-you
to everyone here who is kind to me
it helps - a lot!
I wish you all peace, in your minds and in life in general
...rolling into the x-mas -week
...just 2 weeks short of a *kitten* you 2020!
New years...
I'm hoping at some point I won't have to live like I'm in a post apocalyptic waste land - that requires breathing filters and stuff...but, ya prob not for a while?
You guys remember 2019?...We had smiles (and frowns) that could be seen and stuff - 'the good old days'?!
Big squishy warm hugs to you 🤗2 -
WWYD??
Last week and this week we've had a crew in/out redoing our bathroom. The contractor and his main guy, an electrician and a plumber. The contractor was joking with my dh(while I was gone) about making him a cheesecake if he got the job done before Christmas. I'd be happy to do that BUT what about the other 3 guys, especially his main guy who's been here the whole time and handles all the dirt work.
So 1) Dh suggested I make a cheesecake and divide it in 1/3's, 1 for the contractor, 1 for the main guy and course 1 for my dh. 
Maybe a good idea? 2) OR I could make it and set it out on the table for those 3 to take what they want(the plumber/electrician is in/out so never know when their part of the job will be done), maybe a good idea? 3) OR forego the cheesecake idea altogether and buy the 2 main guys a case of beer(something like Sam Adams, etc). 4) OR put the cheesecake on the table to share, plus get the 2 main guys the beer.
What to do, what to do?
Anybody actually read this book and have an opinion because I could use one. Personally, I'm leaning for option 4.
Thank you!!!2 -
WWYD??
Last week and this week we've had a crew in/out redoing our bathroom. The contractor and his main guy, an electrician and a plumber. The contractor was joking with my dh(while I was gone) about making him a cheesecake if he got the job done before Christmas. I'd be happy to do that BUT what about the other 3 guys, especially his main guy who's been here the whole time and handles all the dirt work. So 1) Dh suggested I make a cheesecake and divide it in 1/3's, 1 for the contractor, 1 for the main guy and course 1 for my dh. Maybe a good idea? 2) OR I could make it and set it out on the table for those 3 to take what they want(the plumber/electrician is in/out so never know when their part of the job will be done), maybe a good idea? 3) OR forego the cheesecake idea altogether and buy the 2 main guys a case of beer(something like Sam Adams, etc). 4) OR put the cheesecake on the table to share, plus get the 2 main guys the beer.
What to do, what to do?
Anybody actually read this book and have an opinion because I could use one. Personally, I'm leaning for option 4.
Thank you!!!
If you can swing 4, I think it's super awesome. But if not, then I'd go with 2. Make the cheesecake, and when they come over, invite them to have a break and enjoy a piece (or take it home).1 -
WWYD??
Last week and this week we've had a crew in/out redoing our bathroom. The contractor and his main guy, an electrician and a plumber. The contractor was joking with my dh(while I was gone) about making him a cheesecake if he got the job done before Christmas. I'd be happy to do that BUT what about the other 3 guys, especially his main guy who's been here the whole time and handles all the dirt work. So 1) Dh suggested I make a cheesecake and divide it in 1/3's, 1 for the contractor, 1 for the main guy and course 1 for my dh. Maybe a good idea? 2) OR I could make it and set it out on the table for those 3 to take what they want(the plumber/electrician is in/out so never know when their part of the job will be done), maybe a good idea? 3) OR forego the cheesecake idea altogether and buy the 2 main guys a case of beer(something like Sam Adams, etc). 4) OR put the cheesecake on the table to share, plus get the 2 main guys the beer.
What to do, what to do?
Anybody actually read this book and have an opinion because I could use one. Personally, I'm leaning for option 4.
Thank you!!!
Id come over and finish your bathroom for the price of a good homemade cheesecake! I rarely eat desserts, but cheesckae is my favorite!6 -
WWYD??
Last week and this week we've had a crew in/out redoing our bathroom. The contractor and his main guy, an electrician and a plumber. The contractor was joking with my dh(while I was gone) about making him a cheesecake if he got the job done before Christmas. I'd be happy to do that BUT what about the other 3 guys, especially his main guy who's been here the whole time and handles all the dirt work. So 1) Dh suggested I make a cheesecake and divide it in 1/3's, 1 for the contractor, 1 for the main guy and course 1 for my dh. Maybe a good idea? 2) OR I could make it and set it out on the table for those 3 to take what they want(the plumber/electrician is in/out so never know when their part of the job will be done), maybe a good idea? 3) OR forego the cheesecake idea altogether and buy the 2 main guys a case of beer(something like Sam Adams, etc). 4) OR put the cheesecake on the table to share, plus get the 2 main guys the beer.
What to do, what to do?
Anybody actually read this book and have an opinion because I could use one. Personally, I'm leaning for option 4.
Thank you!!!
Id come over and finish your bathroom for the price of a good homemade cheesecake! I rarely eat desserts, but cheesckae is my favorite!
PMing you my address. Paying your flight. He!!, I'll make you a whole cheesecake just for you. 
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WWYD??
Last week and this week we've had a crew in/out redoing our bathroom. The contractor and his main guy, an electrician and a plumber. The contractor was joking with my dh(while I was gone) about making him a cheesecake if he got the job done before Christmas. I'd be happy to do that BUT what about the other 3 guys, especially his main guy who's been here the whole time and handles all the dirt work. So 1) Dh suggested I make a cheesecake and divide it in 1/3's, 1 for the contractor, 1 for the main guy and course 1 for my dh. Maybe a good idea? 2) OR I could make it and set it out on the table for those 3 to take what they want(the plumber/electrician is in/out so never know when their part of the job will be done), maybe a good idea? 3) OR forego the cheesecake idea altogether and buy the 2 main guys a case of beer(something like Sam Adams, etc). 4) OR put the cheesecake on the table to share, plus get the 2 main guys the beer.
What to do, what to do?
Anybody actually read this book and have an opinion because I could use one. Personally, I'm leaning for option 4.
Thank you!!!
I would make nice wrapped plates for each of the workers to take home. The thought of all those people eating (presumably unmasked) in my home would make me incredibly anxious.2
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