Zero Carber-give me your meat!

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  • FIT_Goat
    FIT_Goat Posts: 4,224 Member
    Note, sirloin isn't a bad meat. I find untrimmed sirloin in bulk, which is fatty enough for me. But, even a normal sirloin is sometimes the right steak for my desires. Just depends on what looks right to me.
  • T1DCarnivoreRunner
    T1DCarnivoreRunner Posts: 11,474 Member
    @FIT_Goat How much is bulk? Around where I live, some sell 1/4 or 1/2 of a cow, but not sure how much they pay or how much meat it is or how it gets packaged.
  • Dragonwolf
    Dragonwolf Posts: 5,614 Member
    FIT_Goat wrote: »
    Note, sirloin isn't a bad meat. I find untrimmed sirloin in bulk, which is fatty enough for me. But, even a normal sirloin is sometimes the right steak for my desires. Just depends on what looks right to me.

    I didn't mean to imply sirloin is off limits (hell, it's arguably my favorite cut of meat as long as it's cooked right), but rather that it's usually held up as the "better choice" between the two in conventional wisdom and my example is an inverse of that.

    I agree that a lot of it comes down to "eat meat, listen to your body," but she wanted "rules" to get started. I think once she dives in, she'll start seeing that "listen to your body" starts trumping most of the other things.
  • FIT_Goat
    FIT_Goat Posts: 4,224 Member
    Dragonwolf wrote: »
    FIT_Goat wrote: »
    Note, sirloin isn't a bad meat. I find untrimmed sirloin in bulk, which is fatty enough for me. But, even a normal sirloin is sometimes the right steak for my desires. Just depends on what looks right to me.

    I didn't mean to imply sirloin is off limits (hell, it's arguably my favorite cut of meat as long as it's cooked right), but rather that it's usually held up as the "better choice" between the two in conventional wisdom and my example is an inverse of that.

    I agree that a lot of it comes down to "eat meat, listen to your body," but she wanted "rules" to get started. I think once she dives in, she'll start seeing that "listen to your body" starts trumping most of the other things.

    I know you meant that. And fatty is best. Just wanted to point out that it isn't the end of the world to have sirloin. There's no "wrong" meat, except maybe trying to live in boneless/skinless chicken breast. Lol
  • suzqtme
    suzqtme Posts: 322 Member
    Boneless skinless chicken breast swimming in alfredo sauce (cheese, cream and parmesan cheese). Yum!
  • Bayluvr
    Bayluvr Posts: 115 Member
    suzqtme wrote: »
    Boneless skinless chicken breast swimming in alfredo sauce (cheese, cream and parmesan cheese). Yum!

    That's exactly what I had for dinner, though i wanted quick and easy so used jarred sauce (which was not bad) and had it along with riced cauliflower. It was yummy :)
  • Kirstie155
    Kirstie155 Posts: 1,001 Member
    Been eating a lot of chocolate. Need to cut that out. Other than that, stuck to zc!
  • Kirstie155
    Kirstie155 Posts: 1,001 Member
    It turns out meal prepping (or at least having fresh meat) is key to eating ZC. All my meat is frozen, so I had commercial jerky for breakfast which is full of sugar and other crap, and for lunch I have some swiss cheese and ham slices. Not terrible choices, but certainly not the best. I'd rather eat beef! Tonight I am cooking some ground beef for dinner and for tomorrows meals.

    Yesterday I was on a college campus and found a triple cheeseburger with no bun. There must have been fillers in that beef because I ended up pretty sick after eating it.
  • ccrdragon
    ccrdragon Posts: 3,287 Member
    Kirstie155 wrote: »
    Been eating a lot of chocolate. Need to cut that out. Other than that, stuck to zc!

    I had some chocolate last night - first real sugar I've had since going ZC - but I'm dumping water this morning like crazy so hopefully no real harm done besides a little water-weight gain this morning.
    Kirstie155 wrote: »
    It turns out meal prepping (or at least having fresh meat) is key to eating ZC. All my meat is frozen, so I had commercial jerky for breakfast which is full of sugar and other crap, and for lunch I have some swiss cheese and ham slices. Not terrible choices, but certainly not the best. I'd rather eat beef! Tonight I am cooking some ground beef for dinner and for tomorrows meals.

    Yesterday I was on a college campus and found a triple cheeseburger with no bun. There must have been fillers in that beef because I ended up pretty sick after eating it.

    My wife used to work quality control for a company that made hamburger patties for the local schools and having worked that job she will never eat an 'institutional burger' again in her life. They start with really cheap cuts of meat and add soy protein and other fillers to meet government requirements for RDA values and to keep the costs down.
  • Kirstie155
    Kirstie155 Posts: 1,001 Member
    ccrdragon wrote: »

    My wife used to work quality control for a company that made hamburger patties for the local schools and having worked that job she will never eat an 'institutional burger' again in her life. They start with really cheap cuts of meat and add soy protein and other fillers to meet government requirements for RDA values and to keep the costs down.

    Ugh soy!!! Yep, my stomach revolted pretty hard. That poor toilet... :s It was a real bummer because I thought I had made a good choice. College campuses arent exactly the most zc friendly. Burgers, salads, burritos, chinese. And apparently the meat isnt even real meat!
    When Im on the go, I have eaten Wendys burgers no problem, they say they are 100% real beef on their website. 5 guys is also great, but is more expensive.
  • Kirstie155
    Kirstie155 Posts: 1,001 Member
    Checking in. It has been 6 weeks and 2 days (not that I am counting) since I took the plunge and went zero carb. In the past 2 weeks I have had chocolate quite a bit and wine twice. This past Saturday I had a few bagel crisps. I'm no longer obsessing about what I eat, and it is easy to tell the effects of these indulgences.

    My bathroom troubles are FINALLY gone. Last week was the turning point. Thank God, this was really starting to seem like a poor choice-haha! If you are taking the plunge and not sure if this is right for you...there is a light at the end of the tunnel! I had cut back my fat intake (stopped adding butter and extra fat to my meat) and have also stopped drinking fluids with my meals-I drink water only when thirsty but not with food, and dont track how much I drink. I also drink coffee with hwc or half and half as needed/wanted.

    I have not had the weight just fall off me. Im down about 12? pounds, and since I am in my 30s, have plenty of belly fat and am at least 50# overweight this has been frustrating. I was really hoping to be down 20, 30, 40! (ha!) pounds by now. I have taken pictures, and can certainly see a difference in my body so I will keep at it and try to just be patient with the scale. I love meat, and grilled porkchops, burgers, sausages and chicken and gorged myself on it for dinner. Every bite was delicious! I dont feel deprived at all, and once you get past the social aspect of it, zc eating is quite simple and inexpensive! I have even told a few people in my family, and a friend. No lectures or judgement so that was nice.

    I hope you all are having a pleasant journey of your own, and that this thread has helped answer questions or inspire someone. Threads like this got me interested in ZC last year and gave me the courage to try it for real this year. Im still a newb, but am happy to answer questions!
  • retirehappy
    retirehappy Posts: 5,223 Member
    Kirstie155 wrote: »
    Been eating a lot of chocolate. Need to cut that out. Other than that, stuck to zc!

    Try chocolate fat bombs, 125 grams of coconut oil (melted in microwave for 30 secs. add 25 grams of 100% pure cacao powder, stevia if you can't stand full on dark chocolate, plus a dash of vanilla extract. Put in a candy mold or a silicon mold for mini muffins will work, or the orca ice cube trays do well. Freeze for at least 30 mins. Less than one carb per serve. Really gets rid of the chocolate crazing and I now prefer this to any other chocolate product.

    I find is something is "forbidden" it just calls my name forever, so I found these, works for me.

    We now return you to full on meat chatting :)
  • Kirstie155
    Kirstie155 Posts: 1,001 Member
    The real problem is that I bought a bag of dark chocolate chips and until its gone I eat a handful or more every day! It's really just because they are there. Thanks for the suggestion, that was thoughtful :)
  • KnitOrMiss
    KnitOrMiss Posts: 10,104 Member
    Kirstie155 wrote: »
    The real problem is that I bought a bag of dark chocolate chips and until its gone I eat a handful or more every day! It's really just because they are there. Thanks for the suggestion, that was thoughtful :)

    You can also melt them with equal parts of heavy cream if you include that, and blend until smooth. Then let cook, and make truffles. You can cut it further with coconut oil or something if you like, too, and then roll them in crushed nuts or cocoa powder for a fancy fatty, and slightly less sweet treat.
  • Sunny_Bunny_
    Sunny_Bunny_ Posts: 7,141 Member
    I had no beef at all yesterday and was basically hungry all day!
    Had my usual black coffee in the morning. Though, recently, I had been adding half n half which I typically don't because I want to stay fasting. I'm now back to black coffee.
    I thought I would just wait until dinner to eat but I got hungry around 2pm so I grabbed a few pieces of salami and a slice of cheddar cheese with a little mayo. Well, that just made me hungrier! So I fried 2 eggs... still hungry. So I had some more cheese... I still didn't exactly feel satisfied so I made coffee and had some with half n half. That finally got me under control.
    I didn't have any real meat available to cook up quickly. That's definitely what I needed.
    I think that's the hardest part for me. My appetite is so hit or miss that I hesitate to keep fresh meat ready to go all the time because it will just go bad sometimes. Or I'll cook it for leftovers, but then it's over cooked by the time I reheat it and just not as good.
    Then dinner was tilapia and shrimp in a scampi sauce I made which wasn't satisfying either. I practically ate the butter sauce with a spoon trying to add some satiety but without beef, I just don't feel the same. I tried not to eat again after dinner but I ended up having salami rolls with cream cheese and some hot tea. A hot drink seems to help me during hungry times.
    I probably didn't actually end up overeating even though I felt like I was eating all day.
    I think I'm going to really put more effort into keeping beef on hand ready to cook. I have the best overall experience on beef heavy days. It's really the only meat I actually crave. I just tolerate everything else.
  • ncahill77
    ncahill77 Posts: 501 Member
    Sunny Bunny I get like that sometimes, usually when that happens I either need beef or copious amounts of cheese before I feel full, it's just weird but thankfully it doesn't happen often. Also yesterday I sucked, I ate more total carbs than I have in a month, fortunately my net carbs weren't terrible.
  • ncahill77
    ncahill77 Posts: 501 Member
    Kirstie155 wrote: »
    Been eating a lot of chocolate. Need to cut that out. Other than that, stuck to zc!

    I have been eating 2 squares of 90% cacao chocolate per night, after being off sugar for month than a month that is actually sweet to me now, 2 months ago I would have gagged and spit that out in disgust.
  • swezeytba
    swezeytba Posts: 624 Member
    I had no beef at all yesterday and was basically hungry all day!
    Had my usual black coffee in the morning. Though, recently, I had been adding half n half which I typically don't because I want to stay fasting. I'm now back to black coffee.
    I thought I would just wait until dinner to eat but I got hungry around 2pm so I grabbed a few pieces of salami and a slice of cheddar cheese with a little mayo. Well, that just made me hungrier! So I fried 2 eggs... still hungry. So I had some more cheese... I still didn't exactly feel satisfied so I made coffee and had some with half n half. That finally got me under control.
    I didn't have any real meat available to cook up quickly. That's definitely what I needed.
    I think that's the hardest part for me. My appetite is so hit or miss that I hesitate to keep fresh meat ready to go all the time because it will just go bad sometimes. Or I'll cook it for leftovers, but then it's over cooked by the time I reheat it and just not as good.
    Then dinner was tilapia and shrimp in a scampi sauce I made which wasn't satisfying either. I practically ate the butter sauce with a spoon trying to add some satiety but without beef, I just don't feel the same. I tried not to eat again after dinner but I ended up having salami rolls with cream cheese and some hot tea. A hot drink seems to help me during hungry times.
    I probably didn't actually end up overeating even though I felt like I was eating all day.
    I think I'm going to really put more effort into keeping beef on hand ready to cook. I have the best overall experience on beef heavy days. It's really the only meat I actually crave. I just tolerate everything else.

    @Sunny_Bunny_ - Maybe when you find a good deal on beef stock up and cook some up ahead of time and freeze it in single serve portions. We did some roasted pork butt this way, but you could do beef roast just the same. For some reason I feel like the frozen meat reheats much better than leftover meat that sits in the fridge for a couple of days. :)
  • cstehansen
    cstehansen Posts: 1,984 Member
    I had no beef at all yesterday and was basically hungry all day!
    Had my usual black coffee in the morning. Though, recently, I had been adding half n half which I typically don't because I want to stay fasting. I'm now back to black coffee.
    I thought I would just wait until dinner to eat but I got hungry around 2pm so I grabbed a few pieces of salami and a slice of cheddar cheese with a little mayo. Well, that just made me hungrier! So I fried 2 eggs... still hungry. So I had some more cheese... I still didn't exactly feel satisfied so I made coffee and had some with half n half. That finally got me under control.
    I didn't have any real meat available to cook up quickly. That's definitely what I needed.
    I think that's the hardest part for me. My appetite is so hit or miss that I hesitate to keep fresh meat ready to go all the time because it will just go bad sometimes. Or I'll cook it for leftovers, but then it's over cooked by the time I reheat it and just not as good.
    Then dinner was tilapia and shrimp in a scampi sauce I made which wasn't satisfying either. I practically ate the butter sauce with a spoon trying to add some satiety but without beef, I just don't feel the same. I tried not to eat again after dinner but I ended up having salami rolls with cream cheese and some hot tea. A hot drink seems to help me during hungry times.
    I probably didn't actually end up overeating even though I felt like I was eating all day.
    I think I'm going to really put more effort into keeping beef on hand ready to cook. I have the best overall experience on beef heavy days. It's really the only meat I actually crave. I just tolerate everything else.

    2 words - crock pot. I get good beef whenever it is on sale or has been marked down due to getting a couple days older and fix it in my crock pot. From there, I put it straight into single serve containers for lunches that week and, if there is more than I need for the week, I put some of it in the freezer.

    After I take out most of it, I add some shirataki noodles to the liquid and little bits that are left in there along with some other meat and cook for a few more hours to get a few servings of soup as well. This works especially well if it is beef with bones because I am basically making a heartier bone broth at that point by cooking them longer between removing the majority of the meat and adding the noodles and other meat (frequently sausage lately).
  • Kirstie155
    Kirstie155 Posts: 1,001 Member
    Just thought I'd give an update! Still mostly ZC, though last Friday I had some wine and a 2 cookies. Then Saturday had a few chips, then Sunday rolled around...had a whole sub and chips with a huge piece of cake and some ice cream. It is a slippery slope friends. Glad to say that the 6# (yes, SIX POUNDS) of bloat is gone, the stomach cramps that woke me up in the middle of the night have passed, and my bowels will hopefully settle the kitten down soon (still have some upset on Thursday.) So, lesson learned! I will not be doing that again anytime soon, and on Monday I mostly fasted and have eaten Ribeyes and ground beef with coffee and water ever since.

    ZC is the way for me! Today the scale said 191.8, so Im down about 12-15# since starting this WOE. Cant remember exactly what I weighed when I started!