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Carlos_421 wrote: »I brought in Panera bagels for my team this morning. As they entered the conference room for our team meeting, I enthusiastically encouraged each of them to take a bagel.
I'm such a jerk.
Side note: Only 2 out of 11 accepted and the rest went to the kitchen to go for grabs. I was not offended by the 9 people who refused a bagel. I guess bagel culture is not as strong as cake culture.
Should have gotten more cinnamon crunch bagels, those always go first. Although then there's always the jerk who takes the top part and leaves the sad bottom in the box.6 -
On the bright side, this way I get to announce their presence to the rest of the department and thus be a REALLY big jerk!!
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Nony_Mouse wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »oh how I would love to write my psych dissertation on cake culture in the workplace....haha!
Why not? Another theme would be how it intersects with the individualism of American culture...hence the primary defence being along the lines of "it's your choice to eat or not eat the cake" "just say no" etc. How does cake culture play out in societies that value conformity over individualism?
I'm not American. It intersects with my culture of being a human who has always, throughout history, shared food as social bonding.
May I ask, what you are then? Although many cultures have commonalities, there is no one 'human' culture.
Can you tell me of a human culture where sharing of food in times of celebration isn't a thing?
In China, the traditional food to celebrate a birthday are peaches and noodles, not cake.
But still food...........
Yes. Ok, I didn't want to go there but honestly, you are not using the term "culture" correctly. The definition of culture is the customs, practices and beliefs of a particular people or society. By definition, there can be no universal human "culture". So your point that all humans share food is merely pointing out a commonality between cultures. Sorry, but there it is.
Of course you didn't.
I don't expect you to understand. After all you are a layman so are not as sensitive to the misuse of technical terminology.
You pulled that definition from the dictionary. Not actually what you will find written in any even first year anthropology text. If you're going to try to pretend you're an anthropologist, maybe make sure there isn't someone who actually is one in the room...
So what if I used a dictionary? I don't have any of my "first year" Anthropology texts back from 1989. And yeah, I have other degrees too, I went into forensics as in forensic anthropology as in skeleton and bodies and s*t like that. Not an anthropologist, well how about you inform the UN that I was a complete fraud whilst working on the mass graves of slaughtered innocents after the Bosnian war? Or when I shipped off to ground zero post 9/11 with the D MORT? You're just a random bunch of people on the internet and you know nothing.25 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »oh how I would love to write my psych dissertation on cake culture in the workplace....haha!
Why not? Another theme would be how it intersects with the individualism of American culture...hence the primary defence being along the lines of "it's your choice to eat or not eat the cake" "just say no" etc. How does cake culture play out in societies that value conformity over individualism?
I'm not American. It intersects with my culture of being a human who has always, throughout history, shared food as social bonding.
May I ask, what you are then? Although many cultures have commonalities, there is no one 'human' culture.
Can you tell me of a human culture where sharing of food in times of celebration isn't a thing?
In China, the traditional food to celebrate a birthday are peaches and noodles, not cake.
But still food...........
Yes. Ok, I didn't want to go there but honestly, you are not using the term "culture" correctly. The definition of culture is the customs, practices and beliefs of a particular people or society. By definition, there can be no universal human "culture". So your point that all humans share food is merely pointing out a commonality between cultures. Sorry, but there it is.
Of course you didn't.
I don't expect you to understand. After all you are a layman so are not as sensitive to the misuse of technical terminology.
You pulled that definition from the dictionary. Not actually what you will find written in any even first year anthropology text. If you're going to try to pretend you're an anthropologist, maybe make sure there isn't someone who actually is one in the room...
So what if I used a dictionary? I don't have any of my "first year" Anthropology texts back from 1989. And yeah, I have other degrees too, I went into forensics as in forensic anthropology as in skeleton and bodies and s*t like that. Not an anthropologist, well how about you inform the UN that I was a complete fraud whilst working on the mass graves of slaughtered innocents after the Bosnian war? Or when I shipped off to ground zero post 9/11 with the D MORT? You're just a random bunch of people on the internet and you know nothing.
Oh boy, that must have been after NASA...
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Carlos_421 wrote: »annaskiski wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »I brought in Panera bagels for my team this morning. As they entered the conference room for our team meeting, I enthusiastically encouraged each of them to take a bagel.
I'm such a jerk.
Side note: Only 2 out of 11 accepted and the rest went to the kitchen to go for grabs. I was not offended by the 9 people who refused a bagel. I guess bagel culture is not as strong as cake culture.
You should have fired them.
Nah, I'll just shake them into submission.
And, getting to the important issue, you should have threatened them with this...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4892552/Man-freed-firefighters-sticking-penis-weight.html2 -
I am so not clicking that link.6
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cmriverside wrote: »I am so not clicking that link.
Good choice. Headline says enough and we give no money to the Daily Fail.3 -
I didn't know penis would make it past the kitten filter.
penis.12 -
annaskiski wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »annaskiski wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »I brought in Panera bagels for my team this morning. As they entered the conference room for our team meeting, I enthusiastically encouraged each of them to take a bagel.
I'm such a jerk.
Side note: Only 2 out of 11 accepted and the rest went to the kitchen to go for grabs. I was not offended by the 9 people who refused a bagel. I guess bagel culture is not as strong as cake culture.
You should have fired them.
Nah, I'll just shake them into submission.
And, getting to the important issue, you should have threatened them with this...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4892552/Man-freed-firefighters-sticking-penis-weight.html
Hahahahahaha. I took one for the team and clicked (not just cause I'm a perv). I hope there was no one else in the gym at the time. I also hope he finds a more suitable place to stick the wee man in future. Poor firefighters, although it gives them an entertaining story.3 -
annaskiski wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »annaskiski wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »I brought in Panera bagels for my team this morning. As they entered the conference room for our team meeting, I enthusiastically encouraged each of them to take a bagel.
I'm such a jerk.
Side note: Only 2 out of 11 accepted and the rest went to the kitchen to go for grabs. I was not offended by the 9 people who refused a bagel. I guess bagel culture is not as strong as cake culture.
You should have fired them.
Nah, I'll just shake them into submission.
And, getting to the important issue, you should have threatened them with this...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4892552/Man-freed-firefighters-sticking-penis-weight.html
Bad journalism - they state how much the plate was, 2.5k, but not the weight of the bar5 -
VintageFeline wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »oh how I would love to write my psych dissertation on cake culture in the workplace....haha!
Why not? Another theme would be how it intersects with the individualism of American culture...hence the primary defence being along the lines of "it's your choice to eat or not eat the cake" "just say no" etc. How does cake culture play out in societies that value conformity over individualism?
I'm not American. It intersects with my culture of being a human who has always, throughout history, shared food as social bonding.
May I ask, what you are then? Although many cultures have commonalities, there is no one 'human' culture.
Can you tell me of a human culture where sharing of food in times of celebration isn't a thing?
In China, the traditional food to celebrate a birthday are peaches and noodles, not cake.
In other words: no, you can't name a human culture that doesn't share food in times of celebration.6 -
Bry_Lander wrote: »annaskiski wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »annaskiski wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »I brought in Panera bagels for my team this morning. As they entered the conference room for our team meeting, I enthusiastically encouraged each of them to take a bagel.
I'm such a jerk.
Side note: Only 2 out of 11 accepted and the rest went to the kitchen to go for grabs. I was not offended by the 9 people who refused a bagel. I guess bagel culture is not as strong as cake culture.
You should have fired them.
Nah, I'll just shake them into submission.
And, getting to the important issue, you should have threatened them with this...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4892552/Man-freed-firefighters-sticking-penis-weight.html
Bad journalism - they state how much the plate was, 2.5k, but not the weight of the bar
Without the pieces in front of me, I can't be certain, but it doesn't appear to be a 2" oly plate, so I'm guessing it was a smaller bar.1 -
annaskiski wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »oh how I would love to write my psych dissertation on cake culture in the workplace....haha!
Why not? Another theme would be how it intersects with the individualism of American culture...hence the primary defence being along the lines of "it's your choice to eat or not eat the cake" "just say no" etc. How does cake culture play out in societies that value conformity over individualism?
I'm not American. It intersects with my culture of being a human who has always, throughout history, shared food as social bonding.
May I ask, what you are then? Although many cultures have commonalities, there is no one 'human' culture.
Can you tell me of a human culture where sharing of food in times of celebration isn't a thing?
In China, the traditional food to celebrate a birthday are peaches and noodles, not cake.
But still food...........
Yes. Ok, I didn't want to go there but honestly, you are not using the term "culture" correctly. The definition of culture is the customs, practices and beliefs of a particular people or society. By definition, there can be no universal human "culture". So your point that all humans share food is merely pointing out a commonality between cultures. Sorry, but there it is.
Of course you didn't.
I don't expect you to understand. After all you are a layman so are not as sensitive to the misuse of technical terminology.
You pulled that definition from the dictionary. Not actually what you will find written in any even first year anthropology text. If you're going to try to pretend you're an anthropologist, maybe make sure there isn't someone who actually is one in the room...
So what if I used a dictionary? I don't have any of my "first year" Anthropology texts back from 1989. And yeah, I have other degrees too, I went into forensics as in forensic anthropology as in skeleton and bodies and s*t like that. Not an anthropologist, well how about you inform the UN that I was a complete fraud whilst working on the mass graves of slaughtered innocents after the Bosnian war? Or when I shipped off to ground zero post 9/11 with the D MORT? You're just a random bunch of people on the internet and you know nothing.
Oh boy, that must have been after NASA...
And Iraq and Afghanistan. She was there too.6 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »Here's a wee link for you, Macy, since you seem to have forgotten the basics: http://anthro.palomar.edu/culture/culture_1.htm
Note specifically the third layer of culture:
"The third layer of culture consists of cultural universals. These are learned behavior patterns that are shared by all of humanity collectively. No matter where people live in the world, they share these universal traits. Examples of such "human cultural" traits include:
1. communicating with a verbal language consisting of a limited set of sounds and grammatical rules for constructing sentences
2. using age and gender to classify people (e.g., teenager, senior citizen, woman, man)
3. classifying people based on marriage and descent relationships and having kinship terms to refer to
them (e.g., wife, mother, uncle, cousin)
4. raising children in some sort of family setting
5. having a sexual division of labor (e.g., men's work versus women's work)
6. having a concept of privacy
7. having rules to regulate sexual behavior
8. distinguishing between good and bad behavior
9. having some sort of body ornamentation
10. making jokes and playing games
11. having art
12. having some sort of leadership roles for the implementation of community decisions
While all cultures have these and possibly many other universal traits, different cultures have developed their own specific ways of carrying out or expressing them. For instance, people in deaf subcultures frequently use their hands to communicate with sign language instead of verbal language. However, sign languages have grammatical rules just as verbal ones do.
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janejellyroll wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »I brought in Panera bagels for my team this morning. As they entered the conference room for our team meeting, I enthusiastically encouraged each of them to take a bagel.
I'm such a jerk.
Side note: Only 2 out of 11 accepted and the rest went to the kitchen to go for grabs. I was not offended by the 9 people who refused a bagel. I guess bagel culture is not as strong as cake culture.
Bagel culture is strong in my office. Most of the time when food is brought in, it's bagels and coffee and it usually goes pretty quickly.
And I love bagels, so I usually make room for one.
When I worked in a university back in the 80's, we either got danish or bagels. I preferred the bagels even though the danish were exceptional as danish go.
My boss sometimes sprung for a platter of both.1 -
annaskiski wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »annaskiski wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »I brought in Panera bagels for my team this morning. As they entered the conference room for our team meeting, I enthusiastically encouraged each of them to take a bagel.
I'm such a jerk.
Side note: Only 2 out of 11 accepted and the rest went to the kitchen to go for grabs. I was not offended by the 9 people who refused a bagel. I guess bagel culture is not as strong as cake culture.
You should have fired them.
Nah, I'll just shake them into submission.
And, getting to the important issue, you should have threatened them with this...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4892552/Man-freed-firefighters-sticking-penis-weight.html
Not clicking a link, but that was posted to a FB group I belong to. I saw a picture.
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OF THE PLATE, you pervs.9 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »I brought in Panera bagels for my team this morning. As they entered the conference room for our team meeting, I enthusiastically encouraged each of them to take a bagel.
I'm such a jerk.
Side note: Only 2 out of 11 accepted and the rest went to the kitchen to go for grabs. I was not offended by the 9 people who refused a bagel. I guess bagel culture is not as strong as cake culture.
The food shaming in cake culture is substantially less when it comes to store-bought items. Spurning food that was created using a family recipe and toiling in the kitchen for hours makes certain people salty.6 -
At this point in the thread, it seems like we can transition to gifs...
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Nony_Mouse wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »oh how I would love to write my psych dissertation on cake culture in the workplace....haha!
Why not? Another theme would be how it intersects with the individualism of American culture...hence the primary defence being along the lines of "it's your choice to eat or not eat the cake" "just say no" etc. How does cake culture play out in societies that value conformity over individualism?
I'm not American. It intersects with my culture of being a human who has always, throughout history, shared food as social bonding.
May I ask, what you are then? Although many cultures have commonalities, there is no one 'human' culture.
Can you tell me of a human culture where sharing of food in times of celebration isn't a thing?
In China, the traditional food to celebrate a birthday are peaches and noodles, not cake.
But still food...........
Yes. Ok, I didn't want to go there but honestly, you are not using the term "culture" correctly. The definition of culture is the customs, practices and beliefs of a particular people or society. By definition, there can be no universal human "culture". So your point that all humans share food is merely pointing out a commonality between cultures. Sorry, but there it is.
Of course you didn't.
I don't expect you to understand. After all you are a layman so are not as sensitive to the misuse of technical terminology.
You pulled that definition from the dictionary. Not actually what you will find written in any even first year anthropology text. If you're going to try to pretend you're an anthropologist, maybe make sure there isn't someone who actually is one in the room...
So what if I used a dictionary? I don't have any of my "first year" Anthropology texts back from 1989. And yeah, I have other degrees too, I went into forensics as in forensic anthropology as in skeleton and bodies and s*t like that. Not an anthropologist, well how about you inform the UN that I was a complete fraud whilst working on the mass graves of slaughtered innocents after the Bosnian war? Or when I shipped off to ground zero post 9/11 with the D MORT? You're just a random bunch of people on the internet and you know nothing.
And this is interesting or relevant to your initial "cake culture" assertion how? No matter how much you pad your resume it still makes a poor appeal to authority argument.17 -
vegaslounge wrote: »I'm late to the thread (it's been a fun read!) but figured I'd throw in my two cents...
I hate the "my coworker is trying to sabotage my weight loss by bringing in treats!" whine. And I don't just say this as a coworker who brings in said treats, I say it as a human being who has free will and doesn't have a paranoid chip on her shoulder, chocolate or otherwise.
You are not so special, and the world not so petty, that Becky from accounting is trying to derail your – yes, YOUR! PERSONAL!– weight loss goals. Even if she is, you aren't tied to your office chair while she crams cookies fois gras-style down your gullet (if this is the case, I think OSHA would be a better organization to contact than MFP). Occam's razor would say that your coworker is trying to be nice and, also, you aren't the only person in the office, buttercup. Maybe Josh from marketing or that guy who delivers the mail whom you've never bothered to learn the name of would like an afternoon pick-me-up.
The "solutions" to this "problem" are usually just as bad. I especially hate the, "throw it away in front of them, they'll get the hint" one. Again, I AM that coworker who brings in homemade goods, and based on feedback, I am a damn good cook. I've also lost 35lb in the last year. I love to bake (it's very soothing) but I don't have much of a sweet tooth so I undoubtedly make more than I know I'd eat for weeks. So, why not share the bounty? Honestly, if a coworker accepted a brownie and then made sure that I saw them throw it in the trash, I wouldn't "take the hint" that I'm not supposed to bring in treats. I'd be a little hurt because I put time, money and effort into doing something nice for the office and you're frankly coming across like a world-class kittenhole and remarkable egotist for no good reason. Even if your coworker is bringing in dollar-store doughnuts, they spent their money to be nice. Hell, my supervisor's treat last month sent me into anaphylaxis and I don't shout "murderer!" every time I see her (sometimes. Not every time.)
Maybe I'm completely wrong. Maybe there really are Brazil-esque businesses where your coworkers surround you chanting "EAT! THE! CAKE!!! EAT! THE! CAKE!!!" and you get a zap to the cajones if you refuse. Is that what real office jobs are like? I've worked in non-profits my professional career, we're kind of the hippies of the corporate world.
I personally think this cake culture is a damaging maladaption. It's not a "nice" thing to bring in fat pills. It's definitely a bad thing to do. But because we have a cake culture in offices, it's almost expected that everyone take their turn bringing in sugary, fatty foods with which to tempt each other. Also to order and share a cake when a coworker has a birthday...yuck. It's just not a healthy practice for us humans to have adopted and yet we have and there's all kind of societal expectations around accepting the food, taking your turn to bring in food, etc. The sooner gone the better.
This is probably the saddest, most blinkered view of social behavior I have ever seen expressed on the forums here.
Lol. I guess it would surprise you then if I said my bachelors degree was in Anthropology. Don't feel sad for me though! I feel sad for all the poor blue pill lemmings chomping down on cake and donuts in offices every day. I don't think cake culture should be banned, I'm pretty libertarian, but it would be better for us as a species facing an obesity crisis if we didn't have this cultural norm.
Really? Cake in the office is not an existential threat to homo sapiens.11
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