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What are your unpopular opinions about health / fitness?
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Yep. This has taken a weird turn. From "a PT must be in shape" (I still think they don't have to if they don't want to and if it doesn't affect their ability to train) to all kinds of irrelevant silliness.0
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amusedmonkey wrote: »Yep. This has taken a weird turn. From "a PT must be in shape" (I still think they don't have to if they don't want to) to all kinds of irrelevant silliness.
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amusedmonkey wrote: »Yep. This has taken a weird turn. From "a PT must be in shape" (I still think they don't have to if they don't want to and if it doesn't affect their ability to train) to all kinds of irrelevant silliness.
My opinion: A PT SHOULD be in shape. Being out of shape CAN affect their ability to train. Not once did I say a PT has to be in shape or they're incapable.0 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »Yep. This has taken a weird turn. From "a PT must be in shape" (I still think they don't have to if they don't want to) to all kinds of irrelevant silliness.
Are you .....amused
I am actually. I'm more amused than insulting by fat shaming. I wonder why it happens and what mechanisms drive it.1 -
joemac1988 wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »Yep. This has taken a weird turn. From "a PT must be in shape" (I still think they don't have to if they don't want to and if it doesn't affect their ability to train) to all kinds of irrelevant silliness.
My opinion: A PT SHOULD be in shape. Being out of shape CAN affect their ability to train. Not once did I say a PT has to be in shape or they're incapable.
There is a big difference between "can" and "will". Many things can affect ability to train including things completely unrelated to fitness. I would rather go for "a good PT is one who knows how to train" rather than single out one single factor that may or may not be relevant.1 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »Yep. This has taken a weird turn. From "a PT must be in shape" (I still think they don't have to if they don't want to) to all kinds of irrelevant silliness.
Are you .....amused
I am actually. I'm more amused than insulting by fat shaming. I wonder why it happens and what mechanisms drive it.
I'm sure this is going to be another unpopular opinion but I think the nasty insults are ones you have no control over or are plain false. Race, sex, sexual orientation, cognitive function, etc are inexcusible. Fat, lazy...if it's true and what they say bothers you, change it! If it's not true or you don't care, why are we still talking about it?
Personally, I fat shame because it worked on me. I was fat and became so ashamed of it due to nicknames, comments etc that I actually did something about it. Sometimes the best helping hand is a swift kick in the @$$. Did it suck at the time? Yup. Now, I wouldn't change it for anything.
For the record, I'd never fat shame someone I don't know personally. I acknowledge that tough-love approach doesn't work for everyone. But it does work for some...there's this chef from the UK (I forget his name) that lost over 100lbs because his friend texted him "Fat F***" every morning.
I'd rather hear what I need to hear over what I want to hear 100% of the time.11 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »joemac1988 wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »Yep. This has taken a weird turn. From "a PT must be in shape" (I still think they don't have to if they don't want to and if it doesn't affect their ability to train) to all kinds of irrelevant silliness.
My opinion: A PT SHOULD be in shape. Being out of shape CAN affect their ability to train. Not once did I say a PT has to be in shape or they're incapable.
There is a big difference between "can" and "will". Many things can affect ability to train including things completely unrelated to fitness. I would rather go for "a good PT is one who knows how to train" rather than single out one single factor that may or may not be relevant.
I agree completely that knowing how to train is the single biggest factor. I also think that if you're out of shape it begs the question why? Lack of self respect, lack of drive, or is it application of your knowledge?2 -
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I don't really understand why @Tacklewasher wants to shoot those of us who so generously and selflessly volunteered for the Fruitcake Disposal Squad, though.
Exactly! We're eating the fruitcake so that nobody else has to worry about it. It's basically a public service!4 -
joemac1988 wrote: »Keywords here to remember are "unpopular" and "opinion".
This is why I posted. Of course, I thought I was being silly but others seem to hide behind the thread title.
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Not much on cake since I'm a pie guy but for this I'll make an exception! mmm, mmm
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joemac1988 wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »joemac1988 wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »Yep. This has taken a weird turn. From "a PT must be in shape" (I still think they don't have to if they don't want to and if it doesn't affect their ability to train) to all kinds of irrelevant silliness.
My opinion: A PT SHOULD be in shape. Being out of shape CAN affect their ability to train. Not once did I say a PT has to be in shape or they're incapable.
There is a big difference between "can" and "will". Many things can affect ability to train including things completely unrelated to fitness. I would rather go for "a good PT is one who knows how to train" rather than single out one single factor that may or may not be relevant.
I agree completely that knowing how to train is the single biggest factor. I also think that if you're out of shape it begs the question why? Lack of self respect, lack of drive, or is it application of your knowledge?
It could be any of these things, although different priorities is the most common answer. Weight lifting in particular is a sport where body weight is mostly irrelevant to skill level (hence the different weight categories in olympic lifting) so weight is rarely a factor in ability to train. It does affect the business side of things, though. That I'll give you.1 -
joemac1988 wrote: »Trainer's should be in shape. Having CPT after your name proves nothing. I've seen trainers that have credentials but are obese and have their clients do the most ridiculous exercises.
few pages back but figured id toss in my cousin who has a rediculous amount of university for all sorts of training to become a personal trainer -including medical training has went to so much school and internships he never had time to do alot of the exercising and healthy eating himself. Hes insanely qualified, And because he is hes getting more and more out of shape the more courses he takes.
So where i agree to a degree, Fitness really doesnt mean you know what your doing- And being out of shape or overweight doesnt mean you dont.1 -
JaydedMiss wrote: »joemac1988 wrote: »Trainer's should be in shape. Having CPT after your name proves nothing. I've seen trainers that have credentials but are obese and have their clients do the most ridiculous exercises.
few pages back but figured id toss in my cousin who has a rediculous amount of university for all sorts of training to become a personal trainer -including medical training has went to so much school and internships he never had time to do alot of the exercising and healthy eating himself. Hes insanely qualified, And because he is hes getting more and more out of shape the more courses he takes.
So where i agree to a degree, Fitness really doesnt mean you know what your doing- And being out of shape or overweight doesnt mean you dont.
This also applies to other things as well. I'm fat, but I'll brag I know more about weight loss and its strategies than some nutritionists.5 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »joemac1988 wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »joemac1988 wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »Yep. This has taken a weird turn. From "a PT must be in shape" (I still think they don't have to if they don't want to and if it doesn't affect their ability to train) to all kinds of irrelevant silliness.
My opinion: A PT SHOULD be in shape. Being out of shape CAN affect their ability to train. Not once did I say a PT has to be in shape or they're incapable.
There is a big difference between "can" and "will". Many things can affect ability to train including things completely unrelated to fitness. I would rather go for "a good PT is one who knows how to train" rather than single out one single factor that may or may not be relevant.
I agree completely that knowing how to train is the single biggest factor. I also think that if you're out of shape it begs the question why? Lack of self respect, lack of drive, or is it application of your knowledge?
It could be any of these things, although different priorities is the most common answer. Weight lifting in particular is a sport where body weight is mostly irrelevant to skill level (hence the different weight categories in olympic lifting) so weight is rarely a factor in ability to train. It does affect the business side of things, though. That I'll give you.
That's fine, but I'm not referring to weight, I'm talking about physical fitness.0 -
JaydedMiss wrote: »joemac1988 wrote: »Trainer's should be in shape. Having CPT after your name proves nothing. I've seen trainers that have credentials but are obese and have their clients do the most ridiculous exercises.
few pages back but figured id toss in my cousin who has a rediculous amount of university for all sorts of training to become a personal trainer -including medical training has went to so much school and internships he never had time to do alot of the exercising and healthy eating himself. Hes insanely qualified, And because he is hes getting more and more out of shape the more courses he takes.
So where i agree to a degree, Fitness really doesnt mean you know what your doing- And being out of shape or overweight doesnt mean you dont.
That is awesome and takes a lot of dedication. I just don't think knowledge alone of a subject qualifies you to teach it to others or the practical application, regardless what said subject is. Your cousin is absolutely an authority on what they've studied but that is only half of being a Personal Trainer. I'm not saying your cousin is unqualified, simply saying knowledge alone doesn't make one qualified.0 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »JaydedMiss wrote: »joemac1988 wrote: »Trainer's should be in shape. Having CPT after your name proves nothing. I've seen trainers that have credentials but are obese and have their clients do the most ridiculous exercises.
few pages back but figured id toss in my cousin who has a rediculous amount of university for all sorts of training to become a personal trainer -including medical training has went to so much school and internships he never had time to do alot of the exercising and healthy eating himself. Hes insanely qualified, And because he is hes getting more and more out of shape the more courses he takes.
So where i agree to a degree, Fitness really doesnt mean you know what your doing- And being out of shape or overweight doesnt mean you dont.
This also applies to other things as well. I'm fat, but I'll brag I know more about weight loss and its strategies than some nutritionists.
Disclaimer: I'm not calling you fat...I don't know you or know what you look like.
Do people take you seriously and come to you for advice? I don't ask this to be mean, honest question. The reason I ask is I used to be very fat and never had anyone ask me for advice. I've added muscle and lost fat and I get approached through social media and in person almost every day asking for help with meal plans, workout routines and so on.
I'm not attaching this to the opinion I stated regarding CPT's. I'm genuinely curious what the perception is that you encounter.1 -
joemac1988 wrote: »JaydedMiss wrote: »joemac1988 wrote: »Trainer's should be in shape. Having CPT after your name proves nothing. I've seen trainers that have credentials but are obese and have their clients do the most ridiculous exercises.
few pages back but figured id toss in my cousin who has a rediculous amount of university for all sorts of training to become a personal trainer -including medical training has went to so much school and internships he never had time to do alot of the exercising and healthy eating himself. Hes insanely qualified, And because he is hes getting more and more out of shape the more courses he takes.
So where i agree to a degree, Fitness really doesnt mean you know what your doing- And being out of shape or overweight doesnt mean you dont.
That is awesome and takes a lot of dedication. I just don't think knowledge alone of a subject qualifies you to teach it to others or the practical application, regardless what said subject is. Your cousin is absolutely an authority on what they've studied but that is only half of being a Personal Trainer. I'm not saying your cousin is unqualified, simply saying knowledge alone doesn't make one qualified.
Are you being specific for training or are you talking all fields of knowledge?
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joemac1988 wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »joemac1988 wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »Yep. This has taken a weird turn. From "a PT must be in shape" (I still think they don't have to if they don't want to and if it doesn't affect their ability to train) to all kinds of irrelevant silliness.
My opinion: A PT SHOULD be in shape. Being out of shape CAN affect their ability to train. Not once did I say a PT has to be in shape or they're incapable.
There is a big difference between "can" and "will". Many things can affect ability to train including things completely unrelated to fitness. I would rather go for "a good PT is one who knows how to train" rather than single out one single factor that may or may not be relevant.
I agree completely that knowing how to train is the single biggest factor. I also think that if you're out of shape it begs the question why? Lack of self respect, lack of drive, or is it application of your knowledge?
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piperdown44 wrote: »joemac1988 wrote: »JaydedMiss wrote: »joemac1988 wrote: »Trainer's should be in shape. Having CPT after your name proves nothing. I've seen trainers that have credentials but are obese and have their clients do the most ridiculous exercises.
few pages back but figured id toss in my cousin who has a rediculous amount of university for all sorts of training to become a personal trainer -including medical training has went to so much school and internships he never had time to do alot of the exercising and healthy eating himself. Hes insanely qualified, And because he is hes getting more and more out of shape the more courses he takes.
So where i agree to a degree, Fitness really doesnt mean you know what your doing- And being out of shape or overweight doesnt mean you dont.
That is awesome and takes a lot of dedication. I just don't think knowledge alone of a subject qualifies you to teach it to others or the practical application, regardless what said subject is. Your cousin is absolutely an authority on what they've studied but that is only half of being a Personal Trainer. I'm not saying your cousin is unqualified, simply saying knowledge alone doesn't make one qualified.
Are you being specific for training or are you talking all fields of knowledge?
Specifically about training but I think it would apply to some other fields of knowledge. Probably a poor example (thinking on the fly lol) but someone that knows everything there is to know about psychology from an education standpoint doesn't necessarily mean they'd be a good psychologist. I'm sure there would be plenty of exceptions to this though. What are you thinking?0
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