Opinions on 1,300 calories of junk food vs healthy food!

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  • OliveGirl128
    OliveGirl128 Posts: 801 Member
    @ElleHeart22, you've got lots of opinions and questions.... You asked the question originally, what are your thoughts?

    Hmm, well to answer all the questions of what I meant by junk food, I meant for you to fill in the blank of whatever you think junk food is. Everyone has their own thoughts as far as what is junk and what is good. As far as me, I consider eating out, sweets, and empty carbs like potato chips and such to be junk food. Things that I might eat and the next day feel sluggish or be retaining a lot of water.

    I try to avoid junk food because I feel worse from it and look worse as far as puffiness in my face from water retention. Since I avoid it most of the time it's hard for me to tell if it affects my weight or not hence my asking of everyone else's opinion. Mostly I was putting this in the category of how does it affect weight loss, obviously as @Francl27 said no one should eat junk food all the time, they are right it is a duh, but when you put it into the category of how much junk food you eat and the results of weight loss, it's a different equation.

    Thanks for the answers everybody! You've filled my curiosity.

    I don't label food and I believe that's one of the reasons why I've been so successful at this whole thing.

    For what it's worth I lost 50lbs and improved all my health markers while still eating fast food, sweets and then things like potato chips :)
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    @ElleHeart22, you've got lots of opinions and questions.... You asked the question originally, what are your thoughts?

    Hmm, well to answer all the questions of what I meant by junk food, I meant for you to fill in the blank of whatever you think junk food is. Everyone has their own thoughts as far as what is junk and what is good. As far as me, I consider eating out, sweets, and empty carbs like potato chips and such to be junk food. Things that I might eat and the next day feel sluggish or be retaining a lot of water.

    This makes the question hard to answer, though. I don't eat foods that make me feel bad (well, most of the time), but I wouldn't agree that "eating out" = junk food. I can eat out and get something as nutrient dense (often higher cal, but that's the point of fitting it in) as anything else I'd eat. I could have steak and vegetables, Ethiopian food (great ideas about how to cook vegetables), farm-focused cuisine with interesting combinations and seasonal ideas, so on.

    Sweets, well, all sweets wouldn't be a good idea and I don't think anyone would be too interested in that, but is having 200 cals of ice cream after dinner occasionally or a square of dark chocolate or a homemade rhubarb crisp or peach pudding cake (another MFPer just sent me a recipe I'm excited to try) going to make me feel bad? No.

    Pet peeve of mine is thinking of chips as "empty carbs" -- they are potatoes (which I eat quite often when not low carbing as roasted potatoes are extremely filling for me) plus oil. They ARE high cal for how filling they are, but that's more because of the oil (and the salt is what makes them hard not to overeat for me). There's one lunch place here that gives a serving of 150 cals of housemade chips and while I rarely have chips that's a nice occasional treat and has never made me feel bad. Would I make a diet of 1300 calories of chips? Of course not!

    I would agree that the issue is how much so-called junk, but for me that's a backwards way of asking the question. Instead I'd focus on getting in a good diet of nutrient dense foods and then using the extra calories (to the extent there are any) for, well, extras, whether it's cheese or a bit more olive oil or some sweets or having chicken with skin and some bacon vs. just lean meat, so on. Assuming that some foods are "not junk" (so good in all amounts) and others "junk" (so best not to have) isn't an approach that works for me. I think a broader look at the diet makes more sense.
  • JustRobby1
    JustRobby1 Posts: 674 Member
    This is simple to reconcile. All you really need to know is that calories in vs. calories out always applies, regardless of the type of food consumed.

    Since 1300 calories is a weight loss diet for the vast majority of people out there, if you consume only this amount per day, you will lose weight, even if it's 1300 calories per day worth of Cool Ranch Dorrittos, Ho-Ho's and Chicken McNuggets with BBQ sauce.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,879 Member
    What's everyone's opinion here? I'm curious. A lot of people think quality doesn't matter as long as you create a deficit in your diet, others thing it really does matter. Tell me what you think!

    My opinion is that it's kind of a stupid this or that comparison because nobody is really going to just eat junk food...eat a well balanced diet consisting of lots of whole, nutrient dense foods...have some "junk" once in awhile. The context of your overall diet is what matters.
  • Tayykisses
    Tayykisses Posts: 265 Member
    Francl27 wrote: »
    I really don't understand how anyone with half a brain can even ask that. Eating only junk food is never going to be healthy. How is that even a consideration for anyone?

    There was no reason for being rude. It was a question, not an opening for you're rude remarks
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,879 Member
    Tayykisses wrote: »
    Francl27 wrote: »
    I really don't understand how anyone with half a brain can even ask that. Eating only junk food is never going to be healthy. How is that even a consideration for anyone?

    There was no reason for being rude. It was a question, not an opening for you're rude remarks

    she has a point though...
  • Momepro
    Momepro Posts: 1,509 Member
    edited July 2017
    Again?
    If you eat only crap, but have a deficit you will lose weight. You will probably feel like crap, and hungrier faster since junk food tends to have higher calores but be less filling, and not have all the nutrients your body needs. But you will still lose weight.

    That is of course NOT the suggested course here. I have not personally seen a single post where anyone advocates that junk food only is a HEALTHY diet. (This may be because I get bored several posts in and go away, but I doubt it happens often) Most sane people here will suggest that a few goodies now and again won't hurt you, as long as you budget in more of the healthier, nutrient dense and satisfyingly filling stuff first. Stay in your calorie budget, but don't deprive yourself of moderate amounts of the treats.
  • amusedmonkey
    amusedmonkey Posts: 10,330 Member
    It's simple, really. Eat in a way that makes you feel good and helps you achieve your goals. If you care about losing/gaining/maintaining weight keep an appropriate calorie balance. If you care about nutrition eat a varied diet with plenty of nutrient rich foods. For some, eating what you define as junk makes them feel good, can fit into their calories, and can be a part of a nutritious diet. Others may have different preferences and food habits conducive to their own success. Do what helps you succeed long term, whatever that is.

    Personally, I eat a lot of vegetables but I also eat sweets and fast food occasionally when I feel like it. It doesn't make me feel bad in any way and I'm desensitized to weight fluctuations, so in my case eating junk sometimes is a good thing that is conducive to my success. That's how I've always eaten and that's how I want to keep eating.