Wheat Belly
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pumasareace wrote: »geneticsteacher wrote: »"2. Italians die of exactly the same illnesses as the population of the USA, these are caused by lifestyle which in no small part comes down to diet. #1 cause - Heart Disease (excess carbs), #2 Stroke (high blood pressure), #4 Hypertension (excess salt, carbs), #5 Alzheimers (lack of healthy fats), #6 Diabetes (excess carbs), #8 Colo-rectal cancer (lack of digestive health) #10 pancreatic cancer (Obesity, diabetes, lack of vitamin absorbtion). Looking at the UK and USA is a very similar story with an almost identical age spread. You are correct about the cause of death for younger people being through smoking."
In all the years I taught nutrition and after multiple conversations with a cardiologist at The Cleveland Clinic, I can find no evidence that excess carbs cause heart disease.
HRT for menopausal women, Thalidomide in pregnancy, electric shocks for mental illness, no kissing of newborn babies were all once taught. Science is a beautiful thing as it constantly evolves and changes.
High carbohydrate diet is a positive CVD risk factor because it is related with insulin resistance, poor circulation, abdominal fat distribution, high plasma triglycerides level, low HDL cholesterol and oxidative stress. This is high school biology stuff that I am sure they teach at nutrition school.
https://www.diabetes.co.uk/in-depth/carbs-higher-risk-heart-disease-states-leading-cardiologist-dr-salim-yusuf/
https://www.sott.net/article/242516-Heart-surgeon-speaks-out-on-what-really-causes-heart-disease
http://bjsm.bmj.com/content/early/2017/03/31/bjsports-2016-097285
https://thenoakesfoundation.org/news/blog/the-low-fat-diet-does-not-prevent-arterial-disease-it-causes-it-prof-noakes
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17093250
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19506174
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16287956
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26178720
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25178568
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29178536
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/106/1/35
http://jn.nutrition.org/content/147/7/1267.abstract?sid=4a3383f9-048b-4040-9f09-d41ebaf08d72
http://bjsm.bmj.com/content/51/10/769
https://www.docsopinion.com/2017/06/13/low-fat-high-carb-insulin-resistance-fatty-liver/
http://www.cochrane.org/CD005051/VASC_whole-grain-cereals-cardiovascular-disease
http://bjsm.bmj.com/content/bjsports/51/2/133.full.pdf
http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(17)32252-3/fulltext
http://annals.org/aim/article-abstract/1900694/effects-low-carbohydrate-low-fat-diets-randomized-trial?doi=10.7326/M14-0180
http://bjsm.bmj.com/content/51/15/1111
You can Google the rest. I am not sure where you learnt about nutrition in order to teach people, but I think your knowledge of how the body works is a little out-dated, misunderstood and scary if you are teaching others.
Have you read and understood these studies? If so, which studies demonstrate your hypothesis that carbs increase the risk to 1 - 10 (because there is NOT one single organization that links carbs to diabetes) and how are they delineating between increases to poor metabolic health driven by carbs vs obesity, lack of exercises and genetics? Because if you look at the healthiest places in the world, and the most regarded diets, they are largely carb and plant based; as noted, look at the blue zones, Mediterranean diet and plant based diets.
At best, most of your links support replacing carbs with plant based MUFA as a means to improve health; which this demonstrates that certain fats improve health and not that carbs are bad. In fact, it's very well known and not disputed that foods like oily fish (rich in Omega-3), avocado's and nuts, and olive oil are all linked improved health markers. But the same can be said about fruits, veggies and oats/whole grains.
You and @lemurcat12 are amazing human beings!
I looked at that post and went, sod it, lifes too short.6 -
The joys of a teething 1 year old in the small hours and nothing else to do0
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pumasareace wrote: »The joys of a teething 1 year old in the small hours and nothing else to do
Sorry about the kiddo, but did you care to respond to the people who took time to review your links and posed some well thought out questions?7 -
georgyporcupine wrote: »I bought it... Have yet to read it... I really like pizza though so probably just not gonna read it
Darn straight! Pizza is life!1 -
pumasareace wrote: »The joys of a teething 1 year old in the small hours and nothing else to do
I got time as well, i have a 2 year old and 3 week old. And i am off work for a few weeks9 -
pumasareace wrote: »The joys of a teething 1 year old in the small hours and nothing else to do
I got time as well, i have a 2 year old and 3 week old. And i am off work for a few weeks
Off topic but congrats on the new bebe!8 -
I have celiac and had to stop eating gluten 14 years ago. It sucked. There weren't great alternatives then, and I kept trying to eat gluten hoping it was all just a myth, or a misunderstanding, but it was definitely not.
About 5 years ago someone was talking to my mom about the " dangers of wheat," and my mom assumed it had to do with an allergy and mentioned that I was gluten-free. The conversation got weird. She told us all about this book, and asked me how much weight I'd lost on my "diet." I borrowed the book from someone to see if it had any useful information, and I concluded quickly that it did not.
I would never have chosen to give up gluten if it wasn't medically necessary. The reason I felt so much better when I stopped eating gluten was because my body cannot process it. I personally believe that if you don't have a reason to stop eating wheat, it isn't worth it.4 -
WinoGelato wrote: »pumasareace wrote: »The joys of a teething 1 year old in the small hours and nothing else to do
I got time as well, i have a 2 year old and 3 week old. And i am off work for a few weeks
Off topic but congrats on the new bebe!
There's a picture in the refeeds thread, she's adorable!0 -
livisuzanne wrote: »I have celiac and had to stop eating gluten 14 years ago. It sucked. There weren't great alternatives then, and I kept trying to eat gluten hoping it was all just a myth, or a misunderstanding, but it was definitely not.
About 5 years ago someone was talking to my mom about the " dangers of wheat," and my mom assumed it had to do with an allergy and mentioned that I was gluten-free. The conversation got weird. She told us all about this book, and asked me how much weight I'd lost on my "diet." I borrowed the book from someone to see if it had any useful information, and I concluded quickly that it did not.
I would never have chosen to give up gluten if it wasn't medically necessary. The reason I felt so much better when I stopped eating gluten was because my body cannot process it. I personally believe that if you don't have a reason to stop eating wheat, it isn't worth it.
I was diagnosed 20 years ago. I feel you on how hard being gluten free used to be back then.
It's funny, I don't avail myself much of the alternatives now, having come to find that life is much better eating foods that are inherently gluten free. What I do appreciate is the increased awareness, and the greater likelihood of there being clear labeling on cross-contaminated products that should be gluten free (like nuts processed on shared equipment).
I agree with you completely. It would not be a choice of mine to give up gluten if it weren't a medical necessity.
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suzannesimmons3 wrote: »livisuzanne wrote: »I have celiac and had to stop eating gluten 14 years ago. It sucked. There weren't great alternatives then, and I kept trying to eat gluten hoping it was all just a myth, or a misunderstanding, but it was definitely not.
About 5 years ago someone was talking to my mom about the " dangers of wheat," and my mom assumed it had to do with an allergy and mentioned that I was gluten-free. The conversation got weird. She told us all about this book, and asked me how much weight I'd lost on my "diet." I borrowed the book from someone to see if it had any useful information, and I concluded quickly that it did not.
I would never have chosen to give up gluten if it wasn't medically necessary. The reason I felt so much better when I stopped eating gluten was because my body cannot process it. I personally believe that if you don't have a reason to stop eating wheat, it isn't worth it.
And no matter how hard they try the replacement foods are just odd at best and dire at worst.
That's why I don't bother! There are a few breakfast cereals that I eat, but there are gluteny versions of the same kind (like Rice Krispies, for example) that are just merely made with one ingredient that's easily swapped out or something that's on the order of Kix that's made instead on dedicated equipment. Those don't suffer for being gluten free.0 -
I didn't know it was specifically wheat causing the health problems I was trying to fix (painful stomach bloating, throbbing joints, immense fatigue) until trying a low-glycemic diet (based on some other self-help book advice). Turned out a small amount of pasta (was allowed in that diet mixed with other stuff to temper the glycemic load) made me sick, while my body had absolutely no issue with massive amounts of creme brulee (ie sugar)(not allowed on said test diet, but I had made creme brulee in bulk for a dinner party and have no self control). (My skin and sinuses also improved immensely - and these I hadn't been trying to fix with the diet change). If you have some health issues where the symptoms are potentially food intolerance/allergy-caused, then it won't hurt to try an elimination diet and see if they go away). I definitely wouldn't have cut them out if they didn't make me physically suffer. I'm thankfully not so sensitive - after a while I could have smaller amounts without issue (as long as I watch the frequency with which I do it). Bagels and dense chewy breads (ie the stuff that a higher gluten content makes way better) I have to pretty much avoid - even half a bagel = minor symptoms, a full bagel = significant discomfort/pain.0
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