Anyone Else "Overweight" on the BMI Chart but Healthy, Active, Happy and not Really "Overweight"
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tirowow12385 wrote: »I read somewhere online last year that people who are overweight according to the BMI chart lived longer than those in the healthy range.
That study only looks at BMI at the time of death. Many people who die due to illness lose weight before they pass. The study also does not measure health or quality of life. Modern medicine has allowes us to live longer despite the abuse we put our bodies through.
Don't like the fact that overweight people live longer than healthy BMI people huh? Lol.
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tirowow12385 wrote: »tirowow12385 wrote: »I read somewhere online last year that people who are overweight according to the BMI chart lived longer than those in the healthy range.
That study only looks at BMI at the time of death. Many people who die due to illness lose weight before they pass. The study also does not measure health or quality of life. Modern medicine has allowes us to live longer despite the abuse we put our bodies through.
Don't like the fact that overweight people live longer than healthy BMI people huh? Lol.
Just pointing out the major flaw in the study. The study also did not take in account of cause of death either.
You can create a study to tell any story you want to as long as you limit controls and tell half truths.
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tirowow12385 wrote: »tirowow12385 wrote: »I read somewhere online last year that people who are overweight according to the BMI chart lived longer than those in the healthy range.
That study only looks at BMI at the time of death. Many people who die due to illness lose weight before they pass. The study also does not measure health or quality of life. Modern medicine has allowes us to live longer despite the abuse we put our bodies through.
Don't like the fact that overweight people live longer than healthy BMI people huh? Lol.
Just pointing out the major flaw in the study. The study also did not take in account of cause of death either.
You can create a study to tell any story you want to as long as you limit controls and tell half truths.tirowow12385 wrote: »tirowow12385 wrote: »I read somewhere online last year that people who are overweight according to the BMI chart lived longer than those in the healthy range.
That study only looks at BMI at the time of death. Many people who die due to illness lose weight before they pass. The study also does not measure health or quality of life. Modern medicine has allowes us to live longer despite the abuse we put our bodies through.
Don't like the fact that overweight people live longer than healthy BMI people huh? Lol.
Just pointing out the major flaw in the study. The study also did not take in account of cause of death either.
You can create a study to tell any story you want to as long as you limit controls and tell half truths.
It's not a flaw though and it's not relevant that they check the BMI during death and if the case is that people lost weight and reach overweight category at the time of death then you basically said obese people became overweight at the time of death after going through an illness and they lived the longest which is highly improbable, it is what it is, overweight people lived longer due to less health complications than obese people and apparently people with ideal BMI, it makes sense, the body has evolved to carry some fat at all times in case of famine, it's a survival trait passed down by your ancestors that you probably don't need today in a first world country abundant with food but nonetheless it's a biological fact and being overweight is actually ideal as you have a little bit of fat for famine which the body finds ideal.
The BMI chart is not an end all and be all and needs to be revised and updated. A chart is majorly flawed when alot of healthy people can't fit into the ideal range because their body knows better or they have too much muscles, whatever and refused to lose extra weight as it's actually not healthy, the ideal range of the BMI chart as it is is useful for elite endurance runners only, lol. Their lanky body types usually fit in that range.
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tirowow12385 wrote: »tirowow12385 wrote: »tirowow12385 wrote: »I read somewhere online last year that people who are overweight according to the BMI chart lived longer than those in the healthy range.
That study only looks at BMI at the time of death. Many people who die due to illness lose weight before they pass. The study also does not measure health or quality of life. Modern medicine has allowes us to live longer despite the abuse we put our bodies through.
Don't like the fact that overweight people live longer than healthy BMI people huh? Lol.
Just pointing out the major flaw in the study. The study also did not take in account of cause of death either.
You can create a study to tell any story you want to as long as you limit controls and tell half truths.tirowow12385 wrote: »tirowow12385 wrote: »I read somewhere online last year that people who are overweight according to the BMI chart lived longer than those in the healthy range.
That study only looks at BMI at the time of death. Many people who die due to illness lose weight before they pass. The study also does not measure health or quality of life. Modern medicine has allowes us to live longer despite the abuse we put our bodies through.
Don't like the fact that overweight people live longer than healthy BMI people huh? Lol.
Just pointing out the major flaw in the study. The study also did not take in account of cause of death either.
You can create a study to tell any story you want to as long as you limit controls and tell half truths.
It's not a flaw though and it's not relevant that they check the BMI during death and if the case is that people lost weight and reach overweight category at the time of death then you basically said obese people became overweight at the time of death after going through an illness and they lived the longest which is highly improbable, it is what it is, overweight people lived longer due to less health complications than obese people and apparently people with ideal BMI, it makes sense, the body has evolved to carry some fat at all times in case of famine, it's a survival trait passed down by your ancestors that you probably don't need today in a first world country abundant with food but nonetheless it's a biological fact and being overweight is actually ideal as you have a little bit of fat for famine which the body finds ideal.
The BMI chart is not an end all and be all and needs to be revised and updated. A chart is majorly flawed when alot of healthy people can't fit into the ideal range because their body knows better or they have too much muscles, whatever and refused to lose extra weight as it's actually not healthy, the ideal range of the BMI chart as it is is useful for elite endurance runners only, lol. Their lanky body types usually fit in that range.
This is so unnecessarily weird.9 -
Too bad, hope I didn't upset you lol.8 -
I don't know if it should be as upsetting to either side.
It is a _fact_ that several studies regarding bmi and longevity point to a RANGE of BMI that spans the mid normal to mid overweight range.
I find it interesting that the center of these ranges (24 to 28) seems to top out at around what USED to be the top end of the National Institutes of Health BMI normal range (27.8 for men and 27.3 for women) prior to 1998.
Back then the WHO considered a BMI of 19.9 to be under-weight while normal BMI for the WHO was in the 20 to 24.9 range.
As has been discussed several times around here BMI offers quick insight in the majority of cases but it doesn't provide the only answer all of the time.
In a similar manner, dismissing BMI longevity findings at a BMI that is higher than what is currently considered normal OR considering the longevity findings without also considering the underlying quality of life they represent are both disingenuous.
Some of the numbers I am discussing I found in: https://journals.lww.com/nutritiontodayonline/Fulltext/2015/05000/Body_Mass_Index__Obesity,_BMI,_and_Health_A.5.aspx
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