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  • quiksylver296quiksylver296 Member Posts: 26,944 Member Member Posts: 26,944 Member
    I've never used one of those. I went looking for reviews (outside of the inbody website) and found this. It looks like your 5.9% is well within the possible statistical anomaly. You could have actually also gained up to 2.1% muscle mass because of the error rate swing.

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  • steveko89steveko89 Member Posts: 1,653 Member Member Posts: 1,653 Member
    dbanks80 wrote: »
    steveko89 wrote: »
    dbanks80 wrote: »
    Did anyone else lose Muscle Mass since the quarantine? I lost 5.9 lbs. My gym just opened this week. It was shocking to see and I know I can get it back but it sucks to lose it after all the hard work I put in!! :/

    Lost muscle is more easily regained than built initially. Depending on methodology, take body fat assessment with a grain of salt. Some devices used by gyms are dubious at best.

    I agree with @steveko89. My first thought was "I bet you haven't lost that much," @dbanks80. How did they measure your muscle mass?

    On that In-Body Analysis machine. Like my BF went up and MM went down.

    Which is interesting because when I lift I still have the strength. Granted my muscles are SORE as HECK!

    Inbody-style scanners are subject to wide variation due to hydration and other factors. If my understanding of the technology is correct it will attribute retained glycogen as muscle mass due to conductivity. If you've not lost any strength I would doubt you've actually lost that much muscle and being down on glycogen from not lifting (probably 2-3 lbs based on my experience) would display as lost muscle via standard BIA scanners.
  • dbanks80dbanks80 Member Posts: 3,604 Member Member Posts: 3,604 Member
    I've never used one of those. I went looking for reviews (outside of the inbody website) and found this. It looks like your 5.9% is well within the possible statistical anomaly. You could have actually also gained up to 2.1% muscle mass because of the error rate swing.

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    Ok thanks for this info!! I was way up on water retention!!! And my trainer did say water retention plays a part!!

    Thanks to you as well @steveko89! This is all great information!
  • psuLemonpsuLemon Member, MFP Moderator, Greeter, Premium Posts: 36,493 MFP Moderator Member, MFP Moderator, Greeter, Premium Posts: 36,493 MFP Moderator
    Just an update. I am have been consistently up 3-4 lbs lately. I think its injury related as mu back has been giving me issues. But i still look as lean as i did when i was at 164.
  • sardelsasardelsa Member Posts: 9,462 Member Member Posts: 9,462 Member
    I am feeling le lost as usual. This sometimes happens after I have been doing the same thing for a while. But I am not too happy with my body composition so something has to change. Recomp is working, that is for sure. My waist is smaller, tighter, loose skin is getting better. However not happy with my lower half. Arg. I am going to take a break then switch programming. I might do a small cut (which I would never recommend to someone with my stats but in my case with my goals and experience I feel like I know how to handle it). I don't even know if I want to bulk in the fall... I will have to see what I am working with then decide. Maybe I will change my mind again.

    I hate not having clear goals. I am all over the place. :(
  • KHMcGKHMcG Member Posts: 685 Member Member Posts: 685 Member
    @sardelsa maybe a performance goal or fitness skill instead of body shaping?
  • sardelsasardelsa Member Posts: 9,462 Member Member Posts: 9,462 Member
    KHMcG wrote: »
    @sardelsa maybe a performance goal or fitness skill instead of body shaping?

    @KHMcG while I don't think I could ever switch focus entirely, I was thinking of getting back into yoga. I am going to see what I can do and maybe I can redirect for a while. Thanks!
  • psuLemonpsuLemon Member, MFP Moderator, Greeter, Premium Posts: 36,493 MFP Moderator Member, MFP Moderator, Greeter, Premium Posts: 36,493 MFP Moderator
    sardelsa wrote: »
    I am feeling le lost as usual. This sometimes happens after I have been doing the same thing for a while. But I am not too happy with my body composition so something has to change. Recomp is working, that is for sure. My waist is smaller, tighter, loose skin is getting better. However not happy with my lower half. Arg. I am going to take a break then switch programming. I might do a small cut (which I would never recommend to someone with my stats but in my case with my goals and experience I feel like I know how to handle it). I don't even know if I want to bulk in the fall... I will have to see what I am working with then decide. Maybe I will change my mind again.

    I hate not having clear goals. I am all over the place. :(

    I feel you on that. I feel like I am spinning my wheels. The crap part is, I was hoping to hit my goals by my birthday in a few weeks, but that isn't going to happen.

    I am on a two day refeed to see if that helps with my injuries. I am also going to need to increase some core work and flexibility training as it seemed to be the only thing that helped my injuries.
  • sardelsasardelsa Member Posts: 9,462 Member Member Posts: 9,462 Member
    psuLemon wrote: »
    sardelsa wrote: »
    I am feeling le lost as usual. This sometimes happens after I have been doing the same thing for a while. But I am not too happy with my body composition so something has to change. Recomp is working, that is for sure. My waist is smaller, tighter, loose skin is getting better. However not happy with my lower half. Arg. I am going to take a break then switch programming. I might do a small cut (which I would never recommend to someone with my stats but in my case with my goals and experience I feel like I know how to handle it). I don't even know if I want to bulk in the fall... I will have to see what I am working with then decide. Maybe I will change my mind again.

    I hate not having clear goals. I am all over the place. :(

    I feel you on that. I feel like I am spinning my wheels. The crap part is, I was hoping to hit my goals by my birthday in a few weeks, but that isn't going to happen.

    I am on a two day refeed to see if that helps with my injuries. I am also going to need to increase some core work and flexibility training as it seemed to be the only thing that helped my injuries.


    Oh no re: the injuries, hopefully you recover soon!
  • psuLemonpsuLemon Member, MFP Moderator, Greeter, Premium Posts: 36,493 MFP Moderator Member, MFP Moderator, Greeter, Premium Posts: 36,493 MFP Moderator
    sardelsa wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    sardelsa wrote: »
    I am feeling le lost as usual. This sometimes happens after I have been doing the same thing for a while. But I am not too happy with my body composition so something has to change. Recomp is working, that is for sure. My waist is smaller, tighter, loose skin is getting better. However not happy with my lower half. Arg. I am going to take a break then switch programming. I might do a small cut (which I would never recommend to someone with my stats but in my case with my goals and experience I feel like I know how to handle it). I don't even know if I want to bulk in the fall... I will have to see what I am working with then decide. Maybe I will change my mind again.

    I hate not having clear goals. I am all over the place. :(

    I feel you on that. I feel like I am spinning my wheels. The crap part is, I was hoping to hit my goals by my birthday in a few weeks, but that isn't going to happen.

    I am on a two day refeed to see if that helps with my injuries. I am also going to need to increase some core work and flexibility training as it seemed to be the only thing that helped my injuries.


    Oh no re: the injuries, hopefully you recover soon!

    Thanks. It's my back again. I need to go to an orthopedic.
  • StargazerBStargazerB Member Posts: 395 Member Member Posts: 395 Member
    sardelsa wrote: »
    I am feeling le lost as usual. This sometimes happens after I have been doing the same thing for a while. But I am not too happy with my body composition so something has to change. Recomp is working, that is for sure. My waist is smaller, tighter, loose skin is getting better. However not happy with my lower half. Arg. I am going to take a break then switch programming. I might do a small cut (which I would never recommend to someone with my stats but in my case with my goals and experience I feel like I know how to handle it). I don't even know if I want to bulk in the fall... I will have to see what I am working with then decide. Maybe I will change my mind again.

    I hate not having clear goals. I am all over the place. :(

    I feel like I've been all over the place for the last year! I hope you give yourself some love and know that it's ok to not know exactly where to go next. Just keep moving!
  • StargazerBStargazerB Member Posts: 395 Member Member Posts: 395 Member
    psuLemon wrote: »
    sardelsa wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    sardelsa wrote: »
    I am feeling le lost as usual. This sometimes happens after I have been doing the same thing for a while. But I am not too happy with my body composition so something has to change. Recomp is working, that is for sure. My waist is smaller, tighter, loose skin is getting better. However not happy with my lower half. Arg. I am going to take a break then switch programming. I might do a small cut (which I would never recommend to someone with my stats but in my case with my goals and experience I feel like I know how to handle it). I don't even know if I want to bulk in the fall... I will have to see what I am working with then decide. Maybe I will change my mind again.

    I hate not having clear goals. I am all over the place. :(

    I feel you on that. I feel like I am spinning my wheels. The crap part is, I was hoping to hit my goals by my birthday in a few weeks, but that isn't going to happen.

    I am on a two day refeed to see if that helps with my injuries. I am also going to need to increase some core work and flexibility training as it seemed to be the only thing that helped my injuries.


    Oh no re: the injuries, hopefully you recover soon!

    Thanks. It's my back again. I need to go to an orthopedic.

    I feel you, I have recurring back issues. I went to an identified orthopedic doctor last week and started physical therapy this week. Hopefully it will help. I hope your back feels better soon.
  • sardelsasardelsa Member Posts: 9,462 Member Member Posts: 9,462 Member
    StargazerB wrote: »
    sardelsa wrote: »
    I am feeling le lost as usual. This sometimes happens after I have been doing the same thing for a while. But I am not too happy with my body composition so something has to change. Recomp is working, that is for sure. My waist is smaller, tighter, loose skin is getting better. However not happy with my lower half. Arg. I am going to take a break then switch programming. I might do a small cut (which I would never recommend to someone with my stats but in my case with my goals and experience I feel like I know how to handle it). I don't even know if I want to bulk in the fall... I will have to see what I am working with then decide. Maybe I will change my mind again.

    I hate not having clear goals. I am all over the place. :(

    I feel like I've been all over the place for the last year! I hope you give yourself some love and know that it's ok to not know exactly where to go next. Just keep moving!

    Thank you! Same to you 😊
  • steveko89steveko89 Member Posts: 1,653 Member Member Posts: 1,653 Member
    I hope everyone dealing with injuries recovers quickly. I've been having a very minor issue with my left shoulder/pec that's exacerbated most by yawning of all things. I've been able to lift pain-free but I've backed off on weight as a precaution, keeping everything in the 8-12 rep range instead of the low rep/middle rep/ hypertrophy rep splits I had been doing.

    I purchased a Kabuki Strength Shoulderok a while ago and it finally arrived yesterday. It's a long loadable mace intended to improve shoulder strength and mobility. I had time to do a little with it this morning and it's definitely going to have a steeper learning curve than I would've thought but I'm excited to get going with using it.

    The Mrs. is going to get back to lifting after having stopped a few months ago. She's wanting something a little more aesthetics-driven so I'll basically have her do StrongCurves modded for our equipment.

    Much like Psulemon, I've bounced around for the last two weeks but stayed right around 173 on average and hit 172.0 this morning and I feel leaning than I have in a while.

  • psuLemonpsuLemon Member, MFP Moderator, Greeter, Premium Posts: 36,493 MFP Moderator Member, MFP Moderator, Greeter, Premium Posts: 36,493 MFP Moderator
    It was Dr. Atiga that suggested carbs are like rocket fuel. I am going to agree. After 750g the past two days, my gym session was great today. Some soreness going away, so maybe the extra carbs and flexibility training is helping.
  • steveko89steveko89 Member Posts: 1,653 Member Member Posts: 1,653 Member
    psuLemon wrote: »
    It was Dr. Atiga that suggested carbs are like rocket fuel. I am going to agree. After 750g the past two days, my gym session was great today. Some soreness going away, so maybe the extra carbs and flexibility training is helping.

    Is that 750g/day or total over those two days?
  • psuLemonpsuLemon Member, MFP Moderator, Greeter, Premium Posts: 36,493 MFP Moderator Member, MFP Moderator, Greeter, Premium Posts: 36,493 MFP Moderator
    steveko89 wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    It was Dr. Atiga that suggested carbs are like rocket fuel. I am going to agree. After 750g the past two days, my gym session was great today. Some soreness going away, so maybe the extra carbs and flexibility training is helping.

    Is that 750g/day or total over those two days?

    Two days. I generally aim for 400g and around 150-170g protein on my refeed days
  • watts6151watts6151 Member, Premium Posts: 677 Member Member, Premium Posts: 677 Member
    psuLemon wrote: »
    steveko89 wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    It was Dr. Atiga that suggested carbs are like rocket fuel. I am going to agree. After 750g the past two days, my gym session was great today. Some soreness going away, so maybe the extra carbs and flexibility training is helping.

    Is that 750g/day or total over those two days?

    Two days. I generally aim for 400g and around 150-170g protein on my refeed days

    I’ve always found training in keto utter misery
    Compared to fully carbed up
  • sardelsasardelsa Member Posts: 9,462 Member Member Posts: 9,462 Member
    psuLemon wrote: »
    It was Dr. Atiga that suggested carbs are like rocket fuel. I am going to agree. After 750g the past two days, my gym session was great today. Some soreness going away, so maybe the extra carbs and flexibility training is helping.

    Yay for all the carbs! Is this going to be a regular thing or are you still rocking the keto?


    I think I have figured things out. I have been taking an entire WEEK off lifting (omg I am going crazy) but it is very helpful for me. Starting fresh on Monday... a bit of lifting, yoga, sticking with recomp or a slight deficit...hopefully it works!
  • steveko89steveko89 Member Posts: 1,653 Member Member Posts: 1,653 Member
    sardelsa wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    It was Dr. Atiga that suggested carbs are like rocket fuel. I am going to agree. After 750g the past two days, my gym session was great today. Some soreness going away, so maybe the extra carbs and flexibility training is helping.

    Yay for all the carbs! Is this going to be a regular thing or are you still rocking the keto?


    I think I have figured things out. I have been taking an entire WEEK off lifting (omg I am going crazy) but it is very helpful for me. Starting fresh on Monday... a bit of lifting, yoga, sticking with recomp or a slight deficit...hopefully it works!

    Idk I could fathom taking a whole week at this point of my degenerate addiction. That week I had to travel for work I could only do bodyweight stuff in my hotel room but made sure I was up early enough to lift before my flight on Monday and luckily came back Thursday night so I could lift on Friday too.
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