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  • lemurcat2lemurcat2 Member Posts: 5,938 Member Member Posts: 5,938 Member
    jquedal wrote: »
    The healthiest, longest-living populations on earth consistently eat around 15% of their calories from protein. Excess protein in the diet is also associated with problems with your kidneys, liver, and bones-not to mention heart disease, cancer, bad breath, constipation, weight gain, systemic inflammation etc.

    If this is supposed to mean that one needs substantially less than the DRI, it's not a good argument, since based on percentages. The 44g I mentioned, at a maintenance diet for me, would be around 8% for me when I'm active, and still under 10% at the activity level I've fallen into in the Covid era.

    15% also is typically much higher than the DRI, which is why I gave my numbers above, and this is especially true because the blue zone populations tend to be reasonably active and have many, many other things different about their diets and lifestyles. Poor evidence indeed!

    Similarly, people sometimes make a big deal about Kenyan marathoners eating about 10% protein, but that's not low protein at their cals and body weight.
    No, I am not recommending that anyone consume less than their DRI, and no, following a high protein diet for a short period of time is not likely to cause permanent problems (although it *can*) but a high protein diet, for extended periods of time is associated with negative health outcomes. So while it may benefit you and your goals in the short term, in the long term it will most definitely not benefit someone to be eating huge amounts of protein.

    Oh, okay, then not really relevant to what I said.

    I will say that I've read a bunch of the anti protein stuff and the pro WFPB stuff, and I think none of it is all that convincing as there are always many other factors that would likely make a difference (including, yes, the source of protein).

    I also don't think 15-20% of my diet in protein (that's what the 0.6-0.8 g/lb that is usually recommended for muscle-maintenance/building and that I tend to prefer is for me at maintenance) would reasonably be considered HIGH protein.
    How you feel satiety-wise will not effect how protein affects your body metabolically.

    Not sure what you mean "metabolically"? You mean it won't help you be healthier? To the contrary, if more protein helps someone more easily maintain a healthy weight and they otherwise eat a balanced healthy diet with plenty of veg and fruit and healthy fats, etc., then it certainly can and does help that person be healthier.

    For example, I like to run. There are healthier forms of exercise (in terms of overall risk and outcomes, including just stuff like needing knee replacements as one gets older), but I like running and so running makes it easier for me to be healthy.
    edited October 19
  • VeryKatieVeryKatie Member Posts: 5,790 Member Member Posts: 5,790 Member
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    We always had German potato salad with bacon, vinegar, and mustard (no mayo), and I love it.

    That sounds good... do you have the recipe?
  • VeryKatieVeryKatie Member Posts: 5,790 Member Member Posts: 5,790 Member
    kd_mazur wrote: »
    Cauliflower is not potatoes, rice, or anything besides cauliflower.
    Greek yogurt is yucky!

    To be fair... all yogurt is pretty nasty.
  • VeryKatieVeryKatie Member Posts: 5,790 Member Member Posts: 5,790 Member
    Frozen custard is better than ice cream.
    Gelato is better than everything.

    Going to be honest I don't get the hype of Gelato. I like it fine. Buy why is it better than the other options?
  • pancakerunnerpancakerunner Member Posts: 4,701 Member Member Posts: 4,701 Member
    Unpopular, but tbh I don't think ice cream is that great when eaten by itself. And bizarre and unique flavors aren't that good. Vanilla ice cream with apple pie? perfect.
  • pancakerunnerpancakerunner Member Posts: 4,701 Member Member Posts: 4,701 Member
    Don't bother with whole wheat pasta.
  • AnnPT77AnnPT77 Member, Premium Posts: 17,119 Member Member, Premium Posts: 17,119 Member
    Don't bother with whole wheat pasta.

    I prefer it, as long as it's a good brand. (Favorite: Bionaturae).
  • pancakerunnerpancakerunner Member Posts: 4,701 Member Member Posts: 4,701 Member
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    Don't bother with whole wheat pasta.

    I prefer it, as long as it's a good brand. (Favorite: Bionaturae).

    so long as you enjoy it! in my experience, whole wheat penne or rotini isn't bad, but ww spaghettis and linguine doesn't do it for me
    edited October 20
  • lemurcat2lemurcat2 Member Posts: 5,938 Member Member Posts: 5,938 Member
    VeryKatie wrote: »
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    We always had German potato salad with bacon, vinegar, and mustard (no mayo), and I love it.

    That sounds good... do you have the recipe?

    Something like this, although it doesn't need the sugar: https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/german-potato-salad-with-bacon-vinegar-dressing-and-dill
  • lemurcat2lemurcat2 Member Posts: 5,938 Member Member Posts: 5,938 Member
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    Don't bother with whole wheat pasta.

    I prefer it, as long as it's a good brand. (Favorite: Bionaturae).

    so long as you enjoy it! in my experience, whole wheat penne or rotini isn't bad, but ww spaghettis and linguine doesn't do it for me

    I like whole wheat pasta (which I prefer depends on the sauce), but I also just realized I generally don't prefer long skinny pastas like spaghetti or linguine or angel hair. Prefer others like penne, rotini, farfalle, etc.
  • SuzySunshine99SuzySunshine99 Member Posts: 1,887 Member Member Posts: 1,887 Member
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    Don't bother with whole wheat pasta.

    I prefer it, as long as it's a good brand. (Favorite: Bionaturae).

    so long as you enjoy it! in my experience, whole wheat penne or rotini isn't bad, but ww spaghettis and linguine doesn't do it for me

    I like whole wheat pasta (which I prefer depends on the sauce), but I also just realized I generally don't prefer long skinny pastas like spaghetti or linguine or angel hair. Prefer others like penne, rotini, farfalle, etc.

    Ohhh, the pasta shape is a CONSTANT battle in my house. My husband prefers long skinny pasta, and I prefer shapes.

    We have both had to compromise. I vetoed angel hair and he vetoed penne/mostaccioli/anything tube-like.

    So, we alternate between spaghetti (which I tolerate), and rotini or farfalle (which he tolerates).

    He gets excited when I say I'm making pasta for dinner, but looks crestfallen when he sees that it's "shapes" night.

    He's got a gluten intolerance, so we get gluten-free pasta and I can't taste the difference at all.
    edited October 20
  • pancakerunnerpancakerunner Member Posts: 4,701 Member Member Posts: 4,701 Member
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    Don't bother with whole wheat pasta.

    I prefer it, as long as it's a good brand. (Favorite: Bionaturae).

    so long as you enjoy it! in my experience, whole wheat penne or rotini isn't bad, but ww spaghettis and linguine doesn't do it for me

    I like whole wheat pasta (which I prefer depends on the sauce), but I also just realized I generally don't prefer long skinny pastas like spaghetti or linguine or angel hair. Prefer others like penne, rotini, farfalle, etc.

    Ohhh, the pasta shape is a CONSTANT battle in my house. My husband prefers long skinny pasta, and I prefer shapes.

    We have both had to compromise. I vetoed angel hair and he vetoed penne/mostaccioli/anything tube-like.

    So, we alternate between spaghetti (which I tolerate), and rotini or farfalle (which he tolerates).

    He gets excited when I say I'm making pasta for dinner, but looks crestfallen when he sees that it's "shapes" night.

    He's got a gluten intolerance, so we get gluten-free pasta and I can't taste the difference at all.

    I prefer shapes as well. can’t stand angel hair! My favorite are bow ties and wagon wells ahah
  • janejellyrolljanejellyroll Member Posts: 24,328 Member Member Posts: 24,328 Member
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    Don't bother with whole wheat pasta.

    I prefer it, as long as it's a good brand. (Favorite: Bionaturae).

    so long as you enjoy it! in my experience, whole wheat penne or rotini isn't bad, but ww spaghettis and linguine doesn't do it for me

    I like whole wheat pasta (which I prefer depends on the sauce), but I also just realized I generally don't prefer long skinny pastas like spaghetti or linguine or angel hair. Prefer others like penne, rotini, farfalle, etc.

    Ohhh, the pasta shape is a CONSTANT battle in my house. My husband prefers long skinny pasta, and I prefer shapes.

    We have both had to compromise. I vetoed angel hair and he vetoed penne/mostaccioli/anything tube-like.

    So, we alternate between spaghetti (which I tolerate), and rotini or farfalle (which he tolerates).

    He gets excited when I say I'm making pasta for dinner, but looks crestfallen when he sees that it's "shapes" night.

    He's got a gluten intolerance, so we get gluten-free pasta and I can't taste the difference at all.

    Why is this so cute? I'm sorry, I'm just laughing imagining him getting all disappointed that it's going to be "shapes."
  • pancakerunnerpancakerunner Member Posts: 4,701 Member Member Posts: 4,701 Member
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    Don't bother with whole wheat pasta.

    I prefer it, as long as it's a good brand. (Favorite: Bionaturae).

    so long as you enjoy it! in my experience, whole wheat penne or rotini isn't bad, but ww spaghettis and linguine doesn't do it for me

    I like whole wheat pasta (which I prefer depends on the sauce), but I also just realized I generally don't prefer long skinny pastas like spaghetti or linguine or angel hair. Prefer others like penne, rotini, farfalle, etc.

    Ohhh, the pasta shape is a CONSTANT battle in my house. My husband prefers long skinny pasta, and I prefer shapes.

    We have both had to compromise. I vetoed angel hair and he vetoed penne/mostaccioli/anything tube-like.

    So, we alternate between spaghetti (which I tolerate), and rotini or farfalle (which he tolerates).

    He gets excited when I say I'm making pasta for dinner, but looks crestfallen when he sees that it's "shapes" night.

    He's got a gluten intolerance, so we get gluten-free pasta and I can't taste the difference at all.

    Why is this so cute? I'm sorry, I'm just laughing imagining him getting all disappointed that it's going to be "shapes."

    It's like getting a dog all excited about a car ride...only to pull up at the vet's office. :D

    why does pasta even come in a variety of shapes? genuine question, as it all tastes the same?
  • pancakerunnerpancakerunner Member Posts: 4,701 Member Member Posts: 4,701 Member
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    Don't bother with whole wheat pasta.

    I prefer it, as long as it's a good brand. (Favorite: Bionaturae).

    so long as you enjoy it! in my experience, whole wheat penne or rotini isn't bad, but ww spaghettis and linguine doesn't do it for me

    I like whole wheat pasta (which I prefer depends on the sauce), but I also just realized I generally don't prefer long skinny pastas like spaghetti or linguine or angel hair. Prefer others like penne, rotini, farfalle, etc.

    Ohhh, the pasta shape is a CONSTANT battle in my house. My husband prefers long skinny pasta, and I prefer shapes.

    We have both had to compromise. I vetoed angel hair and he vetoed penne/mostaccioli/anything tube-like.

    So, we alternate between spaghetti (which I tolerate), and rotini or farfalle (which he tolerates).

    He gets excited when I say I'm making pasta for dinner, but looks crestfallen when he sees that it's "shapes" night.

    He's got a gluten intolerance, so we get gluten-free pasta and I can't taste the difference at all.

    Why is this so cute? I'm sorry, I'm just laughing imagining him getting all disappointed that it's going to be "shapes."

    It's like getting a dog all excited about a car ride...only to pull up at the vet's office. :D

    why does pasta even come in a variety of shapes? genuine question, as it all tastes the same?

    I think, traditionally, different shapes were paired with different types of sauces, or in soups or other dishes. There is a difference in the way the shapes hold certain sauces and other ingredients.

    also probably regional
  • pancakerunnerpancakerunner Member Posts: 4,701 Member Member Posts: 4,701 Member
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