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Keto diet -pros and cons

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  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,160 Member
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    GaleHawkins wrote: »
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    This is an interesting piece: http://www.stephanguyenet.com/why-the-carbohydrate-insulin-model-of-obesity-is-probably-wrong-a-supplementary-reply-to-ebbeling-and-ludwigs-jama-article/

    Especially the below quote from it:

    "I don’t want to be on the wrong side of history, and one way to do that is to make overly confident and categorical predictions. I still think it’s plausible that some insulin-related variable could be involved in obesity and/or fat loss, particularly 1) insulin resistance in energy-regulating circuits in the brain, and/or 2) blood glucose levels between meals, or some other signal of glucose availability. What I think is very unlikely to be correct is the hypothesis articulated by Ludwig, Ebbeling, and Taubes: the primary cause of obesity is carbohydrate-stimulated insulin acting on fat cells.

    That said, I want to be clear that I think certain forms of carbohydrate are part of the explanation for obesity, and low-carbohydrate diets do cause fat loss in most people, with greater carbohydrate restriction typically resulting in greater fat loss. Like most diets, low-carbohydrate diets aren’t very effective against obesity in the average person, but they do have some effectiveness and they are certainly a valid tool in the toolbox. They may also be particularly useful for managing diabetes, although long-term outcomes remain uncertain."

    Especially that? I think you are picking and choosing what you are taking away. I'm sorry you feel the need to pick and choose.

    I personally agree with the quoted bit, however, including the bolded portion.

    Thanks for agreeing with me about the quoted bit because I know I can be wrong.
  • lemurcat2
    lemurcat2 Posts: 7,885 Member
    GaleHawkins wrote: »
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    GaleHawkins wrote: »
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    This is an interesting piece: http://www.stephanguyenet.com/why-the-carbohydrate-insulin-model-of-obesity-is-probably-wrong-a-supplementary-reply-to-ebbeling-and-ludwigs-jama-article/

    Especially the below quote from it:

    "I don’t want to be on the wrong side of history, and one way to do that is to make overly confident and categorical predictions. I still think it’s plausible that some insulin-related variable could be involved in obesity and/or fat loss, particularly 1) insulin resistance in energy-regulating circuits in the brain, and/or 2) blood glucose levels between meals, or some other signal of glucose availability. What I think is very unlikely to be correct is the hypothesis articulated by Ludwig, Ebbeling, and Taubes: the primary cause of obesity is carbohydrate-stimulated insulin acting on fat cells.

    That said, I want to be clear that I think certain forms of carbohydrate are part of the explanation for obesity, and low-carbohydrate diets do cause fat loss in most people, with greater carbohydrate restriction typically resulting in greater fat loss. Like most diets, low-carbohydrate diets aren’t very effective against obesity in the average person, but they do have some effectiveness and they are certainly a valid tool in the toolbox. They may also be particularly useful for managing diabetes, although long-term outcomes remain uncertain."

    Especially that? I think you are picking and choosing what you are taking away. I'm sorry you feel the need to pick and choose.

    I personally agree with the quoted bit, however, including the bolded portion.

    Thanks for agreeing with me about the quoted bit because I know I can be wrong.

    I posted it, so hardly surprising I agree. Duh.

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