Naturally Slim Program
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Here is an example of the kinds of stellar advice you can expect from the moderator, and some of the NS faithful.
"Don't count the calories. If you are counting calories you are most likely not eating foods you love. Foods that make your mouth water. Remember, counting calories is a diet and they are not a lifestyle change that is maintainable. A fist sized meal of foods you love is maintainable. "7 -
I have small hands. I'd starve. :noway:EvilShenanigansTX wrote: »Here is an example of the kinds of stellar advice you can expect from the moderator, and some of the NS faithful.
"Don't count the calories. If you are counting calories you are most likely not eating foods you love. Foods that make your mouth water. Remember, counting calories is a diet and they are not a lifestyle change that is maintainable. A fist sized meal of foods you love is maintainable. "16 -
EvilShenanigansTX wrote: »My husband's employer has offered us the Naturally Slim program at no charge, and we decided to give it a try. We just completed week 1 and I must say, it is giving me conflicted feelings.
For anyone wondering, the program is meant to retrain the way you eat and behave around food. Essentially you chew slowly, eat only one thing on your plate at a time (no combining flavors) to satisfy your brain's 'taste center' , and you eat using a timer (10 minutes eating, 5 minute break to evaluate your hunger levels), then 10 or more minutes eating if needed).
You are supposed to think of your portions in terms of stomach size - they use a loosely held fist. You are also supposed to sip a 7:1 ratio of water to OJ through the day to level out blood sugar. No snacks. Ever.
They encourage food diaries but greatly discourage calorie tracking, or eliminating any foods from your diet (so, no low-carb or keto as they are evidently the devil).
Basically eat slowly at a calorie deficit, and stop when you are full. **mind blown**
Anyone else out there doing this? The NS message boards are not supportive - in fact a small number of NS devotees respond to most people and it feels somewhat cult like. I saw some older threads about the program, but didn't want to resurrect a zombie thread.
Thanks!
That program actually doesn’t sound bad it teaches you how to basically eat intuitively without having rely on tools and strict diets. What could be better than that?
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EvilShenanigansTX wrote: »Here is an example of the kinds of stellar advice you can expect from the moderator, and some of the NS faithful.
"Don't count the calories. If you are counting calories you are most likely not eating foods you love. Foods that make your mouth water. Remember, counting calories is a diet and they are not a lifestyle change that is maintainable. A fist sized meal of foods you love is maintainable. "
Although I disagree with the bolded I don’t see anything wrong with what she said, she just has a different perspective when it comes to counting calories. Some people view counting calories as a diet program because it’s a tool where you have to rely on something everyday in order to lose weight or maintain some people don’t see that as a lifestyle they want. They’d rather learn eating in moderation. Some people just don’t like counting and looking at every calorie they put in their body.
It’s whatever works for the invidual and what they’d prefer.11 -
EvilShenanigansTX wrote: »My husband's employer has offered us the Naturally Slim program at no charge, and we decided to give it a try. We just completed week 1 and I must say, it is giving me conflicted feelings.
For anyone wondering, the program is meant to retrain the way you eat and behave around food. Essentially you chew slowly, eat only one thing on your plate at a time (no combining flavors) to satisfy your brain's 'taste center' , and you eat using a timer (10 minutes eating, 5 minute break to evaluate your hunger levels), then 10 or more minutes eating if needed).
You are supposed to think of your portions in terms of stomach size - they use a loosely held fist. You are also supposed to sip a 7:1 ratio of water to OJ through the day to level out blood sugar. No snacks. Ever.
They encourage food diaries but greatly discourage calorie tracking, or eliminating any foods from your diet (so, no low-carb or keto as they are evidently the devil).
Basically eat slowly at a calorie deficit, and stop when you are full. **mind blown**
Anyone else out there doing this? The NS message boards are not supportive - in fact a small number of NS devotees respond to most people and it feels somewhat cult like. I saw some older threads about the program, but didn't want to resurrect a zombie thread.
Thanks!
That program actually doesn’t sound bad it teaches you how to basically eat intuitively without having rely on tools and strict diets. What could be better than that?
You are right. Eat whatever you want, lose weight, and do it almost effortlessly? Sign me up!
Well, they did.
What could be better? How about science? This program makes a lot of claims that don't seem based in anything but anecdotes or stories. What has been a concern is how they discourage their members from eating certain kinds of food, like casseroles, salads, and soups.
I think discouraging people from eating vegetables, or doing even occasional calorie tracking, is not helpful. Pushing them to eat unhealthy foods because they make their mouth water... For shaming people for eating breakfast, eating a snack, or for even talking about healthy foods rather than what makes their mouths water .... That is not ok.18 -
Sure, do what works for you, just don't go in blind. This program is very mysterious from the outside, and once inside I have been instructed to eschew my doctor's advice in favor of their principles.
Do what works best for you, but ask questions. Be safe. Think for yourself.10 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »EvilShenanigansTX wrote: »The Pringles and peanuts are part of an exercise in taste satisfaction. You smell one chip, lick it, then eat it slowly. Then you eat a chip as fast as you can. Which tasted better? What flavor did you taste eating slowly vs fast?
Repeat with the peanuts.
Have you and your hubby actually been doing this stuff? I know that at my house, we wouldn't make it past the chip-licking bit.
Is is bad that this is pretty much how I actually eat crisps.
As in, I've always licked the flavouring off it first, and then eaten the actual body of it. I feel like it means I can enjoy all the flavour if I eat it like that. Because damnit, if I'm spending those calories eating it, I'm going to damn well make sure that I get all of the flavour out of it.
Eating a quarter of a nut is daft though. I don't do that6 -
Is is bad that this is pretty much how I actually eat crisps.
As in, I've always licked the flavouring off it first, and then eaten the actual body of it. I feel like it means I can enjoy all the flavour if I eat it like that. Because damnit, if I'm spending those calories eating it, I'm going to damn well make sure that I get all of the flavour out of it.
Eating a quarter of a nut is daft though. I don't do that
BUT, in the same way a broken as hell clock is right twice a day, that's also the best way to eat peanut M&Ms. Eat the chocolate off the outside then crunch the peanut and if you leave the peanut whole you get imaginary points.
Crunching a whole M&M in one go is a fools game.EvilShenanigansTX wrote: »Here is an example of the kinds of stellar advice you can expect from the moderator, and some of the NS faithful.
"Don't count the calories. If you are counting calories you are most likely not eating foods you love. Foods that make your mouth water. Remember, counting calories is a diet and they are not a lifestyle change that is maintainable. A fist sized meal of foods you love is maintainable. "
They are actually doing the thing people accuse pure-CICO-theory of doing. "Eat cake or fried chicken all day if you want it's fine, nutrition means nothing"14 -
Is is bad that this is pretty much how I actually eat crisps.
As in, I've always licked the flavouring off it first, and then eaten the actual body of it. I feel like it means I can enjoy all the flavour if I eat it like that. Because damnit, if I'm spending those calories eating it, I'm going to damn well make sure that I get all of the flavour out of it.
Eating a quarter of a nut is daft though. I don't do that
BUT, in the same way a broken as hell clock is right twice a day, that's also the best way to eat peanut M&Ms. Eat the chocolate off the outside then crunch the peanut and if you leave the peanut whole you get imaginary points.
Crunching a whole M&M in one go is a fools game.
I mean, I 100% agree with you here, that is the best way of eating an M&M (and yes those imaginary point count!)
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EvilShenanigansTX wrote: »The Pringles and peanuts are part of an exercise in taste satisfaction. You smell one chip, lick it, then eat it slowly. Then you eat a chip as fast as you can. Which tasted better? What flavor did you taste eating slowly vs fast?
Repeat with the peanuts.
Pringles have the stated flavour on one side only, so do they tell you to compare sides and which you prefer?5 -
I have small hands. I'd starve. :noway:EvilShenanigansTX wrote: »Here is an example of the kinds of stellar advice you can expect from the moderator, and some of the NS faithful.
"Don't count the calories. If you are counting calories you are most likely not eating foods you love. Foods that make your mouth water. Remember, counting calories is a diet and they are not a lifestyle change that is maintainable. A fist sized meal of foods you love is maintainable. "
That's 2 of us dead
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EvilShenanigansTX wrote: »Here is an example of the kinds of stellar advice you can expect from the moderator, and some of the NS faithful.
"Don't count the calories. If you are counting calories you are most likely not eating foods you love. Foods that make your mouth water. Remember, counting calories is a diet and they are not a lifestyle change that is maintainable. A fist sized meal of foods you love is maintainable. "
Lol. No. I absolutely count calories because I am eating foods that I love, but need to make sure I'm not blowing my calorie brains out on them and that they fit into my overall nutritional needs as well.
I don't really feel tracking calories is a diet plan in the strictest sense. The kitchen scale is merely a tool of measurement, just like the bathroom scale is. Is someone who weighs themselves a few times a week dieting necessarily, or simply gathering data points? That's how I view using a kitchen scale, too.
When I think of a diet plan in its purest sense, it seems to be all about what foods you can eat and what foods you can't, usually based around a 'good vs evil' mindset.
Calorie counting isn't.12 -
EvilShenanigansTX wrote: »
"Don't count the calories. If you are counting calories you are most likely not eating foods you love. Foods that make your mouth water. Remember, counting calories is a diet and they are not a lifestyle change that is maintainable. A fist sized meal of foods you love is maintainable. "
That's funny. Counting calories has been the only lifestyle change I've ever made that IS maintainable. [edit - with respect to food]6 -
EvilShenanigansTX wrote: »Here is an example of the kinds of stellar advice you can expect from the moderator, and some of the NS faithful.
"Don't count the calories. If you are counting calories you are most likely not eating foods you love. Foods that make your mouth water. Remember, counting calories is a diet and they are not a lifestyle change that is maintainable. A fist sized meal of foods you love is maintainable. "
Honestly, coupled with only eating twice a day I could see this diet quickly devolving into a VLCD for some people (me, at least). Sometimes the more mindful I become, the more obsessed with the minute details I get. I had this problem during previous experiments with eating mindfully and listening to my hungar signals, I'd slowly eat my way through maybe five or six bites then wouldn't feel "hungry" but had no sense of "eating to satisfaction" and ended up undereating until the inevitable food-fest ended the experiment.8 -
I have small hands. I'd starve. :noway:EvilShenanigansTX wrote: »Here is an example of the kinds of stellar advice you can expect from the moderator, and some of the NS faithful.
"Don't count the calories. If you are counting calories you are most likely not eating foods you love. Foods that make your mouth water. Remember, counting calories is a diet and they are not a lifestyle change that is maintainable. A fist sized meal of foods you love is maintainable. "
This might be one of the first situations in which I'd be grateful for having giant man-hands, despite being a smallish woman. (Srsly: Size 10 ring finger, even at 120 pounds. Crazy!)5 -
Stellar advice from the NS Message Board of the day in reference to someone concerned that she is only eating about 800 calories per day after tracking for a few days because she is waking up hungry overnight and is feeling lethargic:
"Calories don't matter. Don't worry about them."7 -
EvilShenanigansTX wrote: »Stellar advice from the NS Message Board of the day:
"Calories don't matter. Don't worry about them."
Does gravity not matter either? Because then I can just make up my own weight in the fairytale fantasy land where calories don't exist 10 -
I have small hands. I'd starve. :noway:EvilShenanigansTX wrote: »Here is an example of the kinds of stellar advice you can expect from the moderator, and some of the NS faithful.
"Don't count the calories. If you are counting calories you are most likely not eating foods you love. Foods that make your mouth water. Remember, counting calories is a diet and they are not a lifestyle change that is maintainable. A fist sized meal of foods you love is maintainable. "
This might be one of the first situations in which I'd be grateful for having giant man-hands, despite being a smallish woman. (Srsly: Size 10 ring finger, even at 120 pounds. Crazy!)
My size 6 rings are spinning freely but not quite falling off. With a few more pounds to lose, I'm hoping I don't have to get them resized.3 -
I have small hands. I'd starve. :noway:EvilShenanigansTX wrote: »Here is an example of the kinds of stellar advice you can expect from the moderator, and some of the NS faithful.
"Don't count the calories. If you are counting calories you are most likely not eating foods you love. Foods that make your mouth water. Remember, counting calories is a diet and they are not a lifestyle change that is maintainable. A fist sized meal of foods you love is maintainable. "
This might be one of the first situations in which I'd be grateful for having giant man-hands, despite being a smallish woman. (Srsly: Size 10 ring finger, even at 120 pounds. Crazy!)
My size 6 rings are spinning freely but not quite falling off. With a few more pounds to lose, I'm hoping I don't have to get them resized.
That is awesome. Well done 🎉2 -
EvilShenanigansTX wrote: »Stellar advice from the NS Message Board of the day:
"Calories don't matter. Don't worry about them."
Does gravity not matter either? Because then I can just make up my own weight in the fairytale fantasy land where calories don't exist
I am starting to see the GRAVITY of this person's situation.2
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