Doom, Despair, and Agony on Me! (aka a whine thread)
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Let's just say that my backside is hurting a bit...
I realize that this is the specialist center where the internal medicine specialist lives and all that... I've already once orally asked her to split the prescription between available via human pharmacy and *HAS* to be filled at the vet's.... she ignored...
So now I've sent it to them in writing: "Dear Dr. DRNAME, I regret to inform you that DOGNAME has to choose between paying for her next follow up visit with you, or continuing to fill her prescription at your internal pharmacy. If you would be kind enough to provide prescriptions, for generic drugs where possible, she may be able to reduce her monthly costs sufficiently so that she can afford to continue to be able to see you in person and receive the quality care only you can provide"
This is for 30 days (CAD 840+ after taxes = US 671):
The Omeprazole should be loads cheaper.
Have you checked Chewy.com?
Editing to add:
The Omeprazole is for stomach acid?
For kidney failure related stomach upset in cats I have used slippery elm bark powder. My local health food store sells it in bulk for extremely cheap.
I don’t know if it will work for dogs. But I do know it works for humans.
Worth investigating, anyhow.1 -
callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »That was the moment when I knew that his man understood what the priorities were and how things would have to be for the rest of his life.
Since for some reason I sympathize with your poor fellow Canuck hubby (zing!
), I will save him! 
A 1500VA UPS should be able to reliably brew a pot or two during a blackout! I suggest a beafier UPS because of the high initial load the heating of the water will place on it; but you can certainly play the "try before you buy" game and check out some less expensive units on the way up to the final one!
My suggestion for anyone who doesn’t live in an apartment is a little rocket stove.
Runs on anything you can burn. Twigs, briquettes, anything.
You can build one for about $20, or purchase a very high quality one for around $100.
Bonus: roasting marshmallows on your deck.
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You are a smart cookie, PAV. But if you change your mind I will throw in some naloxone!
I wouldn't wanna go near those myself, they don't look like much fun. I keep a naloxone by the front door, just in case someone has an especially bad experience.3 -
MargaretYakoda wrote: »The Omeprazole should be loads cheaper. Have you checked Chewy.com?
Editing to add: The Omeprazole is for stomach acid?
Worth investigating, anyhow.
Initial specialist diagnosis was acid reflux (omeprazole started at that time) and 1+ month follow up endoscopy and biospy ended up with "IBD": significant inflammation, most severe in the small intestines and characterized by lymphoplasmacytic and eosinophilic inflammation with lymphangiectasia. IBD is a disorder characterized by persistent or recurrent gastrointestinal signs with histological evidence of inflammation. It is believed there is a breakdown of immunologic tolerance to luminal antigens (bacteria, bacterial products, or dietary components). The breakdown in tolerance may be associated with disruption of the mucosal barrier, dysregulation of the immune system, and/or disturbances in the gut luminal microenvironment. Definitive interpretation of true idiopathic IBD requires exclusion of recognized parasitic, allergic, and/or infectious causes of intestinal inflammation as was done in DOGNAME's case.
This is the prescription subsequent to the diagnosis.
Margaret I used to run around with a company way back when in the early 2Ks that made a killing selling less expensive Canadian name brand and generic prescription drugs to US customers. US drug prices, I believe, have decreased, but our drugs should still be less expensive than down south.
yet budesonide was 30% my current cost when I googled a random vet pharmacy in San Francisco.
The 10mg omeprazole is more expensive than the 25mg and a whole lot of the drugs are name brand (not generic) even though they're taken out of their boxes. The sample word also comes to mind for one of them.... So yeah...
We shall see if I will manage to extract a prescription something all vets promise "no problem" while, based on my success rate in extracting one, I am almost sure, there is a course in the university of Guelph vet school on "how to deflect the request for a prescription".0 -
Let's just say that my backside is hurting a bit...
I realize that this is the specialist center where the internal medicine specialist lives and all that... I've already once orally asked her to split the prescription between available via human pharmacy and *HAS* to be filled at the vet's.... she ignored...
So now I've sent it to them in writing: "Dear Dr. DRNAME, I regret to inform you that DOGNAME has to choose between paying for her next follow up visit with you, or continuing to fill her prescription at your internal pharmacy. If you would be kind enough to provide prescriptions, for generic drugs where possible, she may be able to reduce her monthly costs sufficiently so that she can afford to continue to be able to see you in person and receive the quality care only you can provide"
This is for 30 days (CAD 840+ after taxes = US 671):
Omerprazole is over the counter Prilosec…..3 -
MargaretYakoda wrote: »The Omeprazole should be loads cheaper. Have you checked Chewy.com?
Editing to add: The Omeprazole is for stomach acid?
Worth investigating, anyhow.
Initial specialist diagnosis was acid reflux (omeprazole started at that time) and 1+ month follow up endoscopy and biospy ended up with "IBD": significant inflammation, most severe in the small intestines and characterized by lymphoplasmacytic and eosinophilic inflammation with lymphangiectasia. IBD is a disorder characterized by persistent or recurrent gastrointestinal signs with histological evidence of inflammation. It is believed there is a breakdown of immunologic tolerance to luminal antigens (bacteria, bacterial products, or dietary components). The breakdown in tolerance may be associated with disruption of the mucosal barrier, dysregulation of the immune system, and/or disturbances in the gut luminal microenvironment. Definitive interpretation of true idiopathic IBD requires exclusion of recognized parasitic, allergic, and/or infectious causes of intestinal inflammation as was done in DOGNAME's case.
This is the prescription subsequent to the diagnosis.
Margaret I used to run around with a company way back when in the early 2Ks that made a killing selling less expensive Canadian name brand and generic prescription drugs to US customers. US drug prices, I believe, have decreased, but our drugs should still be less expensive than down south.
yet budesonide was 30% my current cost when I googled a random vet pharmacy in San Francisco.
The 10mg omeprazole is more expensive than the 25mg and a whole lot of the drugs are name brand (not generic) even though they're taken out of their boxes. The sample word also comes to mind for one of them.... So yeah...
We shall see if I will manage to extract a prescription something all vets promise "no problem" while, based on my success rate in extracting one, I am almost sure, there is a course in the university of Guelph vet school on "how to deflect the request for a prescription".
A quick Google suggests slippery elm bark might be more effective and less expensive.
Caveat Emptor, of course.
But it’s worth investigating.1 -
omeprazole as someone else said is prilosec. you can probably find a generic to make it even cheaper.
Check TSC. See if they have any of them. You'd be surprised what they have, medication wise, at least here.
If you are in any dog groups on facebook, they can be a good resource. I will ask in my Pyr group for you - quite a few are working dogs like ours, and farmers of various kinds, and do as much as they can themselves as possible and may be familiar with some of these particular meds.
I'd also look for online discount pharmacies that ship to canada (id google something like canada discount pharmacy, canada discount veterinary pharmacy, etc) and see what you can find that way and the prices.
are you near a border crossing? if so, you could check https://www.goodrx.com and check pharmacy prices and take the rx at whichever pharmacy would be cheapest. we have really good insurance and rx coverage but every now and then get a random prescription for something that our carrier doesn't particularly like and will use goodrx
*kitten* you cant really cross right now. scratch that. maybe for future use. file that info away.
thats it off the top of my head. we have to run to TSC ourselves right now so have to get dressed and do that, but will post to that group when i get back and let you know if i come up with anything useful.2 -
Thanks call-z-ies, will look into non prescription.
In general the issue is the "block" from the vet issuing the prescription. While claiming that they're not
Local pharmacies should not be more expensive than in the US, rather the opposite. Don't know about vet specific pharmacies
Cheapest vet drugs in the past with fast shipping to USA and Canada were from an Australian wholesale group that was operating multiple web sites before the whole thing devolved info lawsuits
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Is your dog not feeling well or is this medicine stuff he takes regularly?….poor puppy1
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Thanks call-z-ies, will look into non prescription.
In general the issue is the "block" from the vet issuing the prescription. While claiming that they're not
you dont know a farm vet do you? Many also do dogs (cause ... farmers have dogs...)
it might be a long shot, but if you reach out to one (maybe try a few) explain the situation, be willing to show the paperwork (which I will assume will verify the prescription) and see if THEY will reissue a script for you to fill elsewhere. They may require a visit (think of it as a second opinion) or charge a fee (office, farm, consultation, whatever they want to bill it as) but it may be worth it if you can get what you need.
No one in my dog group had any ideas other than what I had thought of, OTHER than the farm vet idea up there. My vet is also our farm vet- they do everything, basically, so I didn't really think of it.
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Oh I absolutely need a farm vet.
The precious hospitals for your sick children boutique we sell lots of specialized food outlets that fill the city and treat/emotionally manipulate the owner more than the dog have gotten to my nerves... especially when my first dog died while waiting for the roving ultrasound tech to show up because they don't bother investing in an ultrasound machine. The option being to get referred to the emergency specialist vet hospital for imaging.
Yes Connie, she hasn't had the best year. First treating a bladder infection. Then a water parasitic thing. And now continuing on to acid reflux and ibd.4 -
Oh I absolutely need a farm vet.
The precious hospitals for your sick children boutique we sell lots of specialized food outlets that fill the city and treat/emotionally manipulate the owner more than the dog have gotten to my nerves... especially when my first dog died while waiting for the roving ultrasound tech to show up because they don't bother investing in an ultrasound machine. The option being to get referred to the emergency specialist vet hospital for imaging.
Yes Connie, she hasn't had the best year. First treating a bladder infection. Then a water parasitic thing. And now continuing on to acid reflux and ibd.
poor baby. Dietary changes (think a bland diet) and the prilosec alone may make a big difference too...
what kind of dog is she? How old?
Im surprised the fancy froo froo vets dont have that equipment (given the rates they charge). I know for some stuff (maybe a lot of stuff?) we would have to be referred out some place else but I would also expect that for where we are. We had an old lab, a senior rescue, who had a tumor on his side. We took him in and debated the pros and cons of what to do. We could have taken him to (wherever) for imaging to find out what it was, but at his age, surgery to remove it, whatever it was, probably would have killed him. So we decided just to leave it. We had him put down not too long after that, due to other health issues he had that were affecting the quality of life. worst part of pet ownership, by far.2 -
Border collie+husky+? Mix
About 60lbs
Rescue, 5 years here. Was 2-4 yo before. Went in and out of jail a few times (3 rounds I believe)
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awwwww sweet girl
and border collie husky, eh? yeah shes not trouble at all LOL3 -
and ... i will not call people names in the forums i will not call people names in the forums i will not i will not i will not
even when they deserve it
and SOME PEOPLE REALLY DESERVE IT
SOME PEOPLE are WORTH GOING TO MFP JAIL FOR
im just sayin....3 -
Pav that is a really good picture of you….so sorry your doggle isn’t feeling well….our Vet recently died and thankfully his son has taken his place…I think Vets are pricier than people doctors….
Callsit, our Willow is a Pitsky….part Pitt bull and pure blooded Huskie….she is about 80+ lbs, blue eyes, and looks kind of like a German Shepherd lol….she was the official puppy from Hell….you have no idea lol…she ate phones,remotes,computer cords,chair,table,couch,rugs,shoes and bit all of the family plus the obedience teacher!…she swallowed so many hair ties and they went right through her thank goodness….now she is a great dog!….anyone else would have gotten rid of her but we stuck it out….we were so afraid anyone else would have beaten her into submission….she is the smartest dog we have ever had…3 -
dobbys not really BAD, he just doesnt ever STOP.3
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You two are such cuties! And that walking place looks so wonderful 2
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She does get more than 2 hours mostly off leash a day and definitely wants more2
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Willow is never off her leash except in the house or car….1
