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  • HooliekomHooliekom Member Posts: 85 Member Member Posts: 85 Member
    natasor1 wrote: »
    Specialists figured out that additional calories come from people own fat, bc of that people loseing weight

    I don't understand this comment - what do you mean?
  • msalicia07msalicia07 Member Posts: 426 Member Member Posts: 426 Member
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    msalicia07 wrote: »
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    I think there's a crazy myth somewhat common among women of a non-current generation (i.e., women my age) that there's something extra feminine and virtuous about eating as little as possible, in pursuit of slimness. I do think it's possible to train your body to get by with less fuel, but I think that "getting by" is not ideal.

    OTOH, I also think that some younger women don't realize how few calories some older, smaller, less active women truly require . . . especially but not exclusively if they have a history of extreme yo-yo dieting, coupled with the fairly common low-protein diet that also tended to be followed by some types of women in decades past. It's a fact that female athleticism is much more common in recent years, at least in the US: Many of my age peers went to K-12 schools where there were literally no organized competitive sports for young women. Gym classes mostly existed, but often fostered low aspirations. Those things have later implications.)

    Any notion that any particular level of calorie need is . . . somehow more virtuous? . . . is misplaced, IMO; and that applies whether we're talking about lower needs or higher needs. (Please notice that I wrote "needs". Over-restricting, in context of an individual's actual needs, current weight, and goals, is generally a bad plan. What constitutes "over restriction" is very individual.)

    I do think it's possible that OP is eating above maintenance, but the notion that extremes of abstemiousness are necessary or desirable . . . is weird, IMO. I think a person is most likely to thrive - be in the most robust health - eating the maximum number of calories possible, while still achieving sensible weight management goals.

    This couldn’t be more true. Older women AND men see it as some attractive characteristic if women “eat like a bird”, as I’ve heard my father say. I’ve also heard older men comment more about the type of food women eat, along with portion size, than men my age or younger. I personally have never had my eating habits so openly discussed, at a table in front of everyone, more than when I sit with older people. No wonder why some people are closet eaters, so as not to be shamed for eating at all. Especially since the type of food and the amount in that sitting does not equate to eating more than you need to reach your goals, whatever that might be.

    Sure, some men believe it, too.

    Just an observation: You write this as if the person you were responding to (me), who was actually arguing *against* ultra-low calories and for calorie maximization . . . was not an actual older woman (or close enough, at age 65).

    Believing myths is rarely something done by a whole demographic groups. Believing myths is done by individuals. Sure, some myths are more commonly believed in some demographic groups.

    Possibly all the older people you know believe this particular myth. Trust me, that belief is not universal among older people.

    P.S. If it were universal, how to reconcile it with the concurrent mythology about how granny tries to feed younger people all the things, all the time? Heck, even many decades back, my Aunt Margaret (herself obese) would bring out all the snacks and drinks and try to get me to eat aallllll of them, when I was a young woman. She also made these "highballs" in a tall glass, some kind of spirits with Coke or whatever, that had about 3 fingers of liquor, a few ice cubes, and a splash of Coke to fill, and would try to get me to drink multiples. Further, she consistently refused to let her doctor weigh her, because "it was none of his business". She was a treat! But I digress. Older people do that. 😉😆

    I was agreeing to this part you said -

    “I think there's a crazy myth somewhat common among women of a non-current generation (i.e., women my age) that there's something extra feminine and virtuous about eating as little as possible, in pursuit of slimness. I do think it's possible to train your body to get by with less fuel, but I think that "getting by" is not ideal.”

    And using my experience over the years to say why I agreed it was common 😊

    Also your aunt and my aunt would be best friends I think.
    edited January 1
  • bubus05bubus05 Member Posts: 54 Member Member Posts: 54 Member
    Dogmom1978 wrote: »
    @bubus05 my comment was not abou fasting as plenty of people choose that to aid with weight loss. Natasor ALWAYS refers to an 800 calorie goal which is unsafe and should NEVER be attempted without doctor supervision.

    I personally see 0 benefit to fasting other than the usual CICO so if it helps one achieve a deficit and they enjoy it, more power to them. But again, that was NOT what I was referring to in this instance.
    Sure, I wasn't sure TBH about the context here. 800 cal target is madness I agree. I am also not sure if fasting is the way to break a plateau, it can certainly help IMHO to have a more healthy lifestyle but that's me. Each to their own as they say.
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  • KBP1025KBP1025 Member Posts: 18 Member Member Posts: 18 Member
    I've lost over a 100lb and have kept it off (watching it now due to holidays). I always measured my food. However, your body gets used to those same calories you eat every single day. What always worked for me: take a few days off (anywhere from 3/4 days to a whole week). Eat MORE than you usually do - don't even track calories, think you're on vacation. Use common sense, don't eat an entire pizza or half a cafe. Yes, there were times I would gain 10lbs and freak out. But EVERY SINGLE time, I then went back to my regular calories, all the weight I put on would come off in a week/week and a half plus more. Then I started to lose again. I've done this many, many times to break a plateau. But unlike the rest of this group, if I hit the a whole week or so (because I would see if my period was coming - that always derided everything) with no weight loss, then I would immediately do it because why wait and struggle for a month or two? This has always worked for me.
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