From 288 to 169 seeing the pic really helps me to keep going

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  • Dianedoessmiles1
    Dianedoessmiles1 Posts: 11,869 Member
    @Katiecondy1 ,, Awwww GF you are way to cute kiddo!! SO HAPPY you'll be back with our team on the 2023 Winter 5% Challenge!!! I'll need to go into this post and put the updated link as soon as I know it's okay to do so from the OALs. You also have QUITE THE STORY of success!! Would you like to join us on writing yours up and plugging in the 2023 Winter 5% Challenge? If so, wanna email me cause we want to draw more members from MFP into the 5% Team. Many are used to Groups, but we operate differently. So many from MFP keep saying about the 5% Challenge they've never had such tremendous support on MFP and are so happy with the success they are having, the friendships they are forming, the acceptance. Of course I find on MFP as it was SPARKS the acceptance is very very good anyways. DELIGHTED YOU'LL Be back with on the PS4L team in the 5% community.
    @BartBVanBockstaele , ,, YO SUCH A LATE Reply I am giving huh? I hit a snag in life. They haven't yet figured out why the harder time breathing (I DECLARE it's a necessary need that I breathe! LOL) that has been so frustrating. See this Dr, who says "nah see this one." it had turned into a 3 circle monkey circus!! I did finally put an end to it this week. I'm seeing cardiologist to say "It lands here. Why can't it be figured out?" Ahhhh the let's not pass the buck! In all fairness to the cardiologist the last time I went "to the other hospital" and not the one she's at. The EMT said if it were his Mom he'd of taken her to the one I said Okay to which isn't the one my cardiologist is at. There are only 2 hospitals in the area, they SHOULD have a SHARING info way with each other, but they do not. I know though she can get into my records now, so I'll ask to her please do that as I am there this coming Weds.

    Others should have NO rights to judge you on your decision. I'd look at them and respond with "And if I hadn't, I may not be here. Do you prefer that?" I love the shock value of putting back where it lays ,,, in it's YOUR decision. I've had some further testing, and my regular Dr has figured out parathyroid. Its not allowing the right amount of calcium into my bones though it's in my blood and when they do a T3 or T4 I look good, but it's not at all. I've read with any stomach surgery this is common. Please do keep a very good eye out on yourself. Hopefully your Dr's are following you to the T. You are such a remarkable person. I'll say again you should be a motivational speaker.

    Oh I sure do wish Dr's would say it as it is as you did above. "you like to eat what? It's okay to say" have the patient say what they really eat "And today you are here for high blood pressure and back pain? How do you think you've contributed to these?" AMAZINGLY I know someone who says "it runs in my family." which is true, and does in mine too, but then ask "And how did your parents eat?" Sometimes that light bulb goes on, sometimes there's just no electricity in that brain. LOL the light bulb ,, oh sad! In a lot of us, no one has force fed us. Perhaps there's been food insecurity, that's so big, but needs to be addressed.
    I am so sorry to read that your problem hasn't been figured out yet. I hope you will get a solution to your breathing problem. It can be really debilitating and scary and it is an all-too common problem. Almost every report I read includes it as a symptom.

    You also point out another all-too common big problem: that of medical communication. It is arguably far worse today than it was in the past. We have the current privacy hysteria to thank for that. You seem to have solved that problem, at least in part. Keep up the good work!

    Where weight loss is concerned, we also still have a lot to learn about exact mechanisms and "best practices" but what we know with as absolute a certainty as we can hope to ever get, is that a calorie deficit is guaranteed to cause fat weight loss and that a calorie excess is required for fat weight gain.

    And really, anything else is just skirmishes in the margin that do not change the reality of that one certainty. At most, the problem is no more complicated than finding a way to achieve an energy deficit that we can live with for a long time, quite possibly until we snuff it.

    Anyone who says otherwise is simply not aligned with reality. I encourage anyone who does not believe that to take a good look at people on a hunger strike: how come they lose weight and then die? If energy intake is not important how is it even possible that no hunger striker has ever been found to come out morbidly obese instead of a very dead skinny corpse? Anyone who can answer that question has all the knowledge they need to lose weight.

    All we need, is that people finally stop listening to the quacks who are telling them what they want to hear and start accepting that simple truth and start living in accordance with what logic and reality dictate.

    You are doing the right thing. Keep it up.

    I found this point of view documentary a while ago. You don't need it, but it might help some people realize that losing weight and keeping it off is possible, and that the people who did it and are doing it, are not some rare breed of superhumans with lucky genes, but just normal people who have "seen the light" and are willing to do what is necessary. It also nicely illustrates the fact that we are all different:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLL-A1B8Uzo

    LOVE LOVE LOVE THIS! Where weight loss is concerned, we also still have a lot to learn about exact mechanisms and "best practices" but what we know with as absolute a certainty as we can hope to ever get, is that a calorie deficit is guaranteed to cause fat weight loss and that a calorie excess is required for fat weight gain.

    And really, anything else is just skirmishes in the margin that do not change the reality of that one certainty. At most, the problem is no more complicated than finding a way to achieve an energy deficit that we can live with for a long time, quite possibly until we snuff it.

    Anyone who says otherwise is simply not aligned with reality.

    Ohhh Hey we need to be on TV and just saying it AS IT IS!!

    I'm so sorry that the money hungry lawyers have added into the Dr's not being able to say it as they wish they could. Have you ever asked your regular Dr. if they wish they could just look at a patient, look into their eyes and softly say "You are the cause of your problems, but lets find a solution that you can work with." I so BADLY want to ask my Dr. if they'd be willing to have patients who volunteer they want to lose weight, but do not know how, to have a class FREE OF CHARGE. My Drs office is in a location I DO NOT LIKE and I NEVER Want to be there at night, it's in the city, in a poorer section, I only go there because DANG THEY ARE GOOD!!! They bring in new residents every 2 to 4 years. SO you are always getting someone new, but they follow you so well when they are there. Since I am not a person with any easy issues, the new ones come in, they get so excited that I am not in their for a cold type thing or just take a blood pressure med. LOL The newest one is onto something, more about that at another time, but her eyes got that I AM SO EXCITED LOOK, and the blood test confirms it!! Now to find out what's what with this. It was THANKS to my "RUDE" Back Dr, saying to me as it was, which both TICKED ME OFF SO MUCH, but I KNEW He was right. That got me going into caring about my weight. I'm so thankful to this day. I think I'll write him a card of THANKS!!
  • BartBVanBockstaele
    BartBVanBockstaele Posts: 623 Member
    edited November 2022
    I'm so sorry that the money hungry lawyers have added into the Dr's not being able to say it as they wish they could. Have you ever asked your regular Dr. if they wish they could just look at a patient, look into their eyes and softly say "You are the cause of your problems, but lets find a solution that you can work with." I so BADLY want to ask my Dr. if they'd be willing to have patients who volunteer they want to lose weight, but do not know how, to have a class FREE OF CHARGE. My Drs office is in a location I DO NOT LIKE and I NEVER Want to be there at night, it's in the city, in a poorer section, I only go there because DANG THEY ARE GOOD!!! They bring in new residents every 2 to 4 years. SO you are always getting someone new, but they follow you so well when they are there. Since I am not a person with any easy issues, the new ones come in, they get so excited that I am not in their for a cold type thing or just take a blood pressure med. LOL The newest one is onto something, more about that at another time, but her eyes got that I AM SO EXCITED LOOK, and the blood test confirms it!! Now to find out what's what with this. It was THANKS to my "RUDE" Back Dr, saying to me as it was, which both TICKED ME OFF SO MUCH, but I KNEW He was right. That got me going into caring about my weight. I'm so thankful to this day. I think I'll write him a card of THANKS!!
    I'm afraid it is not just the lawyers, but also patient aggression. Many patients have become really dangerously aggressive with medical staff, from reception desk people to brain surgeons, to the point that they have good reasons to be genuinely afraid of telling patients what they need to hear but do not want to hear. As an example, at the window of the ophthalmology outpatient clinic in Sunnybrook hospital in Toronto, there is a sign essentially begging for people to remain polite.

    The trend of not telling patients what they need to hear has become so pervasive it is now everywhere. I remember an episode of the BBC series "Trust me, I'm a doctor" where someone, a surgeon no less, was advancing the claim that when you are fat, it is not your fault. Well, while "fault" may or may not be the right word, reality remains that becoming fat is only possible if one ingests more energy than one needs and that losing fat weight is only possible when one ingests less energy than one needs, unless a surgeon cuts it away, which is not a particularly brilliant way to achieve weight loss.

    The good news about this is that they are absolutes. It can't get much simpler than that. It can be hard to hear, hard to apply what follows from it, but the message is simple enough. And sometimes, unfortunately only sometimes, documentaries for the public will actually admit that.

    Thinking about this, I just rediscovered an older BBC documentary, "How to be slim" (part of a series that was called "The truth about food") that says it as it is:
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    The hard truth is, if you are overweight, you have taken in more energy in your food than your body has used. The excess calories have been stockpiled as fat. If calories in are more than calories out, you will put on weight. If you're fat, you just eat too much.
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    Sometimes, obviously, reality is being published. In fact, isn't that the very reason for the existence of MFP?

    The main problem, I think, remains simply that bringers of bad news are not loved, but reviled, sometimes to the point of murder. That is a problem everywhere, but it is possibly nowhere more so than in the US, where guns are so prevalent. I am not sure I would be willing to take the risk of being shot, simply for telling a patient what he/she needs really needs to hear.

    There is an awful lot about weight loss that we still have to learn, but as long as people do not accept the basic reality, there will be little hope for success, in my opinion. It is high time to bring science back to the schools. Science may or may not be "cool" and "fun" but is about the pursuit of knowledge about reality. Regardless of who may or may not like to hear what is true, everybody should have free access to it. Knowledge about reality should not be a secret for the privileged. It should be a human right.

    As for your doctor, I think he would be delighted to see that his message was heard, received, understood and followed. He did the right thing giving you the message, and you did the right thing by taking it to heart!
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