OT - Football Talk for the Week ending November 17, 2025
The NFL's week starts Thursday with Jets at New England and ends with Cowboys at Raiders on MNF. Texas at Georgia looks like a good matchup of Top 10 college teams.
This thread is here for all your football talk. Last week's thread never gained much traction, but I will keep posting these if there is still interest.
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Here’s hoping the Pats beat a team they should beat tonight. Hard to imagine ww could be relying on the Pats to break a Jets win streak.
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When I watch a game between two teams where I have no rooting interest, like tonight's Jets/Patriots game , I need to pick one if I am going to watch. Charlie, I'll pull for NE in a nod to you. Do you do that too, or can you watch just to see the sport played well?
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Even if it’s not a team I follow, if I’m watching there’s generally a team I prefer to see win. For example:
- I’ll root for the Steelers because of Mike Tomlin and despite Rodgers, and because they play physical football.
- I'll root for Sam Darnold or Baker Mayfield, because they weren’t well served by their first team and I like to see them succeed.
- I’ll root for whoever is playing the Eagles, Jets, or Giants - the Giants because they stole our perfect season on a non-catch, the Eagles because of their fans, and the Jets because, well, they’re still the Jets.
- I’ll root for the 49ers because John Lynch is their GM.
- I’ll root for Detroit because of Dan Campbell.
I have a hard time rooting for the Bills, although I respect what they are as a team - but they’re a rival. People talk about “but they lost four Super Bowls!”, and ignore the fact that (to my knowledge) no other team has gotten to four successive Super Bowls, and lot of teams haven’t been to four Super Bowls in total!
I also have a hard time rooting for the Cowboys because of Jerry Jones' ego and how he handles some of his player issues. He’s sort of the Steven A Smith of owners; he believes that the volume and quantity of words is more important than the quality of thought.
I’ll admit I’m ambivalent about most of the NFC.
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Charlie, I might have to pull my endorsement of NE tonight since you won't do the same for the Cowboys (just kidding). Actually, I don't like Jerry Jones and the way he runs the team, but I was a Cowboys fan before he got here, and it is pretty much engrained in me.
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I'm a "HOMER". Love the Sox, Pats, celts, and Bruns. End of story.
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I get being stuck with a team, since I grew up a Red Sox and Pats fan. They had one thing in common - they would both either hang on the fringes of contention before failing at the end, or they’d front-run until the last minute and then collapse.
Happy with last night’s performance overall. (Trying not to nitpick about style point in a win.)0 -
I've had a hard time finding entertainment value in football this season. My Browns are terrible, and my Gophers are decidedly middle-of-the-pack. Last night's Gophers/Ducks game was depressing (I'll carry on with my boycott of Nike, lol). The Browns are 7.5 home underdogs to the Ravens tomorrow, but tbh that spread seems generous - I'd go with something more like Ravens as 40 point favorites.
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The Cowboys on MNF - just like a car wreck, I have to watch.
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Brian, I see that the Browns covered. Moral victory?
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Gotta feel for Myles Garrett - a great player who isn’t getting even as far as the playoffs.
Of course, he is getting $40M/year . . .
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I wouldn't say moral victory, but it was an entertaining game. Probably the Browns' most entertaining game of the last two season.
Myles is the best, and there's always next year. He's benefitting a lot right now from improvements on the Browns' defensive line, including 5th overall pick DT Mason Graham. There's a lot of misunderstanding about his situation … he was NEVER going to get traded in the off season because of how his salary was structured. Trading him would have meant a crippling cap hit and no free agency spending for the foreseeable future, while keeping him in the fold allows the team to better overcome the Watson debacle and find a way (hopefully) to field a competitive offense. It's never been about this season (which, don't get me wrong, doesn't make this season any easier to stomach).
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