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  • VeronicaA76VeronicaA76 Member Posts: 1,116 Member Member Posts: 1,116 Member
    bbell1985 wrote: »
    bbell1985 wrote: »
    What lifting has done for me. 6 month ago I hit a major plateau. Was stuck at about 220lbs. Today, I went back to school shopping with my daughter. SIZE 10 Levi's boyfriend cut (no stretchy stuff, 100% cotton). Snug on glutes and quads, looser on waist (no muffin top!!!). I have NEVER been a size 10, ever!

    Yeah girl! And hi from NYC. I'm in Brooklyn.

    Thanks!. Hi from El Paso, TX. I just love how "bulky" lifting weights is making me. Can't wait to get even "bulkier" and have a 6-pack.

    Sorry, your profile says Manhattan NY.. But TX is good too lol.

    I have bulked while lifting. It's a thing. But not in a deficit :) And I didn't look bulky. Just super soft.

    Um, had one weirdo on here start to stalk me, so I entered a random zip code. Sorry for the confusion.

    Oh I know, my trainer & I have a running joke that I was just "bulking" for 20 years. We did a massive cut at the beginning, but now when we're bulking, I don't see the fat, I see mass gains (also when I hate him the most as my everything ends up sore). We do 90 cut, 45 day bulk now (because I still have a good amount of excess fat to lose). I was joking about when people try to tell me (and probably you), that lifting weights will make women bulky.

    You look amazing btw.

    You see gains in a 45 day bulk as a female? You must have mad genetics.

    I also have to question a trainer who 1. runs 45 day bulks and 2. has you bulk at all when you still have a lot of excess fat.

    My goals include being extremely muscular for a woman. Natural bodybuilder size, so I don't mind the bulking process because we cut a bit more fat than we bulk every time. Looking at old photos of my mom, grandmother's (both), aunt's, and one great grandmother, they were all pretty strong women. Especially my maternal grandmother, at 60, she had a very muscular upper body. So I do have a genetic disposition to build muscle, as long as I actually do the work (some people don't understand that even with a predisposition for something, it's not magic, I still have to work at it). My sister is the only one that was ever little (but that's because she was anorexic - she's recovered now FYI). Even at her smallest though, she still had a wider build.

    I put a lot of trust in my trainer, seeing the results (I have actual traps! Biceps, lats, triceps) and am leaner, it's easy for me to just go with the plan. To be honest, during those 45 days, the lifting is brutal!!! I am always sore, at least one part of my body is just sore at any given time. I also end up significantly stronger after those 45 days. The difference in weights from day 1 to day 45 can be quite big.

    A lot is about personal goals, I don't want to be "thin" or "skinny" which is very different from most women. I really do want to be massively muscular with a lower body fat percentage. I want to have visible pectoral muscles without flexing.

    Everyone is different, this is working for me to get me to where I want to be. It's working, I'm healthier, I'm closer to my goals. So I just stick with it.

    I'd be really curious to see pictures of your progress. I don't understand bulking while you still have excess fat or how you're able to even bulk effectively in 45 days.

    I know you've posted pictures before, but your Photobucket isn't playing nicely with MFP. Just upload them here. It's really hard to visualize how this kind of training program plays out because it's so counter-intuitive.

    Yeah, I'd be curious too. Even the genetically gifted with perfect programming, nutrition maximised, everything very carefully and tightly managed would be very very lucky to gain 1lb of lean mass in a surplus in a month. I can't imagine how that would be visible at all, particularly when adding fat to an already overfat base (not saying that in an insulting way, by your own admission you have excess fat).

    And anyone wanting to look like a gifted builder when starting in their 40s is going to have a hard enough time getting visible results never mind when they haven't got lean enough to see what base they're working with. I don't know how you can effectively assess progress and tweak your training.

    1. Look up "Ernestine Sheppard" to see what starting late can look like. Just WOW!!!! Seriously, she is absolutely inspirational!
    2. I haven't figured out how to upload photos on these threads , I don't have a paid photobucket account.
    3. I do have some progress pics on my home page, a whole bunch more on my BodySpace account.
    4. My trainer is the one that tweaks my workouts, based on my input (amount I lift, how I'm feeling, flexed/unflexed photos and so on). And these are weekly tweaks in response to daily updatea. My legs build a lot quicker than my upper body, but are slower on losing fat... He tweeked my workouts to help even me out for better proportions and to maximize my potential. (I know spot reducing fat is a myth - we just work on overall fat reduction and hope my body responds the way I want it to, if not, oh well)
    5. Sometimes it really sucks, I want results so I stick with it. You have no idea of how much I am tired of plain chicken and fish and plain vegetables (lightly steamed or raw) and rice. But, I want the results more.

    My BodySpace account is VArmendariz FYI.
  • GottaBurnEmAllGottaBurnEmAll Member Posts: 7,722 Member Member Posts: 7,722 Member
    bbell1985 wrote: »
    bbell1985 wrote: »
    What lifting has done for me. 6 month ago I hit a major plateau. Was stuck at about 220lbs. Today, I went back to school shopping with my daughter. SIZE 10 Levi's boyfriend cut (no stretchy stuff, 100% cotton). Snug on glutes and quads, looser on waist (no muffin top!!!). I have NEVER been a size 10, ever!

    Yeah girl! And hi from NYC. I'm in Brooklyn.

    Thanks!. Hi from El Paso, TX. I just love how "bulky" lifting weights is making me. Can't wait to get even "bulkier" and have a 6-pack.

    Sorry, your profile says Manhattan NY.. But TX is good too lol.

    I have bulked while lifting. It's a thing. But not in a deficit :) And I didn't look bulky. Just super soft.

    Um, had one weirdo on here start to stalk me, so I entered a random zip code. Sorry for the confusion.

    Oh I know, my trainer & I have a running joke that I was just "bulking" for 20 years. We did a massive cut at the beginning, but now when we're bulking, I don't see the fat, I see mass gains (also when I hate him the most as my everything ends up sore). We do 90 cut, 45 day bulk now (because I still have a good amount of excess fat to lose). I was joking about when people try to tell me (and probably you), that lifting weights will make women bulky.

    You look amazing btw.

    You see gains in a 45 day bulk as a female? You must have mad genetics.

    I also have to question a trainer who 1. runs 45 day bulks and 2. has you bulk at all when you still have a lot of excess fat.

    My goals include being extremely muscular for a woman. Natural bodybuilder size, so I don't mind the bulking process because we cut a bit more fat than we bulk every time. Looking at old photos of my mom, grandmother's (both), aunt's, and one great grandmother, they were all pretty strong women. Especially my maternal grandmother, at 60, she had a very muscular upper body. So I do have a genetic disposition to build muscle, as long as I actually do the work (some people don't understand that even with a predisposition for something, it's not magic, I still have to work at it). My sister is the only one that was ever little (but that's because she was anorexic - she's recovered now FYI). Even at her smallest though, she still had a wider build.

    I put a lot of trust in my trainer, seeing the results (I have actual traps! Biceps, lats, triceps) and am leaner, it's easy for me to just go with the plan. To be honest, during those 45 days, the lifting is brutal!!! I am always sore, at least one part of my body is just sore at any given time. I also end up significantly stronger after those 45 days. The difference in weights from day 1 to day 45 can be quite big.

    A lot is about personal goals, I don't want to be "thin" or "skinny" which is very different from most women. I really do want to be massively muscular with a lower body fat percentage. I want to have visible pectoral muscles without flexing.

    Everyone is different, this is working for me to get me to where I want to be. It's working, I'm healthier, I'm closer to my goals. So I just stick with it.

    I'd be really curious to see pictures of your progress. I don't understand bulking while you still have excess fat or how you're able to even bulk effectively in 45 days.

    I know you've posted pictures before, but your Photobucket isn't playing nicely with MFP. Just upload them here. It's really hard to visualize how this kind of training program plays out because it's so counter-intuitive.

    Yeah, I'd be curious too. Even the genetically gifted with perfect programming, nutrition maximised, everything very carefully and tightly managed would be very very lucky to gain 1lb of lean mass in a surplus in a month. I can't imagine how that would be visible at all, particularly when adding fat to an already overfat base (not saying that in an insulting way, by your own admission you have excess fat).

    And anyone wanting to look like a gifted builder when starting in their 40s is going to have a hard enough time getting visible results never mind when they haven't got lean enough to see what base they're working with. I don't know how you can effectively assess progress and tweak your training.

    1. Look up "Ernestine Sheppard" to see what starting late can look like. Just WOW!!!! Seriously, she is absolutely inspirational!
    2. I haven't figured out how to upload photos on these threads , I don't have a paid photobucket account.
    3. I do have some progress pics on my home page, a whole bunch more on my BodySpace account.
    4. My trainer is the one that tweaks my workouts, based on my input (amount I lift, how I'm feeling, flexed/unflexed photos and so on). And these are weekly tweaks in response to daily updatea. My legs build a lot quicker than my upper body, but are slower on losing fat... He tweeked my workouts to help even me out for better proportions and to maximize my potential. (I know spot reducing fat is a myth - we just work on overall fat reduction and hope my body responds the way I want it to, if not, oh well)
    5. Sometimes it really sucks, I want results so I stick with it. You have no idea of how much I am tired of plain chicken and fish and plain vegetables (lightly steamed or raw) and rice. But, I want the results more.

    My BodySpace account is VArmendariz FYI.

    I looked up your bodyspace account. You've had tremendous results from fat loss, and I can see what look like apparent results of lifting in a deficit, but nothing that would be indicative of muscle gains (bulking).

    It's generally accepted that even in ideal conditions, a woman can only gain a pound of muscle in a month, though there are some exceptions, and you might have gained some muscle tissue as an untrained newbie, though those gains have likely plateaued at this point.

    Your strength gains will likely continue at the point, so keep going, because you will continue to look smaller at a higher weight for lifting.

    I still don't understand the point of bulking until you reach an ideal body fat, but I'll leave that to you and your trainer.
  • jayemesjayemes Member Posts: 862 Member Member Posts: 862 Member
    bbell1985 wrote: »
    You make me want to cut after I just decided to stay fluffy :(

    @bbell1985 I've seen your photos. There is nothing fluffy about you! You look fantastic!

  • KeladelphiaKeladelphia Member Posts: 820 Member Member Posts: 820 Member
    bbell1985 wrote: »
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    I may have posted some photos in this thread in the past but I'm just finishing up this years cut with 2kg to go. The first pic was about 20 pounds down from my heaviest (235 maybe 215 here) and there were a couple of bulk and cut cycles between the second and middle picture. I weigh about the same in both middle and right pics (140-143lbs). I lifted from day one of losing the weight.

    Oh hey boo. Fancy meeting you here. You make me want to cut after I just decided to stay fluffy :(

    Hey girl heyyyyyyy. I had decided to stay a little fluffier myself until my coach told me I was doing a meet at the end of October so I had to cut. I wasn't happy about it but i'll be honest, now that i'm a little leaner than i've been in quite a while I realized I did miss it a bit. If you can enjoy staying a little fluffier for a bit girl DO IT!

    Also "creep alert" I just wanted to tell you your pics were some of the most motivating ones I saw as I was losing my weight initially. :)
    edited August 2017
  • KeladelphiaKeladelphia Member Posts: 820 Member Member Posts: 820 Member
    jayemes wrote: »
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    Girl, you look ridonculous! Super inspiring!!

    Thank you :)
  • HamsibianHamsibian Member Posts: 1,388 Member Member Posts: 1,388 Member
    SueSueDio wrote: »
    Care76 wrote: »
    Hamsibian wrote: »
    I lifted in the past until I got really sick and lost all my muscle. I started back Again, and here are my progress photos from May 14 to today.

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    Great job! But I really wanted to wish you well and say I hope you're feeling better.

    Ditto - glad to hear you're getting your disease under control and doing well! But I wanted to add that I just love your smile in that second photo... :)

    Aww, thank you so much! Seriously, these words of encouragement from everyone is bringing tears to my eyes. I also feel like my smile is returning to its old self, and some friends and my sister (who is visiting this week for her wedding on Saturday yay!) noticed a major difference in my overall attitude and energy.
  • HamsibianHamsibian Member Posts: 1,388 Member Member Posts: 1,388 Member
    bbell1985 wrote: »
    wuyef16bbs39.png

    I may have posted some photos in this thread in the past but I'm just finishing up this years cut with 2kg to go. The first pic was about 20 pounds down from my heaviest (235 maybe 215 here) and there were a couple of bulk and cut cycles between the second and middle picture. I weigh about the same in both middle and right pics (140-143lbs). I lifted from day one of losing the weight.

    Oh hey boo. Fancy meeting you here. You make me want to cut after I just decided to stay fluffy :(

    Okay, shhh @bbell1985. both of you ladies look absolutely phenomenal! I personally am looking forward to having more fluff. :D
    edited August 2017
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    i can't wait to have a before and after on this thread. you are all amazing
  • mom23mangosmom23mangos Member Posts: 2,996 Member Member Posts: 2,996 Member
    My LAWD @RoxieDawn !!! Please tell that isn't your BEFORE before on the top right? Because if it is, you were smoking hot and looking fit as heck even then. The amount of muscle you have put on your upper body is amazing. Those biceps!!! <3
    edited September 2017
  • RoxieDawnRoxieDawn Member Posts: 15,505 Member Member Posts: 15,505 Member
    My LAWD @RoxieDawn !!! Please tell that isn't your BEFORE before on the top right? Because if it is, you were smoking hot and looking fit as heck even then. The amount of muscle you have put on your upper body is amazing. Those biceps!!! <3

    Thank you as always girl! <3<3<3

    I lost 29 pounds and I did start lifting 6 months before these 'before pics" as you can see not a great deal of progress during a calorie deficit.

    These pics are my lifting only! The before pic top right (Feb 2015) and the after right pic (Sept 2017).. as you can see skinny fat is the foundation I had to work with! lol

    The bicep pictures are the same date as well. When I did my bicep pic Feb 2015, I thought I had something to show off... Not really... Next bulk starts October, its glute/leg focus, looking for some improvements there for sure!!

    edited September 2017
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