Food For Thought: There's Not One Right Way

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  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    I've been here for about a month now, but I'm not new to weight loss and I am certainly not new to the basic techniques of research, reading, and learning. What comes across as "mean" or as "bullying" on MFP is often just a total lack of tolerance for idiocy. People come on here day in and day out and post stupid things, and obviously they are going to get reamed for it. Should they? ABSO-****ING-LUTELY. Why should we tolerate stupidity, misinformation, and broscience on a site designed for health and fitness advice/support/motivation? Sometimes people do deserved to get torn apart for propagating dumb ideas. Occasionally it might even inspire someone to read something from a trusted source and learn who was right--the OP or the bullies. If you can't understand that, then you should find yourself a place that can and will tolerate ignorance. Or maybe just stick to the success threads, where it's nice and cozy (well...except for the "clean eating" thread....don't go there either because it might hurt your feelings).

    Your profile name is right. You are great! :flowerforyou:
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    Damn, I was wrong. It wasn't like the 8th poster....it was waayyy into the thread before we saw our first strong post. *smh*
  • escloflowneCHANGED
    escloflowneCHANGED Posts: 3,038 Member
    I've been here for about a month now, but I'm not new to weight loss and I am certainly not new to the basic techniques of research, reading, and learning. What comes across as "mean" or as "bullying" on MFP is often just a total lack of tolerance for idiocy. People come on here day in and day out and post stupid things, and obviously they are going to get reamed for it. Should they? ABSO-****ING-LUTELY. Why should we tolerate stupidity, misinformation, and broscience on a site designed for health and fitness advice/support/motivation? Sometimes people do deserved to get torn apart for propagating dumb ideas. Occasionally it might even inspire someone to read something from a trusted source and learn who was right--the OP or the bullies. If you can't understand that, then you should find yourself a place that can and will tolerate ignorance. Or maybe just stick to the success threads, where it's nice and cozy (well...except for the "clean eating" thread....don't go there either because it might hurt your feelings).

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  • _chiaroscuro
    _chiaroscuro Posts: 1,340 Member
    Damn, I was wrong. It wasn't like the 8th poster....it was waayyy into the thread before we saw our first strong post. *smh*

    HA!
    Well, time for this now too I guess:
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  • prattiger65
    prattiger65 Posts: 1,657 Member
    I've been here for about a month now, but I'm not new to weight loss and I am certainly not new to the basic techniques of research, reading, and learning. What comes across as "mean" or as "bullying" on MFP is often just a total lack of tolerance for idiocy. People come on here day in and day out and post stupid things, and obviously they are going to get reamed for it. Should they? ABSO-****ING-LUTELY. Why should we tolerate stupidity, misinformation, and broscience on a site designed for health and fitness advice/support/motivation? Sometimes people do deserved to get torn apart for propagating dumb ideas. Occasionally it might even inspire someone to read something from a trusted source and learn who was right--the OP or the bullies. If you can't understand that, then you should find yourself a place that can and will tolerate ignorance. Or maybe just stick to the success threads, where it's nice and cozy (well...except for the "clean eating" thread....don't go there either because it might hurt your feelings).

    Yeah, me too. Perfect point
  • prattiger65
    prattiger65 Posts: 1,657 Member
    ahhh fundamentalists, you can find them on any topic....and they always sound the same.

    1st post...............solid gold
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
    I've been here for about a month now, but I'm not new to weight loss and I am certainly not new to the basic techniques of research, reading, and learning. What comes across as "mean" or as "bullying" on MFP is often just a total lack of tolerance for idiocy. People come on here day in and day out and post stupid things, and obviously they are going to get reamed for it. Should they? ABSO-****ING-LUTELY. Why should we tolerate stupidity, misinformation, and broscience on a site designed for health and fitness advice/support/motivation? Sometimes people do deserved to get torn apart for propagating dumb ideas. Occasionally it might even inspire someone to read something from a trusted source and learn who was right--the OP or the bullies. If you can't understand that, then you should find yourself a place that can and will tolerate ignorance. Or maybe just stick to the success threads, where it's nice and cozy (well...except for the "clean eating" thread....don't go there either because it might hurt your feelings).

    You. I like you.

    Same
  • QueenBishOTUniverse
    QueenBishOTUniverse Posts: 14,121 Member
    :tongue: I usually prefer to sit back and watch, but I've spent too much time today pounding my head against the desk...
  • bio01979
    bio01979 Posts: 313
    I've been here for about a month now, but I'm not new to weight loss and I am certainly not new to the basic techniques of research, reading, and learning. What comes across as "mean" or as "bullying" on MFP is often just a total lack of tolerance for idiocy. People come on here day in and day out and post stupid things, and obviously they are going to get reamed for it. Should they? ABSO-****ING-LUTELY. Why should we tolerate stupidity, misinformation, and broscience on a site designed for health and fitness advice/support/motivation? Sometimes people do deserved to get torn apart for propagating dumb ideas. Occasionally it might even inspire someone to read something from a trusted source and learn who was right--the OP or the bullies. If you can't understand that, then you should find yourself a place that can and will tolerate ignorance. Or maybe just stick to the success threads, where it's nice and cozy (well...except for the "clean eating" thread....don't go there either because it might hurt your feelings).

    bwahahahahahahahaha

    those threads make my head spin :P

    if I washed my hands before I ate and I am not picking dirt off my food - it's clean ;)
  • ZoeLifts
    ZoeLifts Posts: 10,347 Member
    I've been here for about a month now, but I'm not new to weight loss and I am certainly not new to the basic techniques of research, reading, and learning. What comes across as "mean" or as "bullying" on MFP is often just a total lack of tolerance for idiocy. People come on here day in and day out and post stupid things, and obviously they are going to get reamed for it. Should they? ABSO-****ING-LUTELY. Why should we tolerate stupidity, misinformation, and broscience on a site designed for health and fitness advice/support/motivation? Sometimes people do deserved to get torn apart for propagating dumb ideas. Occasionally it might even inspire someone to read something from a trusted source and learn who was right--the OP or the bullies. If you can't understand that, then you should find yourself a place that can and will tolerate ignorance. Or maybe just stick to the success threads, where it's nice and cozy (well...except for the "clean eating" thread....don't go there either because it might hurt your feelings).

    Marry me!! :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:
  • ashleyisgreat
    ashleyisgreat Posts: 586 Member
    You're all making me blush. :blushing:
  • schmidty13
    schmidty13 Posts: 41 Member
    Well said, what a great post and absolutely right. Everyone has a difference of opinions and there are people on these forums that can be extremely rude in my experience on this site for just a week. It has been very interesting replying on these forums and not a very pleasant one. I think these forums should be more about encouragement and support, and less attacking when someone has an opinion you might disagree with.

    Do you think bull **** should not be corrected....just rainbows and ponies and whatevs, as long as we all get along....

    There is opinion and there is fact...you have to know the difference. If someone is giving a completely nonfactual, bull**** opinion...pretty much every vet on this forum is going to call them on it. There's bro-science and then there's science. When you don't call bull**** when calling bull**** is warranted...well, that's the exact opposite of true support.

    Yup.
  • eautrey124
    eautrey124 Posts: 60 Member
    I've been here for about a month now, but I'm not new to weight loss and I am certainly not new to the basic techniques of research, reading, and learning. What comes across as "mean" or as "bullying" on MFP is often just a total lack of tolerance for idiocy. People come on here day in and day out and post stupid things, and obviously they are going to get reamed for it. Should they? ABSO-****ING-LUTELY. Why should we tolerate stupidity, misinformation, and broscience on a site designed for health and fitness advice/support/motivation? Sometimes people do deserved to get torn apart for propagating dumb ideas. Occasionally it might even inspire someone to read something from a trusted source and learn who was right--the OP or the bullies. If you can't understand that, then you should find yourself a place that can and will tolerate ignorance. Or maybe just stick to the success threads, where it's nice and cozy (well...except for the "clean eating" thread....don't go there either because it might hurt your feelings).

    I'm not saying we don't need to correct those who are propagating false facts. But, if they are doing it out of ignorance, as in a lack of knowledge, then maybe it would be better to inform them, and not rip them apart. If I were to use this process when trying to help any misinformed or unknowledgeable, it wouldn't really help them learn. For example, my brother recently asked for help on factions because he was doing it wrong... Should I just say "You're stupid. They are fractions. Not that diffictult, idiot." No. I am not expecting a world of rainbows and ponies. I don't expect everyone to agree with me, but I just want to encourage people to give criticism in a more tactful way than some of the ways I've seen demonstrated in these forums.
  • schmidty13
    schmidty13 Posts: 41 Member
    This thread is a perfect example of the OP point.

    I don't think my original response warranted any of the negative responses it received
    Well said, what a great post and absolutely right. Everyone has a difference of opinions and there are people on these forums that can be extremely rude in my experience on this site for just a week. It has been very interesting replying on these forums and not a very pleasant one. I think these forums should be more about encouragement and support, and less attacking when someone has an opinion you might disagree with.

    its just another example of how these threads get completely derailed by others, I simply agreed with the Original Posters comment. Some will never grasp the concept that what they view as fact is actually just their opinion.

    And just as many have difficulty understanding why their opinions get hammered around here when they are put up against fact. Fact vs opinion, the win will always go to the fact.
  • delaniecastillo
    delaniecastillo Posts: 284
    Nice sentiments, I think you had the best of intentions and people can be dogmatic. But what I tend to see when things get nutso on here isn't one person demanding that another subscribes completely to their lifestyle and choices. It goes more like this:

    OP: Help! I'm struggling with (issue)

    Respondent: Okay, well (requests for more information)

    OP: (elaborates)

    Respondent: Okay you might want to (suggestion)

    OP: But (reason that's unacceptable)

    Respondent: But what you're doing now isn't effective because (reasons)

    OP: Not everyone is the same

    Respondent: But you asked for help because (thing) isn't working

    OP: Bully

    Third Person: Yeah Bully

    Crazy Person: I've never had that problem, always been slim.

    Fourth Person: (defends Respondent)

    Fifth Person: IN

    Respondent: (posts gif)

    OP posts second thread about how mean people are.




    A lot of people here ask questions they don't want the answers to.

    A. This is the truth. People ask questions and then add things like "I don't want to be told to eat more" "Don't tell me to do more/less of..." "I want nutrition advice, not advice on how much to eat." "I'm not going to stop working out a million hours a day so..." And it's just like....well why bother? Do you really want help, or do you want people to back you up and make you feel good about your choices?

    B. I'm person 5 and I suddenly feel very exposed....

    oooh, I'll be the giffer!
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  • brower47
    brower47 Posts: 16,356 Member
    Nice sentiments, I think you had the best of intentions and people can be dogmatic. But what I tend to see when things get nutso on here isn't one person demanding that another subscribes completely to their lifestyle and choices. It goes more like this:

    OP: Help! I'm struggling with (issue)

    Respondent: Okay, well (requests for more information)

    OP: (elaborates)

    Respondent: Okay you might want to (suggestion)

    OP: But (reason that's unacceptable)

    Respondent: But what you're doing now isn't effective because (reasons)

    OP: Not everyone is the same

    Respondent: But you asked for help because (thing) isn't working

    OP: Bully

    Third Person: Yeah Bully

    Crazy Person: I've never had that problem, always been slim.

    Fourth Person: (defends Respondent)

    Fifth Person: IN

    Respondent: (posts gif)

    OP posts second thread about how mean people are.




    A lot of people here ask questions they don't want the answers to.

    This multiplied by a googaplex!!!!!!!!!!
  • VeinsAndBones
    VeinsAndBones Posts: 550 Member
    Man the forums are filled with rustled jimmies today! :D Ain't it great?
  • liftingheavy1
    liftingheavy1 Posts: 112
    I've been here for about a month now, but I'm not new to weight loss and I am certainly not new to the basic techniques of research, reading, and learning. What comes across as "mean" or as "bullying" on MFP is often just a total lack of tolerance for idiocy. People come on here day in and day out and post stupid things, and obviously they are going to get reamed for it. Should they? ABSO-****ING-LUTELY. Why should we tolerate stupidity, misinformation, and broscience on a site designed for health and fitness advice/support/motivation? Sometimes people do deserved to get torn apart for propagating dumb ideas. Occasionally it might even inspire someone to read something from a trusted source and learn who was right--the OP or the bullies. If you can't understand that, then you should find yourself a place that can and will tolerate ignorance. Or maybe just stick to the success threads, where it's nice and cozy (well...except for the "clean eating" thread....don't go there either because it might hurt your feelings).

    must be so nice to be above above the fray, and be so omnipotent. ok you did your brownnosing good job.
  • ashleyisgreat
    ashleyisgreat Posts: 586 Member
    I've been here for about a month now, but I'm not new to weight loss and I am certainly not new to the basic techniques of research, reading, and learning. What comes across as "mean" or as "bullying" on MFP is often just a total lack of tolerance for idiocy. People come on here day in and day out and post stupid things, and obviously they are going to get reamed for it. Should they? ABSO-****ING-LUTELY. Why should we tolerate stupidity, misinformation, and broscience on a site designed for health and fitness advice/support/motivation? Sometimes people do deserved to get torn apart for propagating dumb ideas. Occasionally it might even inspire someone to read something from a trusted source and learn who was right--the OP or the bullies. If you can't understand that, then you should find yourself a place that can and will tolerate ignorance. Or maybe just stick to the success threads, where it's nice and cozy (well...except for the "clean eating" thread....don't go there either because it might hurt your feelings).

    must be so nice to be above above the fray, and be so omnipotent. ok you did your brownnosing good job.

    How does brown-nosing on the internet work, exactly? I want explicit details.
  • cmeiron
    cmeiron Posts: 1,599 Member
    I've been here for about a month now, but I'm not new to weight loss and I am certainly not new to the basic techniques of research, reading, and learning. What comes across as "mean" or as "bullying" on MFP is often just a total lack of tolerance for idiocy. People come on here day in and day out and post stupid things, and obviously they are going to get reamed for it. Should they? ABSO-****ING-LUTELY. Why should we tolerate stupidity, misinformation, and broscience on a site designed for health and fitness advice/support/motivation? Sometimes people do deserved to get torn apart for propagating dumb ideas. Occasionally it might even inspire someone to read something from a trusted source and learn who was right--the OP or the bullies. If you can't understand that, then you should find yourself a place that can and will tolerate ignorance. Or maybe just stick to the success threads, where it's nice and cozy (well...except for the "clean eating" thread....don't go there either because it might hurt your feelings).

    You. I like you.

    Same

    Me three.

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