Should I exercise or rest?

Had a banana for breakfast, and then went for a swim around 10 this morning, only did around 20/30 minutes worth as it began to get busy and filled with kids, although one of my apps suggested I would've burnt around 400 calories in that time that I did - so I'm more than sure that it'd have burnt off my banana.

Came home around 1 (as I visited some family after) and had a few rashers of bacon (with the fat cut off), 2 poached eggs and some beans - didn't have much food in so just threw some things together. For dinner I'm planning on having a jacket potato with tuna.

I'm not sure whether or not the morning exercise was enough for the day, because the other day I did bench presses for the first time, and now my pecs hurt...and going swimming seems to have made them hurt more. I feel like I should exercise after dinner because I'd feel like I was a failure if I didn't, and considering I'd like to loose around another 40lbs by next January...I need to work hard and I don't want to slack. Yesterday I had a rest, I went for a run in the morning but had a rest for the rest of the day, so I'd feel it'd be pointless to have yet another rest. But I don't know which is the best (or safest) thing to do.

Does anybody have any advice?

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  • jjdiggy
    jjdiggy Posts: 172
    Pushing this up.
  • 126siany
    126siany Posts: 1,386 Member
    Why do you feel the need to workout several times a day?

    I'm genuinely confused.
  • laciemn
    laciemn Posts: 77 Member
    My rule is that I try to avoid going 48 hours without working out. You don't have to unless you get close to two days without exercise.
  • jjdiggy
    jjdiggy Posts: 172
    Why do you feel the need to workout several times a day?

    I'm genuinely confused.

    To burn off what I have eaten during the day. Normally I go for a run after breakfast to try burn it off; and at night I normally exercise to burn off my lunch and dinner - since its the whole "burn more calories than you eat" to loose weight.
  • Capt_Apollo
    Capt_Apollo Posts: 9,026 Member
    you benched yesterday and swam today? thats tough man. swimming can be recuperative, but the one time i tried doing it after an Overhead press day it was tough. my form was horrible and i didn't last long.

    if you are hell bent on getting in another work out, i'd say go for a quick 20-30 minute run. two-a-days are not uncommon, but you need to be smart about how you schedule your work outs in the future.
  • laciemn
    laciemn Posts: 77 Member
    Also, if you are sore, just take some ibuprofen :). You could try to do some chest exercise though. It seems weird, but if you overwork a muscle, it's like you need to work it the same way again (maybe not quite so much) the next day to get the soreness to go away a little bit.
  • Capt_Apollo
    Capt_Apollo Posts: 9,026 Member
    Why do you feel the need to workout several times a day?

    I'm genuinely confused.

    To burn off what I have eaten during the day. Normally I go for a run after breakfast to try burn it off; and at night I normally exercise to burn off my lunch and dinner - since its the whole "burn more calories than you eat" to loose weight.

    thats not how it works. your stomach isn't a gas tank that immediately fuels a car engine. it takes a while for your body to metabolize food.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Why do you feel the need to workout several times a day?

    I'm genuinely confused.

    To burn off what I have eaten during the day. Normally I go for a run after breakfast to try burn it off; and at night I normally exercise to burn off my lunch and dinner - since its the whole "burn more calories than you eat" to loose weight.

    You burn calories all day - not just when you exercise. You do not need to exercise off everything you eat.

    This may help explain things: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/818082-exercise-calories-again-wtf
  • 126siany
    126siany Posts: 1,386 Member
    Why do you feel the need to workout several times a day?

    I'm genuinely confused.

    To burn off what I have eaten during the day. Normally I go for a run after breakfast to try burn it off; and at night I normally exercise to burn off my lunch and dinner - since its the whole "burn more calories than you eat" to loose weight.

    Couple of points here:

    Your body is always burning calories, even when you are sleeping.

    MFP has set your daily calorie goal so that you are already eating fewer calories than you are burning per day even if you never worked out.

    This mindset of trying to work off everything you eat is not a great relationship with food. Food is not your enemy!
  • Why do you feel the need to workout several times a day?

    I'm genuinely confused.

    To burn off what I have eaten during the day. Normally I go for a run after breakfast to try burn it off; and at night I normally exercise to burn off my lunch and dinner - since its the whole "burn more calories than you eat" to loose weight.

    Do you realise this doesn't mean exercise more calories than you eat?

    We burn calories just living, this is called BMR - how many calories your body needs to live if you were in a coma.
    Then there is your general every day activity level. Do you sit on your *kitten* all day vs are you moving constantly. (e.g. office worker vs nurse).

    MFP took all that into account when you signed up and inputted your information. I need 1400 calories a day to lose 1lb a week, that is with a 500 calorie deficit. (So if I ate 1900 calories I would maintain my weight).

    Then on top of that is any formal exercise you do. With MFP when you exercise you 'earn' those calories, and can eat them back. The recommendation is to only eat half back as often we overestimate the amount of calories burnt during exercise. When I exercise I need to eat an additional 100-200 calories. This will still lead me to lose 1lb a week.

    I fear the way you're doing it right now is just unsustainable.
  • wonderwoman234
    wonderwoman234 Posts: 551 Member
    A few thoughts here:

    1) I believe exercise is an act of self-care and is good for your body, mind and spirit. It is great for so many things and it just feels good. Our bodies were made for movement and exercise.
    2) Exercising as a form of punishment because you have the audacity to eat food does not seem like a sustainable mindset. You aren't burning off all the calories you consume when you exercise....you would not be able to function if you did.
    3) Eating food is normal, healthy, and necessary for life. Being worried that you did or didn't burn off the banana you ate makes me believe that you think food is your enemy. It is not. The way you view food, and dare I say yourself, seems like the real enemy.
    4) It is helpful to get exercise the day after a lifting session, especially one that leaves you sore, because it helps flow blood to those muscles, speeding repair/recovery. It is more than safe to do some light cardio using the sore muscles. Oh, and I don't think you have to do anything perfectly to lose weight. I really don't think stressing about doing the perfect exercise, and eating the perfect blend of foods, helps you achieve your goals. I would argue that it reinforces negative thoughts that caused you to gain weight in the first place.
    5) If you don't trust yourself to eat well and maintain a healthy exercise regimen, then you probably won't. The "diet" industry makes billions off of the idea that we humans can't be trusted around food. I would argue that with the right mindset, you absolutely can be trusted with food. I think that the "diet" mentality, which stresses punishment, deprivation, and self-hatred, feeds into the things that cause people to develop an unhealthy relationship with food and their bodies in the first place. Trusting yourself to take good care of your body will help you sustain the positive changes you have started to make for your lifetime.
  • jjdiggy
    jjdiggy Posts: 172
    A few thoughts here:

    1) I believe exercise is an act of self-care and is good for your body, mind and spirit. It is great for so many things and it just feels good. Our bodies were made for movement and exercise.
    2) Exercising as a form of punishment because you have the audacity to eat food does not seem like a sustainable mindset. You aren't burning off all the calories you consume when you exercise....you would not be able to function if you did.
    3) Eating food is normal, healthy, and necessary for life. Being worried that you did or didn't burn off the banana you ate makes me believe that you think food is your enemy. It is not. The way you view food, and dare I say yourself, seems like the real enemy.
    4) It is helpful to get exercise the day after a lifting session, especially one that leaves you sore, because it helps flow blood to those muscles, speeding repair/recovery. It is more than safe to do some light cardio using the sore muscles. Oh, and I don't think you have to do anything perfectly to lose weight. I really don't think stressing about doing the perfect exercise, and eating the perfect blend of foods, helps you achieve your goals. I would argue that it reinforces negative thoughts that caused you to gain weight in the first place.
    5) If you don't trust yourself to eat well and maintain a healthy exercise regimen, then you probably won't. The "diet" industry makes billions off of the idea that we humans can't be trusted around food. I would argue that with the right mindset, you absolutely can be trusted with food. I think that the "diet" mentality, which stresses punishment, deprivation, and self-hatred, feeds into the things that cause people to develop an unhealthy relationship with food and their bodies in the first place. Trusting yourself to take good care of your body will help you sustain the positive changes you have started to make for your lifetime.

    I have to say this changed my aspect of 'dieting' completely. Even though I've lost enough weight to make me feel confident, I've been going about it wrong since the very beginning. I reckon that could be the cause of my sudden faintness more recently because I'm using all my bodies 'fuel' so to speak and then feeling ill after. When it comes to the exercise segment of your post, regarding doing and exercise 'perfectly' is something which I have actually struggled with.

    I find regimes, or structured exercises on the internet which are stated to the more effective than running (like burpees, mountain climbers etc). When it comes to performing them, I find them far too advance for my liking, yet I still push and push and I end up feeling really ill after them (I mean, I did around 5 minutes of burpees the other day...and I haven't performed burpees since last year)...No wonder I had to stop. See, that's the issue. I must be over-doing a certain exercise which results in me ditching the rest of the workout and then I feel so guilty and then I don't eat.

    I guess I'm scared to eat sometimes, because my metabolism is appalling and I could eat a piece of bread and put on like a stone haha. I mean some days I'm scared to even eat the MFP limit, and end up under-eating by say 1000cal AS WELL AS exercising. I have to stop this...no wonder my weight is suddenly taking a long time to come off. Thanks you for this post, it helped me a lot.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    A few thoughts here:

    1) I believe exercise is an act of self-care and is good for your body, mind and spirit. It is great for so many things and it just feels good. Our bodies were made for movement and exercise.
    2) Exercising as a form of punishment because you have the audacity to eat food does not seem like a sustainable mindset. You aren't burning off all the calories you consume when you exercise....you would not be able to function if you did.
    3) Eating food is normal, healthy, and necessary for life. Being worried that you did or didn't burn off the banana you ate makes me believe that you think food is your enemy. It is not. The way you view food, and dare I say yourself, seems like the real enemy.
    4) It is helpful to get exercise the day after a lifting session, especially one that leaves you sore, because it helps flow blood to those muscles, speeding repair/recovery. It is more than safe to do some light cardio using the sore muscles. Oh, and I don't think you have to do anything perfectly to lose weight. I really don't think stressing about doing the perfect exercise, and eating the perfect blend of foods, helps you achieve your goals. I would argue that it reinforces negative thoughts that caused you to gain weight in the first place.
    5) If you don't trust yourself to eat well and maintain a healthy exercise regimen, then you probably won't. The "diet" industry makes billions off of the idea that we humans can't be trusted around food. I would argue that with the right mindset, you absolutely can be trusted with food. I think that the "diet" mentality, which stresses punishment, deprivation, and self-hatred, feeds into the things that cause people to develop an unhealthy relationship with food and their bodies in the first place. Trusting yourself to take good care of your body will help you sustain the positive changes you have started to make for your lifetime.

    This post....I like it!
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    OP: how long has it taken you to lose the 44lb you are showing on your ticker?
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  • jjdiggy
    jjdiggy Posts: 172
    OP: how long has it taken you to lose the 44lb you are showing on your ticker?

    44lbs down since last May. (I stopped from July-December). I started at 16st 10lbs last May, now 13st 8lbs...was 15st 6 when I started around 2/3 months ago. Confusing I know, but I've lost nearly 2st in 2 months.
  • Capt_Apollo
    Capt_Apollo Posts: 9,026 Member
    OP: how long has it taken you to lose the 44lb you are showing on your ticker?

    44lbs down since last May. (I stopped from July-December). I started at 16st 10lbs last May, now 13st 8lbs...was 15st 6 when I started around 2/3 months ago. Confusing I know, but I've lost nearly 2st in 2 months.


    not at all. you're an 18 year old kid. you can just look at a weight room and get buff.
  • jjdiggy
    jjdiggy Posts: 172
    OP: how long has it taken you to lose the 44lb you are showing on your ticker?

    44lbs down since last May. (I stopped from July-December). I started at 16st 10lbs last May, now 13st 8lbs...was 15st 6 when I started around 2/3 months ago. Confusing I know, but I've lost nearly 2st in 2 months.


    not at all. you're an 18 year old kid. you can just look at a weight room and get buff.

    Sorry I don't quite understand. Is this a compliment or...?

    **EDIT** - Never mind, I understand now
  • wonderwoman234
    wonderwoman234 Posts: 551 Member
    OP - I did not realize you were 18 when I wrote my post (not that I would have said anything different).

    I just want to congratulate you on your success and your MATURITY in wanting to lose weight the healthy way. You look terrific and more importantly, you seem to be a bright, nice young man. Looks only get you so far in life!

    As a recovering perfectionist, I have been down the road of feeling like whatever I was going was not good enough (exercise, calorie restriction, etc.). It took me until my mid 40's to figure out what really matters (good health, strength, properly fueling my body) and you, my dear young man, are figuring it out at the tender age of 18. Good for you!

    :)
  • jjdiggy
    jjdiggy Posts: 172
    OP - I did not realize you were 18 when I wrote my post (not that I would have said anything different).

    I just want to congratulate you on your success and your MATURITY in wanting to lose weight the healthy way. You look terrific and more importantly, you seem to be a bright, nice young man. Looks only get you so far in life!

    As a recovering perfectionist, I have been down the road of feeling like whatever I was going was not good enough (exercise, calorie restriction, etc.). It took me until my mid 40's to figure out what really matters (good health, strength, properly fueling my body) and you, my dear young man, are figuring it out at the tender age of 18. Good for you!

    :)

    Wow, this got me all overwhelmed. Thank you so, so much! My mum has battled anorexia 3 times in her life, and I know that it's a dangerous place to be. I was bullied for my weight, which is why I am doing something about it. It was only until somebody called me fat that I thought "I need to sort this out". At first I was all for not eating, but then I realized it is not a solution.

    No pills, no shakes, no 'fitness clubs'. Just simple self knowledge of what is right and wrong, extensive research and now I am halfway there...all thanks to the boy who called me fat. Running (or any intense cardio) and eating clean..that's all you need.

    Thank you so much, again. :)
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    OP: how long has it taken you to lose the 44lb you are showing on your ticker?

    44lbs down since last May. (I stopped from July-December). I started at 16st 10lbs last May, now 13st 8lbs...was 15st 6 when I started around 2/3 months ago. Confusing I know, but I've lost nearly 2st in 2 months.

    2st in 2 months is really really quick...too quick to sustain. The main thing is to create sustainable habits. Keep active, start lifting some weights if you do not do it already, and be patient.
  • Springfield1970
    Springfield1970 Posts: 1,945 Member
    Had a banana for breakfast, and then went for a swim around 10 this morning, only did around 20/30 minutes worth as it began to get busy and filled with kids, although one of my apps suggested I would've burnt around 400 calories in that time that I did - so I'm more than sure that it'd have burnt off my banana.

    Came home around 1 (as I visited some family after) and had a few rashers of bacon (with the fat cut off), 2 poached eggs and some beans - didn't have much food in so just threw some things together. For dinner I'm planning on having a jacket potato with tuna.

    I'm not sure whether or not the morning exercise was enough for the day, because the other day I did bench presses for the first time, and now my pecs hurt...and going swimming seems to have made them hurt more. I feel like I should exercise after dinner because I'd feel like I was a failure if I didn't, and considering I'd like to loose around another 40lbs by next January...I need to work hard and I don't want to slack. Yesterday I had a rest, I went for a run in the morning but had a rest for the rest of the day, so I'd feel it'd be pointless to have yet another rest. But I don't know which is the best (or safest) thing to do.

    Does anybody have any advice?

    Hi!

    Just for context, I eat about 700 calories for breakfast 2/3 hours before my 30 minute swim, and I know I'll still be struggling as most of that breakfast will be filling my glycogen depleted body from it's sleep, and I'd have eaten to maintenance with big dinner the day before.

    So, a lot of that breakfast will be used to just 'live' without exercise. Probably use 250-300 of it for the swim.

    I wasn't always like this with food, I restricted badly and had lots of shame and confusion.

    Much happier and healthier now that I can track and eat the right amounts. Up to 3000 some days.

    My body fat is lower and my measurements are better than when I was your age at the same weight I am now.

    I'm 5'7" 127lb and 43.

    Keep at it! Keep reading! Good luck.
  • justcat206
    justcat206 Posts: 716 Member


    :)

    Wow, this got me all overwhelmed. Thank you so, so much! My mum has battled anorexia 3 times in her life, and I know that it's a dangerous place to be.

    Relieved to hear you say this. As another former anorexic, your posts were setting off some major red flags for me. I know it's hard, but the less emotionally attached you can be to food and exercize the easier this process will be on you. Find a form of fitness that you love and try setting goals that are NOT body related and then reframe your view of food as "fuel to hit my goals." Sometimes it's hard to do, and it's easy to panic if you plateau, but just keep in mind that your mental and emotional health is just as important as your physical health :) Best wishes for your journey!