Don't forget to get your Flu Shot!
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paperpudding wrote: »I'll never get another flu shot! I got one last Thursday morning and by Thurs evening I was broke out all over with terrible hives. My face arms & chest are covered in raised painful hives, and now I'm taking prednisone to try to counteract the reaction.
Come to find out thimerosal is a preservative in the flu shot I got.
From the CDC FAQ "Although no evidence suggests that there are safety concerns with thimerosal, vaccine manufacturers have stopped using it as a precautionary measure.The only vaccine that still includes thimerosal as a preservative is the multi-dose inactivated influenza vaccine. There are other formulations of flu vaccine that do not include thimerosal. "
WARNING if you have a sensitivity to this preservative, I found out the hard way.
Can I ask what country you are in?
again, because in Australia we do not use multi dose flu vaccines - all flu vaccines are single use only.
But, just like we dont have nasal spray vaccines here, they may be in other places.
Anyway, like PP said and your own quote says, there are other formulations without thimerosal so why dont you just have one of them?
I live in the US. Yes I have found that there are other formulations, but I'm just guessing that the preservative is the problem, dr would not confirm or deny. Nothing other different that day or even days prior to the shot, so I draw my own conclusions. Do I want to do this again next year just to confirm.... Hell no. I'll take my chances with the flu.0 -
paperpudding wrote: »I'll never get another flu shot! I got one last Thursday morning and by Thurs evening I was broke out all over with terrible hives. My face arms & chest are covered in raised painful hives, and now I'm taking prednisone to try to counteract the reaction.
Come to find out thimerosal is a preservative in the flu shot I got.
From the CDC FAQ "Although no evidence suggests that there are safety concerns with thimerosal, vaccine manufacturers have stopped using it as a precautionary measure.The only vaccine that still includes thimerosal as a preservative is the multi-dose inactivated influenza vaccine. There are other formulations of flu vaccine that do not include thimerosal. "
WARNING if you have a sensitivity to this preservative, I found out the hard way.
Can I ask what country you are in?
again, because in Australia we do not use multi dose flu vaccines - all flu vaccines are single use only.
But, just like we dont have nasal spray vaccines here, they may be in other places.
Anyway, like PP said and your own quote says, there are other formulations without thimerosal so why dont you just have one of them?
Most adults in the US will get the single dose shot. The multi-dose version is usually for those that have a medical condition requiring them to get several lower dose versions of the shot over a period of time because they have an increased risk of reaction.0 -
Had mine today--free at work. I hate getting them. I must have minor allergic reactions to them...I always have flu-like symptoms for a week or so afterwards (yes, I understand it's not a live virus so I don't actually have the flu). Even with the reaction, I would rather keep my family safe, so I take the precautions!0
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FYI. If you are sick for 2 days that is not the flu. Thats a bad cold or another virus. Influenza will knock you out for a week. The flu shot is super important for anyone coming into contact with those who are imuno compromized or cannot get the shot.
I get it every year. I do my part to help make society healthier. Also I cannot afford to miss a week of work...so theres that.0 -
I work from home, and my only outing is to the feed store. If you're immunocompromised, please refrain from buying anything from me so as not to risk contamination. Otherwise, it is not my responsibility to keep you healthy. In return, I will do my part by staying home if I get sick (which is where the stupid problem comes from-all the dingbats who are vomiting, achy, and running a 102+ fever and say, "But I think i'll go to walmart.")0
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Never had the shot, never plan to get one :-) Never had the flu either. I'll take my chances and let my immune system do it's job.0
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last time I had the flu shot I had an alergic reaction and was in bed for 2 weeks...I'll pass
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No you are exercising your right to choose to have a shot or not. The flu shot is only good if they happened to get the correct strain this year. If not, you'll get the flu anyway. Not to mention that multi-dose vials of the flu vaccine contain small amounts of mercury used to keep it from developing bacteria. On top of that a small percent of those who get the flu shot can develop Guillain-Barré syndrome.
I am neither for or against flu shots. It is as far as I am concerned a choice that adults should be able to make on there own. Now if on the other hand it was 99.9% accurate and prevented the disease, ie the measles vaccine, then I would be all for it. But until that time I feel it is a choice.
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/vaccine/guillainbarre.htm
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/vaccine/thimerosal.htm
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/vaccineeffect.htm
My mom developed Guillain-Barré syndrome after a flu shot. She was paralyzed for two months. Still has a little numbness in her toes and occasional nerve pain.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »I'll never get another flu shot! I got one last Thursday morning and by Thurs evening I was broke out all over with terrible hives. My face arms & chest are covered in raised painful hives, and now I'm taking prednisone to try to counteract the reaction.
Come to find out thimerosal is a preservative in the flu shot I got.
From the CDC FAQ "Although no evidence suggests that there are safety concerns with thimerosal, vaccine manufacturers have stopped using it as a precautionary measure.The only vaccine that still includes thimerosal as a preservative is the multi-dose inactivated influenza vaccine. There are other formulations of flu vaccine that do not include thimerosal. "
WARNING if you have a sensitivity to this preservative, I found out the hard way.
Can I ask what country you are in?
again, because in Australia we do not use multi dose flu vaccines - all flu vaccines are single use only.
But, just like we dont have nasal spray vaccines here, they may be in other places.
Anyway, like PP said and your own quote says, there are other formulations without thimerosal so why dont you just have one of them?
Most adults in the US will get the single dose shot. The multi-dose version is usually for those that have a medical condition requiring them to get several lower dose versions of the shot over a period of time because they have an increased risk of reaction.
No, thats not what is meant by single dose and multi dose vaccines.
children under 9 here have 2 doses too and there is a half strength dose for children under 3 and I believe a very few adults in specific risk groups - but they still get each shot via a single use dose, not a multi dose vial.
Multi dose vials are used for very few things, certainly no vaccines here.
But things like insulin where one draws several doses out of the one vial - thats what is meant by multi dose.
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Got mine!0
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KandGRanch wrote: »I work from home, and my only outing is to the feed store. If you're immunocompromised, please refrain from buying anything from me so as not to risk contamination. Otherwise, it is not my responsibility to keep you healthy. In return, I will do my part by staying home if I get sick (which is where the stupid problem comes from-all the dingbats who are vomiting, achy, and running a 102+ fever and say, "But I think i'll go to walmart.")
You can have it, be asymptomatic and contagious.
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I haven't had the flu in many many many many.. Blood moons.0
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I work at a hospital, am not getting a flu shot, never will, and am not sorry about it. *coughs all over everyone*0
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paperpudding wrote: »Cait_Sidhe wrote: »BeautifulChaos27 wrote: »I have a terrible phobia of needles. Hyperventaliating and all. I'd rather get the flu. SOO.. no thanks.
Just FYI, most influenza vaccines are a nasal spray.
really???
Not in Australia they aren't - all influenza vaccines here are an injection.
Have not heard of nasal spray flu vaccines - afaik, no vaccines for anything are yet available as nasal sprays. I certainly havent come across any in many years of working in immunisation.
Please let us know which country you are in, where there are nasal spray vaccines.
I'm in the UK and nasal spray vaccines are being offered to 4 yr olds, and maybe some other sections of the population (can't remember exactly which people are being recommended them and which are recommended the injections)
they're definitely real.
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http://www.vox.com/2014/11/16/7223443/causes-death-america
Flu is killing 6 times more people now (with the vaccine) than in 1900 (with no vaccine) according to this graph which has no explanation behind it that I found on www.vox.com. Let the conspiracy theories begin!0 -
No thanks!
It flares my chronic illness badly. 0 -
neandermagnon wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »Cait_Sidhe wrote: »BeautifulChaos27 wrote: »I have a terrible phobia of needles. Hyperventaliating and all. I'd rather get the flu. SOO.. no thanks.
Just FYI, most influenza vaccines are a nasal spray.
really???
Not in Australia they aren't - all influenza vaccines here are an injection.
Have not heard of nasal spray flu vaccines - afaik, no vaccines for anything are yet available as nasal sprays. I certainly havent come across any in many years of working in immunisation.
Please let us know which country you are in, where there are nasal spray vaccines.
I'm in the UK and nasal spray vaccines are being offered to 4 yr olds, and maybe some other sections of the population (can't remember exactly which people are being recommended them and which are recommended the injections)
they're definitely real.
Yes, so I found out earlier in the thread.
they are real - but they are not available in Australia.
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No thanks, I am not putting that garbage inside my body. Do you have a quota to fill?0
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darkrose20 wrote: »http://www.vox.com/2014/11/16/7223443/causes-death-america
Flu is killing 6 times more people now (with the vaccine) than in 1900 (with no vaccine) according to this graph which has no explanation behind it that I found on www.vox.com. Let the conspiracy theories begin!
That is odd - the graph I saw at that link shows that for pneumonia or influenza: in 1900, there were 202.2 deaths per 100,000 and 16.2 deaths per 100,000 in 2010.
That is actually a death rate from pneumonia or influeza of more than 12 times higher in 1900 than in 2010... and vaccines were available in 2010.
I think you mis-read the graph.0
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