Why the study that showed taking vitamins don't work, is wrong.

I found the video interesting. Thanks for posting

Here's a source I trust. The Mayo Clinic. Let's see what they recommend:

http://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/take-vitamin-supplements-with-caution-some-may-actually-cause-harm/

there is increasing evidence against taking most supplements for general health or disease prevention. There are exceptions — such as calcium and vitamin D for bone health — but even the exceptions should be approached with caution.

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Another reason people take supplements is to help prevent serious diseases. Studies have consistently shown that diets high in antioxidant-rich fruits, vegetables and other plant foods are associated with lower rates of cancer and heart disease. However, studies looking at supplements, including antioxidants such as beta carotene and vitamins A and E, haven't shown much benefit and there is some evidence they may actually cause harm.

By hey...if you feel they're beneficial to you, by all means, go for it.

dewd2 wrote: »

I had no idea who Joe Rogan was so I did some research. This is the same guy who thinks the Apollo moon landings are fake? And some nonsense about the World Trade Center collapse? Sorry, but suddenly Dr. Oz seems more credible.

Joe Rogan entertained the possibility that the moon landings were fake, but finally conceded that the Moon Landing was most likely real. In Joe's words, he "couldn't find a smart person that believed in the moon hoax"

Don't let his childlike enthusiasm throw you off. He's just a curious guy looking at life and asking questions.

"Each video is loaded with tons of valuable content on how to hack your health to extend your healthspan." -Dr. Rhonda Patrick

"I've made a bunch of videos on topics like how using the sauna may increase longevity and may improve other things like athletic performance, what the effects of supplemental antioxidants on cancer, how DHA in krill oil is used by brain, how diet and lifestyle influence aging and brain function, how to personalize your diet based on your genes, my various healthy recipes, and responses to headlines such as those claiming that cancer is just due to bad luck." -Dr. Rhonda Patrick

This is a shtick, not science -- zero credibility, IMO.

Horrorfox wrote: »

Once again this message board plagues itself with ignorance.

@7lenny7 "I think"

Did you bother listening to the video(s), or did you just see the word vitamin in the title, and then reply with your opinion?

@isulo_kura

Because someone actually showing data backed up by science means they're working for a supplement company?

@Horrorfox I never said that I just asked a question. Also because people do not agree with your viewpoint does not mean ignorance. It means we have an opinion and don't immediately except some spoonfed you tube video. Also a few videos quoting a point of view and where she thinks other's science is flawed does not mean backed by science. There's some interesting points in the videos 'which I have watched' but one point of view does not equal definitive proof of anything. I can find dozens of studies 'backed by science' saying the total opposite.

In reality it all comes down to common sense. If you don't have a medical condition and can't get all your nutrition via food you're obviously doing something wrong. If you wish to throw money at the supplement companies that's fine your choice but remember when looking at science one persons point of view rarely proves anything. It's the body of science that has an effect. From my reading the body of science is that multi vitamins are generally pretty much waste of time.

One point that seems to always be ignored on these threads. These recommendations (or recommendations against) are for the general public. Do they stand accurate for those who are dieting (artificial famine) or those who are more physically active than the average person?

I don't take vitamins because of the price but I'm seriously considering it. Throughout my 2 years of dieting I have had low iron readings 4 times (treated it acutely with shots) and my B12 is almost always in the deficiency range (before dieting it used to be borderline). Those are just the ones I tested. I'm 100% sure the ones I haven't tested have suffered as well. Note that this is coming from a person who generally eats nutrient-rich foods.

So I watched the initial video. What I saw was a peer - regardless of your view on this women's credentials or reputation I consider her learning adequate to equate her with the authors of the original piece - review of an article published in a medical journal. What I saw was a fellow scientist that was unhappy with the work proposed to her and stating a case for why she felt that the conclusions drawn were potentially flawed. What I did not see was someone saying we should take multi-vitamins, just someone that said the to stop taking them and stop researching it was potentially a bad idea based off the flaws in a journal article.

There seems to be so much assumption that just because she says the journal article was bad, that she was somehow saying that we should all take multi-vitamins, in fact what I drew was that based off that article we shouldn't just throw all future ideas in the bin. She suggested that in fact more research was necessary (I have to agree with that) and that we should stop writing articles with sensationalist headings.

Too often we twist the results of studies to fit our own beliefs or generalize them too much that they start getting applied to things outside their scope. We all have a duty to try and recognise what is being said before we act on it. To me its not about reputation, its about good scientific process and interpretation. I believe that Dr Rhonda found flaws in the approach the article had taken and the conclusions it had reached, however she didn't use those flaws to suggest that the opposite was true, just that we should look more closely and apply better science.

Horrorfox wrote: »

@aggelikik On the first post, I linked the about her profile on her website. On the bottom of the page shows the papers she's had published.

These papers do not appear related to the topic of multivitamin supplements and their effect on the average person though.