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  • DorkothyParkerDorkothyParker Posts: 618Member Member Posts: 618Member Member
    @NorthCascades I was thinking more like the exercise was the currency and the food was a "luxury" being bought.
    I just don't feel comfortable with this concept. I know other people do. It's not saying CICO doesn't matter, but food isn't a luxury to be bought with exercise. It has a health and cultural value in and of itself.
  • NorthCascadesNorthCascades Posts: 9,356Member Member Posts: 9,356Member Member
    Well, energy is the currency, food is a way of getting more of it into your body to replenish what you've used up. It's not a luxury, it's an everyday necessity. (A long bike ride in the sun is a luxury.)

    I don't like putting gas in my car, but I can see the fuel gauge go from full to empty when I drive, and the way stuff works, I have to put my gas in my car when I drive more.
  • TheWidowJonesTheWidowJones Posts: 29Member, Premium Member Posts: 29Member, Premium Member
    I don't like putting gas in my car, but I can see the fuel gauge go from full to empty when I drive, and the way stuff works, I have to put my gas in my car when I drive more.

    This really made me think. Thank you!

  • positivepowerspositivepowers Posts: 902Member Member Posts: 902Member Member
    kanerz14 wrote: »
    Hi all hoping you can maybe settle and internal debate I've been having of late.

    Is there anything wrong or of concern to get into the mindset that it's okay to excercise to enable you to eat more? Something does not sit well in my mind and I worry that as I continue in weight maintenance, my exercising has shifted more from the health aspect to the "I wanna have a beer and pizza so I'd better run 10 miles"

    Unfortunately my desire to eat more has increased in maintenance so I'm therefore running much more. (Have got quite good at it infact) and I enjoy the increased flexibility that running affords me.

    Views, opinions and sciencey things welcome.

    This is what I do and why I began running at all.

  • positivepowerspositivepowers Posts: 902Member Member Posts: 902Member Member
    If I realize the only reason I'm going to work out is to eat more or because I've overeaten, I don't do it! I used to be stuck in a cycle of restricting and binging and then trying to compensate for binging, so I avoid anything that seems like a compensation measure.

    The other thing is that I really enjoy working out! I mean, sure it's hard and sometimes the last thing I want to do, but for the most part I love it. I definitely don't want to ruin that by making it a punishment for having eaten too much or by making it the way I earn my food. It's to make myself stronger and faster and bendier and healthier!

    Now, don't get me wrong, I eat all my exercise calories back and enjoy every one of them, but that's just a perk of working out, not the point of it!

    If you're super hungry, I second what @feisty_bucket said.. maybe you're not eating at true maintenance or maybe not getting enough fat or protein. Maybe your maintenance has changed or MFP isn't correct. I follow what they tell me is maintenance, but I think I'm really in a very slight deficit, although that could be due to other factors, like having my activity level set wrong or not logging my exercise calories burned exactly right.

    Why does the motivation to work out matter? I enjoy working out (most of the time) now, too, but I began working out so I could have treats, rather than stick with my rather restrictive 1400 calorie diet.

    Not only am I now in much better shape, but my blood sugars have normalized as well - and all this happened because eating a strict 1400 calories/day seemed depressing and restrictive. I like the fact that I "earn" my extra calories by working out.
  • auddiiauddii Posts: 15,410Member Member Posts: 15,410Member Member
    I could never survive trying to stay within my calorie goal if I were completely sedentary. Instead, I decided to incorporate more exercise into my daily schedule (daily walks in addition to additional cardio workouts). This gives me a much more reasonable daily calorie goal.
  • kirstinethornburgkirstinethornburg Posts: 300Member Member Posts: 300Member Member
    Talk to a professioanl either a personal trainer, a nutrtionist or your family Doctor
  • Forty6and2Forty6and2 Posts: 2,521Member Member Posts: 2,521Member Member
    I actually started exercising more to manage my mental health but I did definitely used to be part of the "I ate pizza, now I have to spend forever in the gym to make up for it." That made me miserable and made me hate exercise. Once I got past this, I began to love exercise so much that I now teach exercise classes at my university. Now, if I have pizza, I have pizza. I try to make sure I plan for it so it fits into my calories but if it doesn't, it's just one day and it won't kill me.

    Also, I like to put exercise in the "fun" category as mentioned before. My profile picture is from a day when a friend and I went running and found some rocks to climb on. I probably didn't burn too many calories that day, but I had a heck of a lot of fun!
  • RoxieDawnRoxieDawn Posts: 15,518Member, Premium Member Posts: 15,518Member, Premium Member
    Unfortunately unless I eat, I do not exercise. My running demands that I eat with a purpose to exercise. I enjoy exercising and I enjoy eating..all of these events are fun for me... so WIN WIN.

    I don't think it is grossly unhealthy to want to eat more and exercise more to do this.. I think that I may be doing this thing already but not really ever thought about it like the OP is describing it. But with this type of eating and exercising I also maintain my weight by doing what I do. again WIN WIN

    I think it is calling a spade a spade.

  • Machka9Machka9 Posts: 14,957Member Member Posts: 14,957Member Member
    Forty6and2 wrote: »
    ... but I did definitely used to be part of the "I ate pizza, now I have to spend forever in the gym to make up for it." ...

    I come at it from the perspective of ... I get to go for a long bicycle ride and then eat pizza after. What a great day! :)

  • fishgutzyfishgutzy Posts: 2,824Member Member Posts: 2,824Member Member
    I look at it quite simply.
    Eat to lose weight.
    Exercise to eat more.
    Exercise, in my case swimming 4 miles a day, gives me more room to play with.
  • DorkothyParkerDorkothyParker Posts: 618Member Member Posts: 618Member Member
    @JaneiR36 Not saying that exercise doesn't burn calories. Enable is a funny word. I like to eat whatever my body needs within a certain range. Because I feed it lots of fat and protein, it's usually pretty honest with me. I do occasionally overdo it on fake sugars (Damn you Quest!). I try to be careful.
    In any case, it doesn't matter what exercise I have done that particular day, I keep with my exercise plan on a weekly basis (occasionally switch days).

    I think my perspective is from when I would be coming in from a lunch hour run and folks would ask if I was running off a cookie (I work at a bank that bakes cookies in-branch on Fridays.) That really pissed me off. I understand for some people exercise has the benefit of enabling them to maintain their calorie deficit. That's fine. But I *personally* am not comfortable with the mindset due to my previous eating disorder. (Almost 5 years recovered, with some occasional slippage.)

    As a recovered anorexic and I can see myself falling into orthorexia or other some such obsessive behavior with that mindset.

    Yes, exercise burns a few hundred calories and you can have an extra beer or whatever. It's your life. It's not my view.
  • NorthCascadesNorthCascades Posts: 9,356Member Member Posts: 9,356Member Member
    I think Dorkothy Parker was pretty astute to recognize the body's energy needs are a type of economy, just like money is. :smile:
  • rhtexasgalrhtexasgal Posts: 541Member Member Posts: 541Member Member
    I have found that in maintenance, the calories I am allotted does not seem enough because I am always hungry. However, if I add a little extra cardio to my existing cardio and weight lifting, I earn some more calories that I can "feed the furnace" with and feel better. Both ways, I have a similar calorie deficit but with the extra cardio and food, I feel better. It could be a total psychological thing but I stick with what makes me feels good that I can also maintain for long term.

    There are a few times when I am deliberate about doing an extra workout or two to earn extra calories to eat. Those would be those times like a girls day out or an anticipated date night when I plan to eat dessert ... stuff like that.
  • robininflrobininfl Posts: 1,144Member Member Posts: 1,144Member Member
    RoxieDawn wrote: »
    Unfortunately unless I eat, I do not exercise. My running demands that I eat with a purpose to exercise. I enjoy exercising and I enjoy eating..all of these events are fun for me... so WIN WIN.

    (chopped)

    I am in the same boat. I used to be able to be much less careful with eating - would just have popcorn for supper, no big deal, I already ate today, right? Stuffed most of my calories into lunch, only ate supper if I was hungry, if not hungry I'd make it for everyone else then pack it for lunch the next day. Weight stayed low. I can't eat like that and run in the mornings. If I do not have a good supper, run feels like CRAP, just awful. But if I don't eat a good lunch and something at teatime, I won't be strong enough for yoga in the evenings.

    So it's not just "exercise so you can eat more", it is also "eat so you can exercise".
  • positivepowerspositivepowers Posts: 902Member Member Posts: 902Member Member
    Talk to a professioanl either a personal trainer, a nutrtionist or your family Doctor

    Do NOT go to a nutritionist!

    Nutritionists are non-accredited people off the street who go to a 2 hour class, or not, and call themselves a "nutritionist." The term nutritionists is not defined by law, anyone can call themselves a nutritionist.

    A Registered Dietician has a degree from a credited university and state licensure and accreditation. If you're going to go to someone for diet advice, go to an RD!
  • just_Tomekjust_Tomek Posts: 7,212Member Member Posts: 7,212Member Member
    Eat whole foods is #1.
    Move a little, Lift a little. Everyday. Now this "little" will vary a lot for each of us but the premis is the same. And I think most of us do it to stay healthy and look good. Otherwise why bother?
  • gradchica27gradchica27 Posts: 555Member Member Posts: 555Member Member
    I definitely exercise to give myself wiggle room with food. Otherwise I feel restricted, which is not good for me, mentally--I feel like I'm on a diet. Eat to fuel exercise, exercise to eat more. Win win.

    I've also noticed I make better food choices when I exercise--partially bc the food fuels performance and partially bc I don't want to "waste" my hard work. When I don't exercise, it's bread and ice cream, sugar cravings and veggie aversion. Don't know why, but it happens on any long break for me. So exercise is now a way of life.
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