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Is dairy good or bad?

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  • Alluminati
    Alluminati Posts: 6,208 Member
    Sodium Bicarbonate. Dun dun dun.....
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    Alluminati wrote: »
    Sodium Bicarbonate. Dun dun dun.....

    It actually has two sources of sodium bicarbonate, so that is bi-sodium-bicarbonate:
    http://healthwyze.org/reports/134-the-worst-restaurant-of-the-year-award-goes-to-kentucky-fried-chicken-kfc

    "Kentucky Fried Chicken is perhaps the only restaurant chain that will keep an employee who urinates in the food, as in the case of worker Casey Diedrich of Omaha, Nebraska. The toxic canola oil fumes provide yet another reason to avoid KFC altogether."

    Mr. or Ms. Diedrich urinates canola oil? That's disturbing. What condition causes that?
  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    RLester67 wrote: »
    3bambi3 wrote: »
    brichards_ wrote: »
    brichards_ wrote: »
    BillMcKay1 wrote: »
    BillMcKay1 wrote: »
    brichards_ wrote: »
    ccrdragon wrote: »
    brichards_ wrote: »
    Dairy is bad. It can cause acne, and does for me. It can also be a big cause of constipation and bloating. It depleats the body of calium and can cause cancer. Plus on an ethical side it's bad. It is high in fat and has cholesterol in it which your body doesn't need or want.

    If it causes acne in your body, it it bad for YOU - that doesn't make it bad for everyone. Same goes for the bloating and constipation... as for the cancer reference, I would love to see a scientific study that links milk consumption to cancer.

    Also, your body needs both fat and cholesterol to survive... there are vitamins that your body cannot process without the presence of fat. And the links from dietary cholesterol to serum cholesterol (i.e. the amount in your blood) have all but been disproved in recent studies.

    Milk is not healthy. It causes diseases, and it does cause acne. You can research and see for yourself. The dairy industry pays a lot of money for advertisement and to cover the fact that they are unhealthy. I would parallel it to when doctors used to recommend smoking. The body does not need any extra cholesterol because it makes its own. I didn't say don't eat any fat, just eat lower fat, and less saturated and/or unnatural fat. Dairy, especially cheese contains more saturated fat than if think anyone would like to consume if they were being health conscious. Milk irritates your system, causing bloating and constipation due to the fact that humans aren't meant to consume a cows breast milk, they shouldn't still be breast feeding as teens and adults. Their bodies don't enjoy eating strange hormones and pus cells.

    Dairy does literally none of those things to me. Thank you northern european lactose tolerating genes. If you don't wish to consume dairy for your own principles, fine to each their own. Spreading false alarmist info is not cool.

    What if you're not Northern European though?

    Still doesn't make dairy bad. Just means if you are personally lactose intolerant, probably not the best for you. I can't eat Kimchi without severe repercussions, does that make Kimchi a horrible food that even people who can tolerate should stop eating? I also break out from Mangoes. Everyone should stop eating mangoes.
    I'm not lactose intolerant though. It's not made up stuff, though it doesn't seem to affect many people, if they stopped consuming dairy, they'd probably see good results.

    I eat vegan for more than a month twice a year. The only results I keep seeing is missing dairy and anxiously waiting to be able to eat it again.
    find dairy replacements. It's because there is a chemical in dairy that makes it literally addictive.

    What chemical? What makes it addictive?

    The same one The Colonel puts in his chicken to make you crave it fortnightly.

    Wait...dairy has baking soda in it?

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    I was thinking the same thing.
  • rebel_26
    rebel_26 Posts: 1,826 Member
    edited August 2016
    lmao at everyone responding to breeze in a serious response. I like milk...id bathe in it if it weren't so expensive.
  • French_Peasant
    French_Peasant Posts: 1,639 Member
    3bambi3 wrote: »
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    Alluminati wrote: »
    Sodium Bicarbonate. Dun dun dun.....

    It actually has two sources of sodium bicarbonate, so that is bi-sodium-bicarbonate:
    http://healthwyze.org/reports/134-the-worst-restaurant-of-the-year-award-goes-to-kentucky-fried-chicken-kfc

    "Kentucky Fried Chicken is perhaps the only restaurant chain that will keep an employee who urinates in the food, as in the case of worker Casey Diedrich of Omaha, Nebraska. The toxic canola oil fumes provide yet another reason to avoid KFC altogether."

    Mr. or Ms. Diedrich urinates canola oil? That's disturbing. What condition causes that?

    Casein addiction.

    Thermos effect.
  • KetoneKaren
    KetoneKaren Posts: 6,411 Member
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  • nutmegoreo
    nutmegoreo Posts: 15,532 Member
    htimpaired wrote: »
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    brichards_ wrote: »
    BillMcKay1 wrote: »
    BillMcKay1 wrote: »
    brichards_ wrote: »
    ccrdragon wrote: »
    brichards_ wrote: »
    Dairy is bad. It can cause acne, and does for me. It can also be a big cause of constipation and bloating. It depleats the body of calium and can cause cancer. Plus on an ethical side it's bad. It is high in fat and has cholesterol in it which your body doesn't need or want.

    If it causes acne in your body, it it bad for YOU - that doesn't make it bad for everyone. Same goes for the bloating and constipation... as for the cancer reference, I would love to see a scientific study that links milk consumption to cancer.

    Also, your body needs both fat and cholesterol to survive... there are vitamins that your body cannot process without the presence of fat. And the links from dietary cholesterol to serum cholesterol (i.e. the amount in your blood) have all but been disproved in recent studies.

    Milk is not healthy. It causes diseases, and it does cause acne. You can research and see for yourself. The dairy industry pays a lot of money for advertisement and to cover the fact that they are unhealthy. I would parallel it to when doctors used to recommend smoking. The body does not need any extra cholesterol because it makes its own. I didn't say don't eat any fat, just eat lower fat, and less saturated and/or unnatural fat. Dairy, especially cheese contains more saturated fat than if think anyone would like to consume if they were being health conscious. Milk irritates your system, causing bloating and constipation due to the fact that humans aren't meant to consume a cows breast milk, they shouldn't still be breast feeding as teens and adults. Their bodies don't enjoy eating strange hormones and pus cells.

    Dairy does literally none of those things to me. Thank you northern european lactose tolerating genes. If you don't wish to consume dairy for your own principles, fine to each their own. Spreading false alarmist info is not cool.

    What if you're not Northern European though?

    Still doesn't make dairy bad. Just means if you are personally lactose intolerant, probably not the best for you. I can't eat Kimchi without severe repercussions, does that make Kimchi a horrible food that even people who can tolerate should stop eating? I also break out from Mangoes. Everyone should stop eating mangoes.
    I'm not lactose intolerant though. It's not made up stuff, though it doesn't seem to affect many people, if they stopped consuming dairy, they'd probably see good results.

    So the acne I never had (except briefly and mildly as a 13-14 year old, when I didn't consume much dairy at all) will clear up? Cool, totally worth it!

    Probably not. You're probably already addicted so you'll never give up dairy.
    Though I won't be so rude as to feel sorry for you about it.

    I need to go to a support group for my dairy use. Last night I sold my last oreos for some 2% in the back alley.

    Holy *babysloth* I hope I never have to make the choice between Oreos and milk. I'm so sorry you had to endure this.
  • ouryve
    ouryve Posts: 572 Member
    Alluminati wrote: »
    Sodium Bicarbonate. Dun dun dun.....

    It actually has two sources of sodium bicarbonate, so that is bi-sodium-bicarbonate:
    http://healthwyze.org/reports/134-the-worst-restaurant-of-the-year-award-goes-to-kentucky-fried-chicken-kfc

    Just the one. NaHCO3, sodium hydrogen carbonate.
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    I had the skin problem thing with dairy, not acne, but small white bumps around my chin and forehead . Since switching to A2 milk and yogurt it has dramatically cleared up.

    I do however still use protein powder (100% casein). Does anyone know if this causes the same problems as milk/yogurt if one has a lactose intolerance or whatever it is i have?
  • Carlos_421
    Carlos_421 Posts: 5,132 Member
    I had the skin problem thing with dairy, not acne, but small white bumps around my chin and forehead . Since switching to A2 milk and yogurt it has dramatically cleared up.

    I do however still use protein powder (100% casein). Does anyone know if this causes the same problems as milk/yogurt if one has a lactose intolerance or whatever it is i have?

    Unlikely, but whatever caused the small white bumps is not lactose intolerance. Lactose intolerance causes gastrointestinal distress.
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    I had the skin problem thing with dairy, not acne, but small white bumps around my chin and forehead . Since switching to A2 milk and yogurt it has dramatically cleared up.

    I do however still use protein powder (100% casein). Does anyone know if this causes the same problems as milk/yogurt if one has a lactose intolerance or whatever it is i have?

    Unlikely, but whatever caused the small white bumps is not lactose intolerance. Lactose intolerance causes gastrointestinal distress.

    That's what i thought, but i don't know what to call it. I definitely don't have any GI issues.
  • AnvilHead
    AnvilHead Posts: 18,344 Member
    nutmegoreo wrote: »
    brichards_ wrote: »
    brichards_ wrote: »
    BillMcKay1 wrote: »
    BillMcKay1 wrote: »
    brichards_ wrote: »
    ccrdragon wrote: »
    brichards_ wrote: »
    Dairy is bad. It can cause acne, and does for me. It can also be a big cause of constipation and bloating. It depleats the body of calium and can cause cancer. Plus on an ethical side it's bad. It is high in fat and has cholesterol in it which your body doesn't need or want.

    If it causes acne in your body, it it bad for YOU - that doesn't make it bad for everyone. Same goes for the bloating and constipation... as for the cancer reference, I would love to see a scientific study that links milk consumption to cancer.

    Also, your body needs both fat and cholesterol to survive... there are vitamins that your body cannot process without the presence of fat. And the links from dietary cholesterol to serum cholesterol (i.e. the amount in your blood) have all but been disproved in recent studies.

    Milk is not healthy. It causes diseases, and it does cause acne. You can research and see for yourself. The dairy industry pays a lot of money for advertisement and to cover the fact that they are unhealthy. I would parallel it to when doctors used to recommend smoking. The body does not need any extra cholesterol because it makes its own. I didn't say don't eat any fat, just eat lower fat, and less saturated and/or unnatural fat. Dairy, especially cheese contains more saturated fat than if think anyone would like to consume if they were being health conscious. Milk irritates your system, causing bloating and constipation due to the fact that humans aren't meant to consume a cows breast milk, they shouldn't still be breast feeding as teens and adults. Their bodies don't enjoy eating strange hormones and pus cells.

    Dairy does literally none of those things to me. Thank you northern european lactose tolerating genes. If you don't wish to consume dairy for your own principles, fine to each their own. Spreading false alarmist info is not cool.

    What if you're not Northern European though?

    Still doesn't make dairy bad. Just means if you are personally lactose intolerant, probably not the best for you. I can't eat Kimchi without severe repercussions, does that make Kimchi a horrible food that even people who can tolerate should stop eating? I also break out from Mangoes. Everyone should stop eating mangoes.
    I'm not lactose intolerant though. It's not made up stuff, though it doesn't seem to affect many people, if they stopped consuming dairy, they'd probably see good results.

    I eat vegan for more than a month twice a year. The only results I keep seeing is missing dairy and anxiously waiting to be able to eat it again.
    find dairy replacements. It's because there is a chemical in dairy that makes it literally addictive.

    Ah, if I had a dollar for every person I have seen go through milk withdrawal... I would still have to work full-time.

    This *babysloth* propaganda agenda is getting :confused:

    Like totally. Literally.
  • brichards_
    brichards_ Posts: 113 Member
    RGv2 wrote: »
    brichards_ wrote: »
    brichards_ wrote: »
    BillMcKay1 wrote: »
    BillMcKay1 wrote: »
    brichards_ wrote: »
    ccrdragon wrote: »
    brichards_ wrote: »
    Dairy is bad. It can cause acne, and does for me. It can also be a big cause of constipation and bloating. It depleats the body of calium and can cause cancer. Plus on an ethical side it's bad. It is high in fat and has cholesterol in it which your body doesn't need or want.

    If it causes acne in your body, it it bad for YOU - that doesn't make it bad for everyone. Same goes for the bloating and constipation... as for the cancer reference, I would love to see a scientific study that links milk consumption to cancer.

    Also, your body needs both fat and cholesterol to survive... there are vitamins that your body cannot process without the presence of fat. And the links from dietary cholesterol to serum cholesterol (i.e. the amount in your blood) have all but been disproved in recent studies.

    Milk is not healthy. It causes diseases, and it does cause acne. You can research and see for yourself. The dairy industry pays a lot of money for advertisement and to cover the fact that they are unhealthy. I would parallel it to when doctors used to recommend smoking. The body does not need any extra cholesterol because it makes its own. I didn't say don't eat any fat, just eat lower fat, and less saturated and/or unnatural fat. Dairy, especially cheese contains more saturated fat than if think anyone would like to consume if they were being health conscious. Milk irritates your system, causing bloating and constipation due to the fact that humans aren't meant to consume a cows breast milk, they shouldn't still be breast feeding as teens and adults. Their bodies don't enjoy eating strange hormones and pus cells.

    Dairy does literally none of those things to me. Thank you northern european lactose tolerating genes. If you don't wish to consume dairy for your own principles, fine to each their own. Spreading false alarmist info is not cool.

    What if you're not Northern European though?

    Still doesn't make dairy bad. Just means if you are personally lactose intolerant, probably not the best for you. I can't eat Kimchi without severe repercussions, does that make Kimchi a horrible food that even people who can tolerate should stop eating? I also break out from Mangoes. Everyone should stop eating mangoes.
    I'm not lactose intolerant though. It's not made up stuff, though it doesn't seem to affect many people, if they stopped consuming dairy, they'd probably see good results.

    I eat vegan for more than a month twice a year. The only results I keep seeing is missing dairy and anxiously waiting to be able to eat it again.
    find dairy replacements. It's because there is a chemical in dairy that makes it literally addictive.

    Seriously, where are you getting your research from?
    Google and YouTube and Pinterest

  • amusedmonkey
    amusedmonkey Posts: 10,330 Member
    Doctor Google never ceases to amaze!
  • Alatariel75
    Alatariel75 Posts: 17,956 Member
    brichards_ wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    brichards_ wrote: »
    brichards_ wrote: »
    BillMcKay1 wrote: »
    BillMcKay1 wrote: »
    brichards_ wrote: »
    ccrdragon wrote: »
    brichards_ wrote: »
    Dairy is bad. It can cause acne, and does for me. It can also be a big cause of constipation and bloating. It depleats the body of calium and can cause cancer. Plus on an ethical side it's bad. It is high in fat and has cholesterol in it which your body doesn't need or want.

    If it causes acne in your body, it it bad for YOU - that doesn't make it bad for everyone. Same goes for the bloating and constipation... as for the cancer reference, I would love to see a scientific study that links milk consumption to cancer.

    Also, your body needs both fat and cholesterol to survive... there are vitamins that your body cannot process without the presence of fat. And the links from dietary cholesterol to serum cholesterol (i.e. the amount in your blood) have all but been disproved in recent studies.

    Milk is not healthy. It causes diseases, and it does cause acne. You can research and see for yourself. The dairy industry pays a lot of money for advertisement and to cover the fact that they are unhealthy. I would parallel it to when doctors used to recommend smoking. The body does not need any extra cholesterol because it makes its own. I didn't say don't eat any fat, just eat lower fat, and less saturated and/or unnatural fat. Dairy, especially cheese contains more saturated fat than if think anyone would like to consume if they were being health conscious. Milk irritates your system, causing bloating and constipation due to the fact that humans aren't meant to consume a cows breast milk, they shouldn't still be breast feeding as teens and adults. Their bodies don't enjoy eating strange hormones and pus cells.

    Dairy does literally none of those things to me. Thank you northern european lactose tolerating genes. If you don't wish to consume dairy for your own principles, fine to each their own. Spreading false alarmist info is not cool.

    What if you're not Northern European though?

    Still doesn't make dairy bad. Just means if you are personally lactose intolerant, probably not the best for you. I can't eat Kimchi without severe repercussions, does that make Kimchi a horrible food that even people who can tolerate should stop eating? I also break out from Mangoes. Everyone should stop eating mangoes.
    I'm not lactose intolerant though. It's not made up stuff, though it doesn't seem to affect many people, if they stopped consuming dairy, they'd probably see good results.

    I eat vegan for more than a month twice a year. The only results I keep seeing is missing dairy and anxiously waiting to be able to eat it again.
    find dairy replacements. It's because there is a chemical in dairy that makes it literally addictive.

    Seriously, where are you getting your research from?
    Google and YouTube and Pinterest

    They don't actually count as research. They're propaganda.
  • stevencloser
    stevencloser Posts: 8,911 Member
    Of course.