Cardio while bulking? If any, how much?
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The purpose for doing cardio is to improve ur cardiovascular health- what does that have anything to do with bulking or losing weight?
When did ppl start to associate it with fat loss or keeping lean lol
There are a lot of people who are only interested in aesthetics, there are so many lean people in my gym who are NOT "fit". To me, that's absolutely crazy!
I Agree totally... What's the whole point of looking great if you can't run 5k to get help for a injured friend etc.
As an example; I run a few "Tough Mudders and Spartan races every year and it's always surprising to me how many "fit" looking ppl with their fancy gear on can't even run 3k with out dying...lol0 -
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You 100% can eat a surplus then target and reduce existing body fat levels. You can reduce your bodyfat% while not losing any fat. In fact (sit own for this one dude) you can actually reduce your bodyfat% while gaining bodyfat levels. Its actually simple maths, not deep mind *kitten* science0
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You 100% can eat a surplus then target and reduce existing body fat levels. You can reduce your bodyfat% while not losing any fat. In fact (sit own for this one dude) you can actually reduce your bodyfat% while gaining bodyfat levels. Its actually simple maths, not deep mind *kitten* science
What....?
Do you have a source (Documentation) for that?
As a regular bloke with a Bsc in both Comp. Sci and Actuarial Math ( I work at a bank)..lol I'd be interested looking at the "Maths" for this.1 -
You 100% can eat a surplus then target and reduce existing body fat levels. You can reduce your bodyfat% while not losing any fat. In fact (sit own for this one dude) you can actually reduce your bodyfat% while gaining bodyfat levels. Its actually simple maths, not deep mind *kitten* science
Been following...
Now I am curious about what this is about? Can you please clarify this????0 -
You 100% can eat a surplus then target and reduce existing body fat levels. You can reduce your bodyfat% while not losing any fat. In fact (sit own for this one dude) you can actually reduce your bodyfat% while gaining bodyfat levels. Its actually simple maths, not deep mind *kitten* science
Umm what? How can one lose body fat and gain body fat concurrently... that really doesnt even make sense.2 -
You 100% can eat a surplus then target and reduce existing body fat levels. You can reduce your bodyfat% while not losing any fat. In fact (sit own for this one dude) you can actually reduce your bodyfat% while gaining bodyfat levels. Its actually simple maths, not deep mind *kitten* science
Are you insinuating thisis because of muscle gain will outweigh the fat gain making the percent the smaller?2 -
You 100% can eat a surplus then target and reduce existing body fat levels. You can reduce your bodyfat% while not losing any fat. In fact (sit own for this one dude) you can actually reduce your bodyfat% while gaining bodyfat levels. Its actually simple maths, not deep mind *kitten* science
Umm what? How can one lose body fat and gain body fat concurrently... that really doesnt even make sense.
Where you are getting confused is bodyfat levels vs bodyfat%. They are not the same...
Back to work I'll explain later!0 -
The more you post, the clearer it is that you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about.4
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You 100% can eat a surplus then target and reduce existing body fat levels. You can reduce your bodyfat% while not losing any fat. In fact (sit own for this one dude) you can actually reduce your bodyfat% while gaining bodyfat levels. Its actually simple maths, not deep mind *kitten* science
Umm what? How can one lose body fat and gain body fat concurrently... that really doesnt even make sense.
Where you are getting confused is bodyfat levels vs bodyfat%. They are not the same...
Back to work I'll explain later!
I'm probably missing something here so I'll await your replay. In fairness I am "assuming" that one typically measures "bodyfat" levels using "% - percent" of fat .vs Lean Muscle etc.1 -
The body gets it's energy from several sources. If you can manipulate your cardio to oxidize fat, then you are burning fat while bulking without muscle loss
The best method is probably to do 20 to 30 min moderate or LISS cardio after weightlifting. The body has already dug deep into glycogen stores and is definitely more likely to burn fat. It's a pretty common method.
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Roughly how many calories of glycogen do you think an average person eating over maintenance has stored?
You really aren't making a lot of sense I'm afraid. The weightlifting session will make zero difference to the proportion of fat burned during LISS.
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The body gets it's energy from several sources. If you can manipulate your cardio to oxidize fat, then you are burning fat while bulking without muscle loss
The best method is probably to do 20 to 30 min moderate or LISS cardio after weightlifting. The body has already dug deep into glycogen stores and is definitely more likely to burn fat. It's a pretty common method.
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Roughly how many calories of glycogen do you think an average person eating over maintenance has stored?
You really aren't making a lot of sense I'm afraid. The weightlifting session will make zero difference to the proportion of fat burned during LISS.
And as Sidesteel said, you can't look at substrate utilization in a vacuum. The "fat burning zone" has been proven to be a myth again and again. It's broscience.
Actually, the time the body burns the highest percentage of fat is when at rest. So technically, for the most effective fat burning, one should just sleep all day. Which, of course, completely ignores that fact that you'd also be burning far fewer calories overall - but hey, almost all of them would be from fat!1 -
Anvil_Head wrote: »The body gets it's energy from several sources. If you can manipulate your cardio to oxidize fat, then you are burning fat while bulking without muscle loss
The best method is probably to do 20 to 30 min moderate or LISS cardio after weightlifting. The body has already dug deep into glycogen stores and is definitely more likely to burn fat. It's a pretty common method.
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Roughly how many calories of glycogen do you think an average person eating over maintenance has stored?
You really aren't making a lot of sense I'm afraid. The weightlifting session will make zero difference to the proportion of fat burned during LISS.
And as Sidesteel said, you can't look at substrate utilization in a vacuum. The "fat burning zone" has been proven to be a myth again and again. It's broscience.
Actually, the time the body burns the highest percentage of fat is when at rest. So technically, for the most effective fat burning, one should just sleep all day. Which, of course, completely ignores that fact that you'd also be burning far fewer calories overall - but hey, almost all of them would be from fat!
Yep totally agree - my 50/50 point of carb/fat usage happens at about 130bpm. Doing a weights session beforehand isn't going to change that.0 -
CoreyColwell wrote: »The purpose for doing cardio is to improve ur cardiovascular health- what does that have anything to do with bulking or losing weight?
When did ppl start to associate it with fat loss or keeping lean lol
There are a lot of people who are only interested in aesthetics, there are so many lean people in my gym who are NOT "fit". To me, that's absolutely crazy!
I Agree totally... What's the whole point of looking great if you can't run 5k to get help for a injured friend etc.
As an example; I run a few "Tough Mudders and Spartan races every year and it's always surprising to me how many "fit" looking ppl with their fancy gear on can't even run 3k with out dying...lol
Yes! I'm with you, to me that would be much more satisfying and makes me feel so much healthier and fit that I can smash out a conditioning session! We run metcon sessions every Saturday and it's amazing how many of my "fit" friends have only come to one1 -
You 100% can eat a surplus then target and reduce existing body fat levels. You can reduce your bodyfat% while not losing any fat. In fact (sit own for this one dude) you can actually reduce your bodyfat% while gaining bodyfat levels. Its actually simple maths, not deep mind *kitten* science
I will take you know nothing for $500, Alex2 -
Whoa. What's going on here? lol4
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You 100% can eat a surplus then target and reduce existing body fat levels. You can reduce your bodyfat% while not losing any fat. In fact (sit own for this one dude) you can actually reduce your bodyfat% while gaining bodyfat levels. Its actually simple maths, not deep mind *kitten* science
Umm what? How can one lose body fat and gain body fat concurrently... that really doesnt even make sense.
Where you are getting confused is bodyfat levels vs bodyfat%. They are not the same...
Back to work I'll explain later!
I assume this means body fat percentage vs fat mass?0 -
Can anyone tell me how I turn off notifications for this thread please?
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@travisk8s never came "back to explain later".. Oh well.
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