1g of protein per lb of body weight?
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Would you take advice from a doctor who was overweight or drank. There is a significant difference between someone who is educated in a field who has conducted research for decades vs a golf hack. Those who are educated in golf, also are pretty good because the schooling involved. They may not be on the pro tour, but certainly can get others on the pro tour.7 -
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Well, I guess if we're going to judge based upon physical appearance rather than knowledge, maybe you'd take advice from Mark Rippetoe instead? I doubt he'd be the desired "after" pic for many people:
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Wait. Does this mean I can no longer buy and read Lyle's women's book despite the years of research and science that has gone into it because he's neither a woman nor a woman who has trained to achieve my goal aesthetic? Well *kitten*.
And as for all those elite athlete coaches who never achieved national places themselves but take athletes to the Olympics et al, I suppose they're all just winging it with flukes.
Or I shouldn't see a male doctor for female health issues because clearly hasn't a clue because man.
Honestly, the stupid illogical things people use to try discredit an expert in a field never fails to amaze.12 -
VintageFeline wrote: »Wait. Does this mean I can no longer buy and read Lyle's women's book despite the years of research and science that has gone into it because he's neither a woman nor a woman who has trained to achieve my goal aesthetic? Well *love*.
And as for all those elite athlete coaches who never achieved national places themselves but take athletes to the Olympics et al, I suppose they're all just winging it with flukes.
Or I shouldn't see a male doctor for female health issues because clearly hasn't a clue because man.
Honestly, the stupid illogical things people use to try discredit an expert in a field never fails to amaze.
It sounds even more stupid when you put in this perspective. Nice work!!2 -
VintageFeline wrote: »Wait. Does this mean I can no longer buy and read Lyle's women's book despite the years of research and science that has gone into it because he's neither a woman nor a woman who has trained to achieve my goal aesthetic? Well *kitten*.
And as for all those elite athlete coaches who never achieved national places themselves but take athletes to the Olympics et al, I suppose they're all just winging it with flukes.
Or I shouldn't see a male doctor for female health issues because clearly hasn't a clue because man.
Honestly, the stupid illogical things people use to try discredit an expert in a field never fails to amaze.
Makes you wonder why all those Olympic gold medalists even bothered listening to Béla Károlyi, and how they ever had any success. I mean, he was a dude (and a kind of chubby dude at that) who was never a gymnast himself. Nor was he a female. What the hell could he possibly know about gymnastics, right? Yet, his coaching yielded nine Olympic champions, fifteen world champions, sixteen European medalists and six U.S. national champions. Probably just pure coincidence, right?
Oh, and just for the record - Lyle is currently coaching a female powerlifter who set four World Records in her last meet (squat, DL, bench and combined overall). So there's that.1 -
Would you take advice from a doctor who was overweight or drank.
Not for health advice. If he was a great surgeon then yes about surgery.
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Well, I guess if we're going to judge based upon physical appearance rather than knowledge, maybe you'd take advice from Mark Rippetoe instead? I doubt he'd be the desired "after" pic for many people:
He's a fat slob whose own lifting totals are not impressive.
I would not take his overblown, overcomplicated advices.
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No, but interesting that you'd rather have advice from the player than the coach. Having natural talent does not mean you can pass it on, often it means you don't understand how difficult something is for others. A person that can easily perform a perfect squat without having to make adjustments because they have the ideal proportions isn't necessarily going to be much help for someone that has a long thighbone and short ground to knee dimensions.
Each to their own, but I'd rather have the guy that's studied, worked with a lot of different students and knows how to see the issues and help make the right adjustments than the one that has only ever focused on themselves.8 -
There's always a guru available if you need one.
Every person is at a different stage of their guru-following.
Just a few of the popular gurus:
Dr. Oz the infomercial-man
Dr. Phil
Rippetoe i.e. "Mr. How-to-make-squatting-as-complicated-as-possible"
Lyle Pencil Neck
Tracy Anderson
TV evangelists (insert name)
Joe "Master Blaster" Weider (RIP)
(Insert your favorite)
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I'm a fan of Tiger's but I don't think he'd be a good teacher because I think what he does (or at least did) came from a natural talent that he cannot explain nor could anyone replicate even if he could.
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Okay thanks for the help my target is is to bulk and build muscle and as I weigh 128lb would 150g of protein be okay or would that be too much? Also what is lean body mass? I’m currently eating in a surplus and I want to bulk and put on weight as well as muscle.
For building muscle in a surplus, carbs are king... protein is more important in a deficit than a surplus. You would be fine with 150 grams but it is a little overkill. If you don't know your BF% you could set protein as a minimum equal to 0.8 grams per lb of goal weight. So if your goal is 150 lbs, aim for 120 grams.
so I should take my protein intake down to 120grams your suggesting, instead of 150grams ? and then replace the remaining calories with carbs ?
Iv'e never heard this before but I'm willing to give it a go.1 -
Eat a balanced diet with sufficient total calories to gain.
Micro-managing is not necessary.2 -
Okay thanks for the help my target is is to bulk and build muscle and as I weigh 128lb would 150g of protein be okay or would that be too much? Also what is lean body mass? I’m currently eating in a surplus and I want to bulk and put on weight as well as muscle.
For building muscle in a surplus, carbs are king... protein is more important in a deficit than a surplus. You would be fine with 150 grams but it is a little overkill. If you don't know your BF% you could set protein as a minimum equal to 0.8 grams per lb of goal weight. So if your goal is 150 lbs, aim for 120 grams.
so I should take my protein intake down to 120grams your suggesting, instead of 150grams ? and then replace the remaining calories with carbs ?
Iv'e never heard this before but I'm willing to give it a go.
The higher protein won't hurt you, just won't add any additional benefit. If you need to supplement or have trouble getting to 150 then yes, you should lower it. If your regular diet allows you to get to 150 without any trouble, then you may as well keep it there.0 -
Just re thinking my intakes after reading what everyone has said and do you think 120g of protein a day will still be enough to bulk and put on muscle? I’m currently eating in a surplus eating, 3,170 calories. And at the moment I have been eating 160g of protein, 70g of fat and 475g of carbs. I think my protein intake may be a little high and would I benefit more from eating 120g of protein and then eating more carbs? It’s just because this app breaks down your macros using % at the moment I’m eating at 20% protein which works out at 160g of protein and when I change it to 15% it goes down to 120g so I’m kinda left between having to pick one of those options I think. Thanks for all the good input so far everyone!
You are putting way too much emphasis on all this stuff. It's not going to make a difference really.
Eat a balanced diet and get your daily calorie goal in every day. If you do this everything will fall in place.
Are you gaining weight? You should be gaining a lb. or so a week if you are eating 500 cals over your caloric breakeven (be sure to add back activity calories).
If you are not gaining weight then your calorie amount is off.
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I'm a fan of Tiger's but I don't think he'd be a good teacher because I think what he does (or at least did) came from a natural talent that he cannot explain nor could anyone replicate even if he could.
Well that and the fact that Hank Haney was Tiger's teacher during the best years of his career and has taught many other top golfers. I'm opting for Haney.0 -
I'm a fan of Tiger's but I don't think he'd be a good teacher because I think what he does (or at least did) came from a natural talent that he cannot explain nor could anyone replicate even if he could.
Well that and the fact that Hank Haney was Tiger's teacher during the best years of his career and has taught many other top golfers. I'm opting for Haney.
I think Tiger's best years were when Butch Harmon was his coach. Harmon along with Tiger's father were his best coaches.
Harmon was able to keep Woods from constantly tinkering with his swing and play naturally. Unfortunately Tiger is a habitual swing tinkerer and did not stay with Harmon. He was already the best ball striker on Tour but was not satisfied and ended up ruining his swing, resulting in losing his ability to drive the ball accurately.
Haney came along after Woods had already had physical injuries and helped him jury-rig his swing to once again win. He did win again but was not the truly scary awesome player he was with Harmon.
http://www.golfchannel.com/article/golf-central-blog/numbers-woods-swing-coaches/0
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