"Common Sense Keto"...cult
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Seriously though...Is anyone else in the Common Sense Keto group on Facebook? I swear its a cult. When you join, one of the statements you have to agree with is having an opinion is okay so long as you don't state it as fact. But actually, you're not allowed an opinion. One of their admins will jump down your throat and say its their way or the highway. They say not to post studies on anything, but they post their own "Jack approved" studies listed only on their website. I've also found the creator really is just trying to scam people, if you check out his "nutritional coaching" site...
My posts have been deleted for a number of reasons
1) Suggesting Mississippi roast (ranch packets are not allowed in CSK)
2) Talking about sugar free chewing gum
3) Telling an admin she shouldn't be so rude to people. She deleted my comments, the comments of the girl she was being rude to, and only her own rude comments (left her other comments) to tweak the conversation and cover her own butt
4) Suggesting stevia to someone
The list could go on and they're becoming the laughing stock of keto groups on Facebook.
Anyway yeah just a rant. If you enjoy things like stevia, cucumbers, and eating more than just butter for every meal, avoid them like the plague because they are a cancer in the keto society and probably one of the reasons why people get scared and quit.
My posts have been deleted for a number of reasons
1) Suggesting Mississippi roast (ranch packets are not allowed in CSK)
2) Talking about sugar free chewing gum
3) Telling an admin she shouldn't be so rude to people. She deleted my comments, the comments of the girl she was being rude to, and only her own rude comments (left her other comments) to tweak the conversation and cover her own butt
4) Suggesting stevia to someone
The list could go on and they're becoming the laughing stock of keto groups on Facebook.
Anyway yeah just a rant. If you enjoy things like stevia, cucumbers, and eating more than just butter for every meal, avoid them like the plague because they are a cancer in the keto society and probably one of the reasons why people get scared and quit.
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What's the debate?1
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Just think of CSK as a business. Is it your business? No? Leave it alone.9
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JeromeBarry1 wrote: »Just think of CSK as a business. Is it your business? No? Leave it alone.
Nah, id rather think of it as a cult, but ty for your input5 -
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I'll never understand people going gaga over a diet. That's like the equivalent of worshipping the fact your car has 4 wheels. No matter what tires you have, they will still bring us from point A to point B....samething with keto, whether you eat keto or not, if your in a caloric deficit, the weight loss will be the same calorie for calories, but people make it a bigger thing than it is, it's human nature I guess.8
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I'll never understand people going gaga over a diet. That's like the equivalent of worshipping the fact your car has 4 wheels. No matter what tires you have, they will still bring us from point A to point B....samething with keto, whether you eat keto or not, if your in a caloric deficit, the weight loss will be the same calorie for calories, but people make it a bigger thing than it is, it's human nature I guess.
Some people are always looking for that "magic pill" for weight loss that doesn't require all that icky self-discipline and calorie restriction stuff.7 -
Well, the group has 104,774 members, so it must not be that bad. I don't think there's ever been a cult with that many members....so we can probably rule out that it's a cult. Your deleted posts sound like they were more confrontational or provocative than simply voicing an opinion. I don't know what the creator is selling, so you might be on to something there. I'm not a member of that group and I don't do keto.8
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Well, the group has 104,774 members, so it must not be that bad. I don't think there's ever been a cult with that many members....so we can probably rule out that it's a cult. Your deleted posts sound like they were more confrontational or provocative than simply voicing an opinion. I don't know what the creator is selling, so you might be on to something there. I'm not a member of that group and I don't do keto.
Cults don't have membership limits. A cult is (loosely defined) a group people with similar beliefs.7 -
So we belong to the MFP cult?
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Well, the group has 104,774 members, so it must not be that bad. I don't think there's ever been a cult with that many members....so we can probably rule out that it's a cult. Your deleted posts sound like they were more confrontational or provocative than simply voicing an opinion. I don't know what the creator is selling, so you might be on to something there. I'm not a member of that group and I don't do keto.
IIRC, the Unification Church's largest single mass marriage ceremony involved 40,000 or so people, with all those people's marital partners chosen for them by the church, and that wasn't the church's only mass marriage. . . so you might just be wrong about the scope of cults.5 -
Well, the group has 104,774 members, so it must not be that bad. I don't think there's ever been a cult with that many members....so we can probably rule out that it's a cult. Your deleted posts sound like they were more confrontational or provocative than simply voicing an opinion. I don't know what the creator is selling, so you might be on to something there. I'm not a member of that group and I don't do keto.
IIRC, the Unification Church's largest single mass marriage ceremony involved 40,000 or so people, with all those people's marital partners chosen for them by the church, and that wasn't the church's only mass marriage. . . so you might just be wrong about the scope of cults.
OMG I remember that! Blast from the past!1 -
Read your thread and it seems you just don’t like ketogenic diets that focus on anti-inflammatory foods, which is what CSK does. Nuts (except macadamia, pecans and walnuts), seeds (small amounts of sesame oil is ok), legumes, fruits and vegetables that are actually fruit (seeds inside; exception is avocados) all contain an inflammatory compound called lectin. The CSK diet works toward minimizing dietary lectin as well as maintaining fat intake of 80-90%. Carbs at 20g and moderate protein at every meal.
Many of us on the CSK diet aren’t necessarily seeking weight loss; we are on it because of the therapeutic effects for auto-immune disorders, brain injuries, PTSD, stroke, metabolic syndrome, hyperinsulinemia, Type 2 diabetes with neuropathy, epilepsy, leaky gut syndrome, IBS, kidney disease, Crones Disease, etc. Article below.
In my case, my doctor recommended this specific Keto group. You might disagree with how careful the CSK FB admin moderates the group, but group members following the CSK diet greatly appreciate correct and corrected information. Thousands of people benefit from adhering to the CSK diet. You aren’t one of them and that’s ok. You’ll find your way to what works for you. But, your accusations say far more about you than they do about CSK.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3321471/
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Yeah there's definitely some who take their diet of choice too far. They treat it like a religion rather than just food.
It's very common. It's actually quite sad because misinformation gets spread amongst groups like that and nobody is allowed to counter it. I would look for a different group that fits you better.1 -
Agreed.. it is a cult- and also fell prey to the "CSK NAZI" because a recipe I shared called for erythritol. I called the site owner out on some science as well., because his Nazi wasn't bright enough to respond.
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I'm somehow blocked from the group even though I've never been in it. I'm in plenty of other keto groups, so I must be on the blacklist from having an opinion elsewhere. Lol0
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