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Hmm. Until I get the answers I need really. I work in the NHS as a mental health nurse which means night shifts, long hours, unhealthy food and no sleep. My weight has crept on and while I help everyone else I haven’t helped myself. So don’t shoot me down or try to make me feel worse by your comments. I literally looking for helpful people with helpful advice. Don’t click on the thread?14
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staceyuden wrote: »Hmm. Until I get the answers I need really. I work in the NHS as a mental health nurse which means night shifts, long hours, unhealthy food and no sleep. My weight has crept on and while I help everyone else I haven’t helped myself. So don’t shoot me down or try to make me feel worse by your comments. I literally looking for helpful people with helpful advice. Don’t click on the thread?
Welcome to the internet.9 -
staceyuden wrote: »Hmm. Until I get the answers I need really. I work in the NHS as a mental health nurse which means night shifts, long hours, unhealthy food and no sleep. My weight has crept on and while I help everyone else I haven’t helped myself. So don’t shoot me down or try to make me feel worse by your comments. I literally looking for helpful people with helpful advice. Don’t click on the thread?
Asking the same question different ways won't change the answer.
We're very sorry you didn't like the answer, but
If you stay within your deficit and log accurately. YOU WILL LOSE WEIGHT!!!22 -
staceyuden wrote: »Thanks everyone. I am doing ok but I seem to be going over my sugar and fat allowance but under calories. Is that ok?
Eating those things over their goals, but within your calorie goal, won't hurt weight loss.
If eating those things over their goals means your protein is lots under goal every day, or you aren't eating enough fruits and veggies for micronutrients (vitamins, minerals) and fiber, then increasing those would be a good thing to gradually work on improving for best health. It's not a huge immediate crisis, and it won't hurt weight loss (within calories) but getting enough protein will help you preserve your existing muscles as you lose fat.
For weight loss, it's calories that matter. Nutritionally, for best health, it's good to get enough protein, fat, and veggies/fruits most days.8 -
Take some time to read the stickied Most Helpful Forum posts in each section.
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10260499/i-like-old-posts-and-i-cannot-lie/p1
This is a great collection. If you still have questions - people will be happy to answer them, but starting redundant threads with slight variations on the same basic question is frowned upon as the answers are basically the same.
Calories are what matter for weight loss.
Nutrition is of course important, that goes without saying, right?
Satiety helps you feel satisfied while eating at a deficit.
Enjoyment is important for long term adherence.
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staceyuden wrote: »Hmm. Until I get the answers I need really. I work in the NHS as a mental health nurse which means night shifts, long hours, unhealthy food and no sleep. My weight has crept on and while I help everyone else I haven’t helped myself. So don’t shoot me down or try to make me feel worse by your comments. I literally looking for helpful people with helpful advice. Don’t click on the thread?
Or do you mean the answer you want?20 -
TavistockToad wrote: »staceyuden wrote: »Hmm. Until I get the answers I need really. I work in the NHS as a mental health nurse which means night shifts, long hours, unhealthy food and no sleep. My weight has crept on and while I help everyone else I haven’t helped myself. So don’t shoot me down or try to make me feel worse by your comments. I literally looking for helpful people with helpful advice. Don’t click on the thread?
Or do you mean the answer you want?
Oh look! Another person being cheeky!17 -
staceyuden wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »staceyuden wrote: »Hmm. Until I get the answers I need really. I work in the NHS as a mental health nurse which means night shifts, long hours, unhealthy food and no sleep. My weight has crept on and while I help everyone else I haven’t helped myself. So don’t shoot me down or try to make me feel worse by your comments. I literally looking for helpful people with helpful advice. Don’t click on the thread?
Or do you mean the answer you want?
Oh look! Another person being cheeky!
Reality doesn't change just because you will it to. You have to accept physics and gravity.16 -
staceyuden wrote: »Hmm. Until I get the answers I need really. I work in the NHS as a mental health nurse which means night shifts, long hours, unhealthy food and no sleep. My weight has crept on and while I help everyone else I haven’t helped myself. So don’t shoot me down or try to make me feel worse by your comments. I literally looking for helpful people with helpful advice. Don’t click on the thread?
A calorie is a unit of energy. You need XXXX amount of energy to maintain the status quo...your body requires a ton of energy to just keep you alive and everything functioning properly. You "burn" more energy going about your day to day and then more with exercise. If you consume more energy than your body requires on a consistent basis, that energy is stored for later use as body fat...body fat is just stored energy.
When you consume less energy than your body requires, that deficiency has to be reconciled so you burn body fat to make up the difference...it's basically your backup generator.
Eating certain foods and cutting back on others can make it easier to maintain a consistent energy deficit required to lose body fat. Certain foods, fat, etc don't make you fat...excess calories make you fat. The reason various diet plans have you cut out this or that or stop eating at X time of day, etc is because they're not calorie counting and if you're not calorie counting, chances are you're going to have to adhere to some rules to get you in a calorie deficit.
You lose weight (fat) when you are consuming less energy than you are expending. It's really that simple...but yeah, I know...it can't possibly be...but it is.10 -
staceyuden wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »staceyuden wrote: »Hmm. Until I get the answers I need really. I work in the NHS as a mental health nurse which means night shifts, long hours, unhealthy food and no sleep. My weight has crept on and while I help everyone else I haven’t helped myself. So don’t shoot me down or try to make me feel worse by your comments. I literally looking for helpful people with helpful advice. Don’t click on the thread?
Or do you mean the answer you want?
Oh look! Another person being cheeky!
You've gotten really great answers so far. Do you still have questions?
Weight loss is simple - consume fewer calories than you burn.
That doesn't mean it is easy - putting it into practice and sticking with it is far more challenging. Lots of different things can impact our ability to start and stick with a healthy, sustainable, nutritious plan that we enjoy and that yields results.
Companies like Slimming World, and really a lot of different people/programs that want to profit off of weight loss try to convince the public that everything is hard EXCEPT their solution. They want you to not have to think about the fundamental principle behind weight loss, which is CICO, because if people realized how simple it is, there's really nothing to profit off of. So they convince you that things are off limits, that you have to eat a certain way, that you should blame certain foods for making your fat in the first place - when in actuality, what makes us fat is just too many calories and those can come from any source. And truth be told, for companies like Slimming World, it's actually better for long term business for them if people do find things hard, and keep coming back. My theory is that's why they don't teach you how to calculate calories, how to figure out the macros/nutrition for yourself - they want to make it so that you are blind to the "why" of weight loss and just have to subscribe to their plan in order to succeed.
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Thank you for your comments. Iv read through and most are very helpful!! I’ll be sure to re read through if I get stuck!2
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estherdragonbat wrote: »staceyuden wrote: »So why do people say ‘don’t cook with oil or use butter as they are fatty’ ? Shouldn’t I be staying away from fatty foods even in my cal deflict?
Your body needs a certain amount of fat to be healthy. http://www.eufic.org/en/whats-in-food/article/facts-on-fats-dietary-fats-and-health.
Now each gram of fat you consume contains 9 calories, as opposed to 4 calories for each gram of protein or carbohydrate, so making sure that you don't go overboard on your fats, to the point where they either squeeze out your other foods or put you in a calorie surplus is important.
There are plenty of people here who have lost on high-fat, low-carb diets. This is generally because by reducing their carb intake, they make room for more fat. If you find that fat makes you feel full, that could be an option you'd want to explore. Me personally, I find that when I increase my protein and let the rest 'fall where it falls', I end up with more carbs and less fat and feel fine with it. Satiety varies person to person.
I love how one can always count on this response whenever someone asks whether it's okay to slather their food in butter.
I don't know where you live, but the SAD has no problem meeting the body's fat needs (oh, and then some, believe me), all without adding additional sources.
There are more individuals suffering from being overweight, than there are suffering from "fat deprivation."38 -
LiminalAscendance wrote: »estherdragonbat wrote: »staceyuden wrote: »So why do people say ‘don’t cook with oil or use butter as they are fatty’ ? Shouldn’t I be staying away from fatty foods even in my cal deflict?
Your body needs a certain amount of fat to be healthy. http://www.eufic.org/en/whats-in-food/article/facts-on-fats-dietary-fats-and-health.
Now each gram of fat you consume contains 9 calories, as opposed to 4 calories for each gram of protein or carbohydrate, so making sure that you don't go overboard on your fats, to the point where they either squeeze out your other foods or put you in a calorie surplus is important.
There are plenty of people here who have lost on high-fat, low-carb diets. This is generally because by reducing their carb intake, they make room for more fat. If you find that fat makes you feel full, that could be an option you'd want to explore. Me personally, I find that when I increase my protein and let the rest 'fall where it falls', I end up with more carbs and less fat and feel fine with it. Satiety varies person to person.
I love how one can always count on this response whenever someone asks whether it's okay to slather their food in butter.
I don't know where you live, but the SAD has no problem meeting the body's fat needs (oh, and then some, believe me), all without adding additional sources.
There are more individuals suffering from being overweight, than there are suffering from "fat deprivation."
I didn't see anyone in this thread asking if it was ok to slather their food in butter.28 -
LiminalAscendance wrote: »estherdragonbat wrote: »staceyuden wrote: »So why do people say ‘don’t cook with oil or use butter as they are fatty’ ? Shouldn’t I be staying away from fatty foods even in my cal deflict?
Your body needs a certain amount of fat to be healthy. http://www.eufic.org/en/whats-in-food/article/facts-on-fats-dietary-fats-and-health.
Now each gram of fat you consume contains 9 calories, as opposed to 4 calories for each gram of protein or carbohydrate, so making sure that you don't go overboard on your fats, to the point where they either squeeze out your other foods or put you in a calorie surplus is important.
There are plenty of people here who have lost on high-fat, low-carb diets. This is generally because by reducing their carb intake, they make room for more fat. If you find that fat makes you feel full, that could be an option you'd want to explore. Me personally, I find that when I increase my protein and let the rest 'fall where it falls', I end up with more carbs and less fat and feel fine with it. Satiety varies person to person.
I love how one can always count on this response whenever someone asks whether it's okay to slather their food in butter.
I don't know where you live, but the SAD has no problem meeting the body's fat needs (oh, and then some, believe me), all without adding additional sources.
There are more individuals suffering from being overweight, than there are suffering from "fat deprivation."
Nobody asked "It is okay to slather my food in butter?" The question was "Shouldn't I be staying away from fatty foods?"
And the answer is no. Assuming that one is paying attention to overall calories consumed, there is no reason to stay away from fatty foods. In fact, if someone makes it their goal to avoid foods with fat, they may swing too far and wind up not getting enough fat, the exact concern that @estherdragonbat was addressing. Given that she specifically called out "not going overboard," I'm not sure why you're reading this as encouragement to add additional sources of fat to the diet and consume too much fat overall.
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LiminalAscendance wrote: »estherdragonbat wrote: »staceyuden wrote: »So why do people say ‘don’t cook with oil or use butter as they are fatty’ ? Shouldn’t I be staying away from fatty foods even in my cal deflict?
Your body needs a certain amount of fat to be healthy. http://www.eufic.org/en/whats-in-food/article/facts-on-fats-dietary-fats-and-health.
Now each gram of fat you consume contains 9 calories, as opposed to 4 calories for each gram of protein or carbohydrate, so making sure that you don't go overboard on your fats, to the point where they either squeeze out your other foods or put you in a calorie surplus is important.
There are plenty of people here who have lost on high-fat, low-carb diets. This is generally because by reducing their carb intake, they make room for more fat. If you find that fat makes you feel full, that could be an option you'd want to explore. Me personally, I find that when I increase my protein and let the rest 'fall where it falls', I end up with more carbs and less fat and feel fine with it. Satiety varies person to person.
I love how one can always count on this response whenever someone asks whether it's okay to slather their food in butter.
I don't know where you live, but the SAD has no problem meeting the body's fat needs (oh, and then some, believe me), all without adding additional sources.
There are more individuals suffering from being overweight, than there are suffering from "fat deprivation."
The question from OP didn't say "can I slather my food in butter". The OP clearly has a lot of misconceptions about weight loss and how it works, and the explanation here about not demonizing fats, that a minimum amount of fat is important and helping explain why there may be a reason to monitor fat intake if trying to lose weight simply because they are more calorie dense than other macros - is hardly a call to adopt the SAD. Why would you even bring the SAD up? Seems the OP is from the UK...15 -
LiminalAscendance wrote: »estherdragonbat wrote: »staceyuden wrote: »So why do people say ‘don’t cook with oil or use butter as they are fatty’ ? Shouldn’t I be staying away from fatty foods even in my cal deflict?
Your body needs a certain amount of fat to be healthy. http://www.eufic.org/en/whats-in-food/article/facts-on-fats-dietary-fats-and-health.
Now each gram of fat you consume contains 9 calories, as opposed to 4 calories for each gram of protein or carbohydrate, so making sure that you don't go overboard on your fats, to the point where they either squeeze out your other foods or put you in a calorie surplus is important.
There are plenty of people here who have lost on high-fat, low-carb diets. This is generally because by reducing their carb intake, they make room for more fat. If you find that fat makes you feel full, that could be an option you'd want to explore. Me personally, I find that when I increase my protein and let the rest 'fall where it falls', I end up with more carbs and less fat and feel fine with it. Satiety varies person to person.
I love how one can always count on this response whenever someone asks whether it's okay to slather their food in butter.
I don't know where you live, but the SAD has no problem meeting the body's fat needs (oh, and then some, believe me), all without adding additional sources.
There are more individuals suffering from being overweight, than there are suffering from "fat deprivation."
Nobody asked about slathering their food in butter...can you read?
And often times, people cut fat so low that they have difficulty meeting bird like calorie targets of 1200 measly calories.15 -
Dieting requires common sense. Who would stubbornly keep eating foods that leave little room for anything else and keep them feeling hungry? Who would be happy eating nothing but one type of meal every day, day in day out? Who wouldn't want to make a change that can easily reduce calorie intake without affecting the taste of food too much? I mean there is a 120 calorie difference between using 2 or using 1 tbsps of oil to stir fry, but the taste difference would be minimal to most people and not worth the extra 120 calories (unless it is, to some people).
There is the theoretical possible (living on one McDonald's meal and a piece of cake) and there is the practically achievable (eating higher calorie foods when you have the calories for them and when they're worth it).
Some people are active enough to afford a McDonald's meal every day and have room for other satisfying foods. Some people are satisfied by McDonald's and don't need more than one meal a day to feel happy (such a monotonous diet would be nutritionally questionable, but yeah, they would still lose weight).
Some people also care about nutrition. Having a monotonous diet of one kind of meal with little nutritional variety wouldn't be the best choice for them. People who are losing weight for health are especially interested in nutrition as well, so eating nothing but McDonald's and cake would not be appealing to them because it does not help achieve their goals, even if they find it filling.
Why do you want to control your food intake? What are your goals? What are your priorities? By answering these questions you will be able to build yourself a diet that you're happy with and that can help you achieve your goals.11 -
I didn’t mean to cause a war about butter11
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staceyuden wrote: »I didn’t mean to cause a war about butter
Noone ever does
these sorts of threads often end up with some sort of strange strawman argument that has nothing to do with the original post. 19 -
tinkerbellang83 wrote: »staceyuden wrote: »I didn’t mean to cause a war about butter
Noone ever does these sorts of threads often end up with some sort of strange strawman argument that has nothing to do with the original post.
Some people thought butter was worth fighting over.
http://theplate.nationalgeographic.com/2014/08/13/the-butter-wars-when-margarine-was-pink/4
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