Hi , i was looking for some honest opinions on weight loss surgeries such as gastric bypass and sleeves etc. While it's great people are bettering their health do you feel the person who makes hard lifestyle changes and loses the weight on their own works harder ? Is it wrong to feel that way? . I guess to me when you decide to change your lifestyle and really grind for what you want health wise it seems slot harder vs losing weight with surgical help, maybe I'm wrong but I'd like some opinions, like I said it's still grwat when anyone betters their lifestyle
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I work harder when I wash the dishes by hand than when I use the dishwasher, but I have no moral qualms about using the dishwasher. I work harder when I do my taxes by hand than when I use tax prep software, but I don't feel bad about taking advantage of the software.
Let's say it is easier to lose weight with surgery. Does that tell us anything meaningful? I'm not sure that it does.
Saying someone who has had WLS doesn't have to put in the work is a bit insulting (and I haven't had WLS). It's a tool, one that comes with its own set of challenges and pitfalls. Also a highly personal choice to make, and not for me to judge.
I think it's a very personal choice. My opinion is that the person needs to do the right thing for them.
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One lost weight but then gained it back
One didn't lose a thing.
I dont think its a miracle cure. You still have to work for it.
That being said, weight loss surgery is significantly more risky and expensive than more conventional means of weight loss. It's hardly the easy way out -- if anything I feel like losing weight the conventional low-n-slow method is pretty darn easy, way easier than recovering from surgery. And if surgery actually was easier, then I'd recommend more people to do it, because the point isn't to prove something about yourself, it's to lose weight and be healthier.
I think I know what you mean...they got there the same way we all did and are just taking an easier way out than others who choose no surgery
I have a friend who chose surgery and she was the first to say...it was laziness and overdoing of her crack (carb) and now after the surgery...she still says she is dealing w the same thing - her laziness and overdoing it w her carbs. so.
Personally I would be willing to endure a lot of dieting and exercise before I would resort to suffering through surgery, especially after seeing how rough it was, but that's me. I don't understand the mindset of wanting the surgery, but I understand enough to know that different people are different. It's none of my business whether other people are lazy or work hard to lose weight. I just hope that they do whatever leads to the best outcome for them.
My mother had gastric bypass 15 years ago before it was more of a laparoscopic procedure, so she has a scar down the front of her stomach. I remember vividly the times where she would be out with us and almost pass out because she needed to eat something, and times where she was so sick because she ate something that, all of sudden, did not agree with her stomach (known as dumping syndrome). It was several years before she knew how her body would react to certain foods, and she's been able to maintain most of her weight loss by keeping an eye on what she eats (I believe her lowest was in the 120s, but that was actually too low for her, and she's more comfortable in the low 140 range).
I have a friend who went through gastric sleeve, and he has not been so successful. He lost a lot of weight and looked really great when he got to his goal, but he went back to poor eating habits and has gained most of what he lost. It's not an issue with the type of surgery, but the fact that my friend did not adhere to a diet that would keep his weight in check. In his own words, "I like great food and I don't want to deprive myself".
I am not eligible for WLS (5'2, 90lbs overweight, no weight related health issues), but if I met the requirements I would definitely pursue it. Not because it's an easy way out but because it would be a tool to help curb the issue I have with eating (I'm a volume eater and enjoy larger meals, so making it harder for me to eat larger meals would be ideal). It's a tool that is great for some, and not helpful for others. It's not going to make your cravings go away, so an emotional eater may have a harder time unless they change their relationship with food. Same with a grazer who likes to eat a lot of smaller meals.
Weight management is an output of behavior. Behavior is not altered by surgical intervention alone. If you do not address the underlying behavior you cannot hope to change the output. As this is an undeniable truth can you tell anyone that surgical intervention is necessary? I could see in those extreme cases where weight itself carries an unacceptable risk of death or serious injury, but in other cases...the risk as I see it is certainly not worth any potential reward.
I was talking with someone who had the surgery followed by life threatening and permanently damaging complications. She had the surgery following a health scare and was genuinely scared for her life.
I hold these things to be self-evident. Pain is the precursor to change.
No one wants to be treated like an option B. We all want to be a stronger version of ourselves. Never run back to what broke you. For me, that would be dieting. A perpetual diet and eating it all back will break you. Never let an old flame burn you twice. That goes for relationships with people and diets.
Whatever you do treat everyone with dignity. We have all suffered the slings and arrows of bullies because of something. Dignity is everything. It's classy. Afford that to everyone who's here fighting for their health or trying to pick up the pieces of their life. Dieting sux. Anyone tries to knock you back out of the saddle while you're tooling along there's plenty of others to help you get back up on your feet.
Anyone calls you names while you're on your way, let them eat your dust. You will not be deterred.
I know of a few people who were going to do WLS but when they started the diet they would need to follow afterwards, they had success without the surgery. I think some people don't understand how to lose weight or what weight loss tools and diets are out there. With help, they may be able to avoid invasive surgery.
That said, I only know two people that have had WLS and both of them re-gained the weight - so, it's not a miracle cure and there still needs to be the same level of discipline to maintain results as those that lose weight without surgery.
I thought I read that less than 5% keep the weight off...seems like a failing procedure to me.
Statistics are terrible for sustaining any weight loss long term, including that accomplished without WLS.
while that may be true...when you are going under the knife at phenomenal expense and becoming a high pay out for the insurance company ...you would want the COSTLY PROCEDURE to be viable and it does not sound like it actually is.