"Extended" Breastfeeding

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  • lisapr123
    lisapr123 Posts: 863 Member
    The whole thing is, quite frankly, nobody's business but your own! My cousin works is a senior research manager for the AAP and she talked to me about it (she gave me a six month goal, which was also my goal based on our lifestyle) and because of her work I found it to be a valid discussion. But too many people seem to give a damn about it!

    I'm struggling with bf'ing at only 3 months. I'm not even sure I'll make it to six months. It went well until she started sleeping thru the night, then it seemed my supply dropped dramatically. We were out at a family party (my husbands side) this weekend and I must've been questioned by 15 people about our feeding habits.

    Do what you want and F-*k the rest of them and their opinions! As for your MIL trying to give your baby junk food, I'd take a serious stand on that one. Ours is too little for that to be an issue yet, but we're already battling over the TV (people seem to think it's crazy that I don't want her watching it. If the news is on I turn her away from it. Otherwise, it's not on.) Our kid, our rules. I've made it very clear that if people can't keep their mouth shut re: our parenting style they need not come around.

    As veganbettie said: Your boobs, your business.
  • veganbettie
    veganbettie Posts: 701 Member
    sorry to hear you're struggling with supply lisapr!! Have you tried Fenugreek? I've always had an awesome supply but I really contribute that to my LO being permentaly attached to my breast, more milk out, more milk in.

    Breastfeeding is the HARDEST thing i've done...It gets easy, but there are certainly struggles that no one really tells you when you have a baby.

    No matter the length of time YOU decide to breast feed, you're doing a great service for your child and for your own health, you should be super proud of yourself and your body.
  • lisapr123
    lisapr123 Posts: 863 Member
    sorry to hear you're struggling with supply lisapr!! Have you tried Fenugreek? I've always had an awesome supply but I really contribute that to my LO being permentaly attached to my breast, more milk out, more milk in.

    Breastfeeding is the HARDEST thing i've done...It gets easy, but there are certainly struggles that no one really tells you when you have a baby.

    No matter the length of time YOU decide to breast feed, you're doing a great service for your child and for your own health, you should be super proud of yourself and your body.


    Thank you. I'm still trying, but it's been tough. If let-down doesn't occur within the first suck or two she'd scream and hit me. So they told me to prime with a pump. Well then I got lazy and figured I might as well just pump. So yeah, that went downhill fast. She still nurses about once a day--which, honestly, neither one of us seems to enjoy--but the rest is pumping and I know it's just not the same. I'm taking 3600+ mg of Fennugreek, plus several servings a day of Mothers Milk tea, but still need to supplement with formula. I know it's primarily because I'm pumping as opposed to nursing.

    Add in the fact that she started sleeping thru the night at about a month old and it was a recipe for disaster.

    Oh, and I was an IVF patient and we discovered I had ridiculously high levels of prolactin which we needed to suppress during part of the IVF process. I'm wondering if that worked a little too well...

    But ultimately, we got out sweet little girl after years of challenges and struggles. Thank you for the support and suggestions. She's thriving on the combo so I intend to keep it up as long as possible, with the attitude that every little bit of breastmilk she gets is worth the effort! If we're lucky enough to have another, I fully intend to not "give in" or "get lazy" so soon!
  • Rubyayn
    Rubyayn Posts: 433 Member
    I nursed my daughter until she was three and weaned when I got pregnant. I plan to nurse this guy until he self weans also. I like to quote the WHO recommendations of two years old also and I think it is tons of fun to crack jokes about nursing a high schooler and such. Another favorite of mine is stating my goal of two years and that if you go that far you may as well keep on till their done. Force weaning a toddler sounds like pure torture for the whole family.

    I decided early on to be very confident about my parenting decisions, even if I don't always feel that way. People love when they see a weakness because it is an opportunity for them to get you to change your mind. My father is bad about that. He went on and on about the fact that we cosleep when she was almost three (he didn't even know about the breastfeeding), so I said "isn't it awesome? It also makes night nursing easier". He didn't know what to say. Lol.
  • jls8209
    jls8209 Posts: 450 Member
    I decided early on to be very confident about my parenting decisions, even if I don't always feel that way. People love when they see a weakness because it is an opportunity for them to get you to change your mind. My father is bad about that. He went on and on about the fact that we cosleep when she was almost three (he didn't even know about the breastfeeding), so I said "isn't it awesome? It also makes night nursing easier". He didn't know what to say. Lol.

    100% true!!! My experience watching my MIL over step her boundaries with BIL/SIL's kids is because they show weakness (especially BIL, and it's his mom who over steps). We're fortunate to live far away and don't deal with the stuff they do, but when we're in town MIL knows me/DH are the bosses, and that's that.
  • ChrysalisCove
    ChrysalisCove Posts: 975 Member
    It makes me really sad that so many of you have faced shaming or guilt-tripping over extended BFing... neither my mom nor my MIL were able to BF (my mom was fresh off of chemo & MIL just had no supply) but they both think it is AWESOME that my son still gets breast milk at 13mo! My husband would probably go off on someone if they gave me a hard time - hahaha! I am by no means "in your face" about BFing, but I do happily BF my son wherever we are when he wants to eat... at the park, in stores, at a restaurant, etc. I figure it's a natural thing so I'll treat it naturally & if anyone has a problem w/ it they don't have I look!

    As for feeding chips / pretzels / other crunchy snacks... Meh, it depends on the kid. We did BLW w/ my son from the get-go, he has 7 teeth & he is perfectly capable now of safely eating just about anything. Obviously they shouldn't feed them things you disagree with & should be closely monitored hen eating potential choking hazards, but there is nothing inherently wrong with hard or crispy foods.
  • gretaelisif1
    gretaelisif1 Posts: 11 Member
    edited September 2018
    jls8209 wrote: »
    …I would also give the WHO/2 years bit of info…

    I like this thread. 😁 Most children in it prob. aren’t nursing anymore, but maybe for others… The actual quote is, ‘Exclusive breastfeeding is recommended up to 6 months of age, with continued breastfeeding along with appropriate complementary foods up to two years of age or beyond.’ Yes! ‘Beyond!’ 😊 So nobody can stop you no matter how old they get. 😄 People are weird. They don’t get that you can’t force a child to nurse, that he/she does b/c of biological/psychological/developmental need, & will continue until the need is gone or until forced to stop. And forcing isn’t good b/c it’s a need. (Of course sometimes continuing is impossible, so that’s about all other cases.) Also, I think some people have tried to argue, ‘Those recommendations are only for the 3rd World.’ Uh, it’s not Third-World Health Organization! It’s not just the 3rd World where babies get sick or even die. Everybody needs maximum IQ. And our society is highly emotionally damaged—like we need more attachment disorder? 😒
    jls8209 wrote: »
    She is one of those "this is how I did it, and all my kids survived, so you should be ok with it, too" types.

    🙄 …as if science has never progressed. With that ‘logic’, we’d all still be subject to bloodletting. My grandpa, who was not one of those types, once told me, in an ‘isn’t it funny how things have changed’ sort of way, ‘Back when we had kids,’ in the ’40s & ’50s, ‘there weren’t any car-seats. We just tossed the kids into the back of the car.’ 😅 There’s even a picture of me as a newborn being brought home from the hospital carried in the front seat. But by the time I was 2 or 3, car-seats were available, b/c I remember mine.
    jls8209 wrote: »
    As for MIL issues, we had the exact thing as RBX happen over the holidays. We DO have a genuine fear about Rose eating nuts right now because she had a reaction to something that had the "may contain peanuts or other nuts" warning on the label. We won't know for sure until we see the allergist in a few weeks. DH had several conversations with his parents about this issue before we went to stay with them over the holidays. Sure enough, MIL gave the older grandchildren chocolates with nuts in them and let them run around while eating them, and of course they got food on the floor.

    😒 We live w/ my MiL, but she’s not like this. Very good about safety generally, & always asks if Anna’s allowed to have something. I don’t think she understands everything about allergies, b/c she saw Anna having a violent allergic reaction to rye toast, but some mos. later asked if Anna was allowed to have a piece of rye toast (so good thing she asks!), but food’s so complicated for Anna, I’m confused myself, even though I’m the one who has to try to solve the problems.

    Anna 1st had solid food at 7 mos. but still gagged if it wasn’t a perfectly smooth jarred purée. Then she was allergic w/ FPIES to oat baby cereal. By 12 mos. the dr said, ‘You can give her anything, just make sure it’s in tiny pieces.’ I asked, ‘Even hard stuff, like apples?’ He said yes. So I thought, what if I gave her peeled, minced apple, but she totally gagged on it. She wouldn’t chew anything, not until 20 mos. old, & then it had to be Gerber Lil Bits, or slivers of Muenster cheese, or slivers of soft fruit w/ no skin (loose spheres & cubes tumbled into her throat), or something in a silicone feeder, but was allergic w/ FPIES to pizza (in the feeder). At 2, she could have baby puffs, little squares of toast & waffle, & Gerber ravioli cut in half, but then she was allergic w/ FPIES to rye toast (squares) & (soft bits of) french fries. Later she was able to eat Crunchies & crispy crackers. She still eats only soft & crispy stuff at 2½. Picks out tiny lumps of ground meat from toddler meals & leaves them on her tray, & still won’t or can’t chew all skins of fruits & vegs, or any leaf, like cabbage or spinach, raw or cooked. I’m still trying to figure out how to keep track of all the ingredients I know are OK for her so she can try new ones 1 at a time. (Anyone know? There should be an app for it, but I can’t find 1. Am trying to compile a database at least. Writing them down in a notebook, which I’ve heard of, would be disorganized—I’d have to read through pages searching for 1 ingredient of a new food, then start over for the next, & next… 😒 Don’t think the dr understands. Just says, ‘Just keep testing new foods 1 at a time.’ But that’s not the problem. Still can’t figure out what ingredients it was in the pizza or french fries—from Domino’s & fish-&-chips, so I guess there were additives, or something else in the fryer. Can’t take anything for granted now.) Our 1st baby was nothing like this. Could eat Cream of Wheat from the start, & every food ground in a baby-food mill within a mo. or 2. (I guess this was before allergy warnings.) By 12 or 18 mos. was easily chewing little squares of steak.
    Rubyayn wrote: »
    I decided early on to be very confident about my parenting decisions, even if I don't always feel that way. People love when they see a weakness because it is an opportunity for them to get you to change your mind. My father is bad about that. He went on and on about the fact that we cosleep when she was almost three (he didn't even know about the breastfeeding), so I said "isn't it awesome? It also makes night nursing easier". He didn't know what to say. Lol.

    😄 Neither of mine could have it any other way. Inga had to be held round the clock, & only gradually less. We had a crib & if I laid her down in it, she woke up instantly & cried. Couldn’t even sleep in it w/ the side off, the crib pressed against the bed, & my arm around her. I was getting no sleep, & started to fall asleep holding her & almost dropped her. Told my husband it was unsafe & she had to sleep in the bed, so he was OK w/ it then. We tried putting her in her own bed when she was about 2½ or 3, but she started sleepwalking. Was found downstairs. Then I realized that was why, as soon as she could crawl, she had usu. gotten up at 1 AM & started crawling toward the end of the bed: sleepcrawling! Within a few seconds, I had had to wake up, sit up, & grab her. Otherwise she would have dove head-first off the bed. So after trying her own bed, she had to come back. When her baby sister was born, she had to get kicked out. She has still sleepwalked, but now extremely rarely. Came in the rm at night maybe a mo. ago, but the last time b/f that was prob. yrs ago.

    This time we found one of the bassinets that goes in the bed, with 3 mesh & padded sides. Anna was OK w/ it. Could sleep in the crib usu. only about 2 or 3 hrs into the night. (At least I got a chance to take a shower & get a snack.) When she tried to climb out, she was straddling the highest part over the floor, by the corner of the footboard. So I had to take the side off for a toddler bed. But my husband thinks it needs a rail too b/f it’s safe for her, so I’m waiting for him to get one.

    About confidence, what worked for me, to get people to stop, has been to just stay calm & repeat myself whenever necessary. (Well, I guess that isn’t enough for dealing w/ people handing out choking hazards or allergens.) People who keep causing problems you may have to see less of. If they get very dangerous or extremely obstinate, maybe not at all. Nobody has given us a hard time over nursing, co-sleeping, allergens, or choking hazards. But certain relatives did over other things:
    • homeschooling (‘They won’t get socialized.’ Socialization & socializing are 2 different things—we, the godparents, the clergy, & Taekwondo teachers handle the 1st; the 2nd they can do at Taekwondo class, at church coffee hour, in the neighborhood, etc. And, ‘Inga will rebel.’ But later had to admit, ‘You’re doing such a good job w/ the kids,’ ‘She’s such a sweet girl,’ etc.)
    • what language to study (Offered to buy us a Rosetta Stone as a present, asked what lang. we wanted; we told them Latin since we had already started working on it, b/c we thought it would have the strongest intellectual, & broadest cultural, benefits; they said it wasn’t practical, that we should pick a different one—bought it ourselves.)
    • illnesses (Wanted us to come to a picnic when Inga had had chronic ear infections for mos. & still had a fever. Said sorry we couldn’t b/c of that. Then got persuasive calls from other relatives. Wanted to drop by to visit when I was sick w/ chronic mono. I said I was too sick. Doorbell rang when I was sleeping. Mysterious present on doorstep. Weakened immune sys. caused chorio. Anna was in the NICU w/ a feeding tube & w/ an IV in her head (so wild, had knocked splinted IV out of each hand at a few days old), I, still having mono (but not a bad episode of it at least), was recovering from c-sec. & major scar-tissue excision, & was up every 4 hrs to nurse her, to use a pump, & to clean parts. Not survival or the relief of suffering, but presents seemed to be the most important thing for relatives, except for one who sent a concerned note on the most important thing of all, not to ‘keep her from her grandparents.’)
    • what church to join—who says this? (Political antipathy to certain doctrines. My husband was already a cradle member anyway. Just went back, & took me w/ him. Children already were too, even b/f we or the church—baptizing Anna incorrectly—knew it.)
    • our stove/oven—so ridiculous! (Over the phone: ‘What if there’s a gas leak?’ Other relative sent to our house about perfectly functional appliance. Then we moved to where there was an electric one. Oven element malfunctioned & caught on fire, was professionally repaired, & it still happened again.)

    This list could be at least twice as long w/ even more relatives. These relatives have never met Anna or seen us in the past 4 yrs or so. A few of them may be able to redeem themselves though.
  • SavannahS2016
    SavannahS2016 Posts: 350 Member
    Sad to see soo many people having problems with breastfeeding. I fed my first son till he was 3. i think the only reason he stopped was because I was 12 weeks pregnant and unfortunately had a miscarriage. One night I asked do you want milk and he said no that was then end of our BF journey.
    Now my second a girl still bf at 2 will probably go on longer then 3 as no plans on having another baby and of course if she still wants to.
    I mostly breastfeed whilst shopping. She sits in the trolly and i feed her never had any comments. Hope this helps someone :smile: