Has bmi range changed?
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I’m just not a very good judge of what healthy looks/feels like, looking for a bit of guidance really
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I’m just not a very good judge of what healthy looks/feels like, looking for a bit of guidance really
Which you already have, right?
Am I missing something here?
Have people not mentioned that you shouldn't seek to lose weight, you are already at a fine weight especially given your height, etc, etc?
And pretty much when you continued to insist that you don't like your shape at the low weight you're already at, that just about the only thing you ought to pursue is strength training that will allow you to perhaps sculpt a body closer to your liking (as opposed to trying to lose fat and losing muscle at the same time)?
So what guidance do you seek?
You're already at a healthy weight for your height. There are no bonus points in terms of health benefits that are withing easy reach. If anything the argument strictly from a health perspective would be for a HIGHER fat percentage, not a lesser one (as in BMI above 20 for most women of your height, not below).
You are not improving health markers/outcomes by reducing your fat level. You are pursuing personal athletic and aesthetic goals... the emphasis being on PERSONAL athletic and aesthetic goals, because health-wise... you're already fine where you already are! As mentioned above: thigh gap, low end of normal weight, blah, blah: your perception of how fat you are is a bigger issue for your health than the actual amount of fat you carry ;-)11 -
Erm...damage limitation?...I’m in the habit of losing weight and find it rewarding, if it is healthy then fine, if not...I’m not sure where the line is - I know you need to be focused to achieve goals, but knowing when you are too focused is a bit difficult I guess?1
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20% is low body fat for a lady. Also keep in mind that body fat scales are best used only for trending purposes, they commonly over estimate body fat percentages.2
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EGAD, so we're back to that. I will let other people (many of whom have dealt with ED) chime in perhaps, as they did earlier. The line is that you're ALREADY HEALTHY. Anything you're doing is NOT FOR HEALTH PRIMARILY.
I am pretty sure that people on a fitness forum cannot tell you when your fat levels will become so low that they will impact your health.
For all we all know your current level is too low FOR YOU. You won't know till many years from now when the whatever health problem caused by whatever else materializes.
Almost axiomatically, if something is an obsession it is not healthy. Mental health is part of your total body health.10 -
Erm...damage limitation?...I’m in the habit of losing weight and find it rewarding, if it is healthy then fine, if not...I’m not sure where the line is - I know you need to be focused to achieve goals, but knowing when you are too focused is a bit difficult I guess?
we aren't talking about losing weight though if you're actually doing recomp.
to be honest i think just maintaining your current body weight and composition for a while would be a good idea to help you get out of the losing weight mindset.12 -
Pictures for perspective, I don’t think I’m in any danger of being skin and bones - I think 7lbs less would be ok?
You look very average to me. I’d say recomp and focus on body composition. That will do more for you than focusing on weight. I’m also 5’10” and “underweight” if we’re going by BMI starts at 128lb which is 20lb less than you. You don’t have to worry about being “underweight”. You should just focus on being healthy.
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Also why 7lb ? That seems like an odd number to choose to lose when you’re already at a healthy weight ? Like I said above, weight training will do wonders for you.3
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Erm...damage limitation?...I’m in the habit of losing weight and find it rewarding, if it is healthy then fine, if not...I’m not sure where the line is - I know you need to be focused to achieve goals, but knowing when you are too focused is a bit difficult I guess?
Actually, no, it’s not fine. When you are insisting that you still need to lose weight at the low end of a healthy weight, that’s pretty much the definition of a problem.4 -
Sorry, me again!
Quick question - does recomp rely on having excess body fat to lose?
My scales at telling me I’m 20% (although obviously I’m not expecting high accuracy on that)
The leaner you are the less effective recomp becomes. Not to say it won't work for you, but there comes a point where if you become too low in weight and leanness, it becomes harder to actually make progress and gaining weight might actually benefit you (depending on your goals of course). I don't think you are at that point so recomp will be an excellent choice for you.
20% is fairly athletic and lean for a female, if you are that lean you should start to see muscle definition in most places.. but I wouldn't pay too much attention as scales can be very inaccurate. Mine tells me I am 23-24% most of the time... and I would imagine I am a leaner than that.
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Erm...damage limitation?...I’m in the habit of losing weight and find it rewarding, if it is healthy then fine, if not...I’m not sure where the line is - I know you need to be focused to achieve goals, but knowing when you are too focused is a bit difficult I guess?
This sounds like much more of a mental mindset for you more than anything. You like the reward of seeing the number on the scale drop, but are not quite happy with your aesthetics. Recomping is a great choice for you, but you would find it difficult to not see the scale move down so you are hesitant.
What I would recommend is that you try to pick other goals to focus on OTHER than your weight. That way you still get the same pleasurable reward in your brain. You have still have something to focus on, but it's not your appearance or a number on the scale. Pick some sort of performance goal....as mentioned resistance based would be best to change your body composition, but at this point I'd recommend anything just to get you out of the weight loss mindset. You don't have to do weights. Perhaps it's working up to 100 pushups or 10 pullups or running a 5k or doing a handstand. Just something that is not your weight. Your physique will follow.17 -
mom23mangos wrote: »Erm...damage limitation?...I’m in the habit of losing weight and find it rewarding, if it is healthy then fine, if not...I’m not sure where the line is - I know you need to be focused to achieve goals, but knowing when you are too focused is a bit difficult I guess?
This sounds like much more of a mental mindset for you more than anything. You like the reward of seeing the number on the scale drop, but are not quite happy with your aesthetics. Recomping is a great choice for you, but you would find it difficult to not see the scale move down so you are hesitant.
What I would recommend is that you try to pick other goals to focus on OTHER than your weight. That way you still get the same pleasurable reward in your brain. You have still have something to focus on, but it's not your appearance or a number on the scale. Pick some sort of performance goal....as mentioned resistance based would be best to change your body composition, but at this point I'd recommend anything just to get you out of the weight loss mindset. You don't have to do weights. Perhaps it's working up to 100 pushups or 10 pullups or running a 5k or doing a handstand. Just something that is not your weight. Your physique will follow.
So much your second paragraph.
I hate hate hate my weight right now. It's technically a healthy weight, but I hate it. To keep from going absolutely guano, I'm having/trying (albeit it not always successfully) to focus on other goals while I wait for the medical issues that *caused* this weight to happen. So I focus on my run pace, my swim split times, lifting, etc. There are more goals to have beyond a number on a scale.10 -
We’re all getting wooed for telling OP how it is... she’s not skinny but she’s not fat. She’s healthy and doesn’t need to lose weight... she can recomp but that’s about it. She’s a grown woman and her body type should be something she’s familiar with by now.1
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I’m not wooing anyone 2
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takemetosingapore2019 wrote: »We’re all getting wooed for telling OP how it is... she’s not skinny but she’s not fat. She’s healthy and doesn’t need to lose weight... she can recomp but that’s about it. She’s a grown woman and her body type should be something she’s familiar with by now.
I've noticed I have a wooer or two who follow me and woo me any time I tell someone you don't have to be underweight to be thin, and that being underweight is not a good goal. It amuses me.9 -
mom23mangos wrote: »Erm...damage limitation?...I’m in the habit of losing weight and find it rewarding, if it is healthy then fine, if not...I’m not sure where the line is - I know you need to be focused to achieve goals, but knowing when you are too focused is a bit difficult I guess?
This sounds like much more of a mental mindset for you more than anything. You like the reward of seeing the number on the scale drop, but are not quite happy with your aesthetics. Recomping is a great choice for you, but you would find it difficult to not see the scale move down so you are hesitant.
What I would recommend is that you try to pick other goals to focus on OTHER than your weight. That way you still get the same pleasurable reward in your brain. You have still have something to focus on, but it's not your appearance or a number on the scale. Pick some sort of performance goal....as mentioned resistance based would be best to change your body composition, but at this point I'd recommend anything just to get you out of the weight loss mindset. You don't have to do weights. Perhaps it's working up to 100 pushups or 10 pullups or running a 5k or doing a handstand. Just something that is not your weight. Your physique will follow.
Thank you, that sounds like a really good idea7 -
takemetosingapore2019 wrote: »We’re all getting wooed for telling OP how it is... she’s not skinny but she’s not fat. She’s healthy and doesn’t need to lose weight... she can recomp but that’s about it. She’s a grown woman and her body type should be something she’s familiar with by now.
i would disagree with part of what you have said, i don't feel that OP has a healthy mentality when it comes to her weight.
just ignore the woo's - i have a woo stalker so i expect one on every post :laugh:4 -
TavistockToad wrote: »takemetosingapore2019 wrote: »We’re all getting wooed for telling OP how it is... she’s not skinny but she’s not fat. She’s healthy and doesn’t need to lose weight... she can recomp but that’s about it. She’s a grown woman and her body type should be something she’s familiar with by now.
i would disagree with part of what you have said, i don't feel that OP has a healthy mentality when it comes to her weight.
just ignore the woo's - i have a woo stalker so i expect one on every post :laugh:
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mom23mangos wrote: »Erm...damage limitation?...I’m in the habit of losing weight and find it rewarding, if it is healthy then fine, if not...I’m not sure where the line is - I know you need to be focused to achieve goals, but knowing when you are too focused is a bit difficult I guess?
This sounds like much more of a mental mindset for you more than anything. You like the reward of seeing the number on the scale drop, but are not quite happy with your aesthetics. Recomping is a great choice for you, but you would find it difficult to not see the scale move down so you are hesitant.
What I would recommend is that you try to pick other goals to focus on OTHER than your weight. That way you still get the same pleasurable reward in your brain. You have still have something to focus on, but it's not your appearance or a number on the scale. Pick some sort of performance goal....as mentioned resistance based would be best to change your body composition, but at this point I'd recommend anything just to get you out of the weight loss mindset. You don't have to do weights. Perhaps it's working up to 100 pushups or 10 pullups or running a 5k or doing a handstand. Just something that is not your weight. Your physique will follow.
Another vote for non-weight loss goals. Setting performance goals will be easiest if you get a good trainer who can help you with this.3
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