Anybody on here doing "Optavia"?
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CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »clowemarykay wrote: »I am on the second week of optavia. They had me on 900-1000 calories as a fitness instructor. I did not lose any weight, had a "coach" call me names and insult me. It is very sales driven and it has been a very very very negative experience for me. I will take away the eating high protein small meals more frequently but that is about it. It was very expensive and full of propaganda. You could not post anything on their site on facebook unless you it about losing weight. When i tried to ask why i was not losing, they deleted my post. Terrible program
how were you not losing on 900-1000 calories? thats very low for even most people and should have resulted in weight loss
I would think because she has only been doing it for 1 week ( " I am on my second week..")
Not that I am defending this MLM at all, I think all such scams are rip off nonsense - but not losing after 1 week is not unusual with any plan - fluctuations can mask what is happening in only 1 week of data.
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paperpudding wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »clowemarykay wrote: »I am on the second week of optavia. They had me on 900-1000 calories as a fitness instructor. I did not lose any weight, had a "coach" call me names and insult me. It is very sales driven and it has been a very very very negative experience for me. I will take away the eating high protein small meals more frequently but that is about it. It was very expensive and full of propaganda. You could not post anything on their site on facebook unless you it about losing weight. When i tried to ask why i was not losing, they deleted my post. Terrible program
how were you not losing on 900-1000 calories? thats very low for even most people and should have resulted in weight loss
I would think because she has only been doing it for 1 week ( " I am on my second week..")
Not that I am defending this MLM at all, I think all such scams are rip off nonsense - but not losing after 1 week is not unusual with any plan - fluctuations can mask what is happening in only 1 week of data.
I somehow missed the week part . yeah 1 week means nothing3 -
alixehrhardt wrote: »And anyone that thinks that ALL companies are not created and designed to be "money making schemes" needs to educate themselves. Yes, MLMs are set up to give money to the referrers and personal coaches. Rather than it all going up the chain of command to a massive company profit like most operate. How is that worse or better? I've been with several MLMs over the years and they all had their pros and cons (as did the multiple Fortune 500 companies I worked for throughout my career). Geez, so judgey without merit.
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Yes, I'm judgey. But there's plenty of merit behind my judgement.21 -
Evelyn_Gorfram wrote: »alixehrhardt wrote: »And anyone that thinks that ALL companies are not created and designed to be "money making schemes" needs to educate themselves. Yes, MLMs are set up to give money to the referrers and personal coaches. Rather than it all going up the chain of command to a massive company profit like most operate. How is that worse or better? I've been with several MLMs over the years and they all had their pros and cons (as did the multiple Fortune 500 companies I worked for throughout my career). Geez, so judgey without merit.
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Yes, I'm judgey. But there's plenty of merit behind my judgement.
Yes, my job does profit the people at the top. But here's a key difference: I never have to pay them to work. I'm not paying for "starter packs" or for training. They're happy to take my business as they would any other customer (they're a retailer), but they're also fine if I never ever purchase anything from them. They're happy if I refer someone qualified to the company, but they're also fine if I never refer anyone. Also, they pay me regularly and provide me with benefits. The money they say I'm going to make is given to me regularly and it will be given to me as long as I'm employed by the company.
The differences between MLMs and actual jobs are pretty stark.14 -
malloriegabbert wrote: »AS an OptaVia coach, I love the p[program and loving on my clients. This is far from a "money-Making Scheme," and focuses solely on helping clients in every phase of health.
mmmkay
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alixehrhardt wrote: »I just restarted the OptaVia program two months ago
If it worked so well, you wouldn't be "restarting."
MLMs are created to take advantage of people. Why else would they choose to use the model that results in 99% of their consultants losing money? The fact that *anyone* can join and become a pseudo expert on health and fitness is a huge red flag.10 -
jillybeansalad wrote: »alixehrhardt wrote: »I just restarted the OptaVia program two months ago
If it worked so well, you wouldn't be "restarting."
MLMs are created to take advantage of people. Why else would they choose to use the model that results in 99% of their consultants losing money? The fact that *anyone* can join and become a pseudo expert on health and fitness is a huge red flag.
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Evelyn_Gorfram wrote: »jillybeansalad wrote: »alixehrhardt wrote: »I just restarted the OptaVia program two months ago
If it worked so well, you wouldn't be "restarting."
MLMs are created to take advantage of people. Why else would they choose to use the model that results in 99% of their consultants losing money? The fact that *anyone* can join and become a pseudo expert on health and fitness is a huge red flag.
I think you meant if she didn't mind a feline-ancial cat-astrophe10 -
Evelyn_Gorfram wrote: »jillybeansalad wrote: »alixehrhardt wrote: »I just restarted the OptaVia program two months ago
If it worked so well, you wouldn't be "restarting."
MLMs are created to take advantage of people. Why else would they choose to use the model that results in 99% of their consultants losing money? The fact that *anyone* can join and become a pseudo expert on health and fitness is a huge red flag.
Heck, even Beachbody is cheaper than that - for the mere sum of $39.99, you're a "coach". Just like Optavia, no qualifications or knowledge needed, except for the desire to peddle shakes and annoy all your friends, family members, coworkers, etc. until they block you from all social media and run the other way when they see you coming.
MLM peddlers are "coaches" about the same way a guy in a trench coat who offers to give you a free physical exam in the back of his van with no windows is a "doctor".14 -
happytree923 wrote: »Evelyn_Gorfram wrote: »jillybeansalad wrote: »alixehrhardt wrote: »I just restarted the OptaVia program two months ago
If it worked so well, you wouldn't be "restarting."
MLMs are created to take advantage of people. Why else would they choose to use the model that results in 99% of their consultants losing money? The fact that *anyone* can join and become a pseudo expert on health and fitness is a huge red flag.
I think you meant if she didn't mind a feline-ancial cat-astrophe
That poor cat! She lost her shirt on BeachKitty, and then she took a bath with ShakFlea. She spent fat stacks on MediCat, coughed up way too much for FurBallLife, and finally blew through a slew on MewLaRue.
... That's how she wound up living in the dish drainer.
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Evelyn_Gorfram wrote: »happytree923 wrote: »Evelyn_Gorfram wrote: »jillybeansalad wrote: »alixehrhardt wrote: »I just restarted the OptaVia program two months ago
If it worked so well, you wouldn't be "restarting."
MLMs are created to take advantage of people. Why else would they choose to use the model that results in 99% of their consultants losing money? The fact that *anyone* can join and become a pseudo expert on health and fitness is a huge red flag.
I think you meant if she didn't mind a feline-ancial cat-astrophe
That poor cat! She lost her shirt on BeachKitty, and then she took a bath with ShakFlea. She spent fat stacks on MediCat, coughed up way too much for FurBallLife, and finally blew through a slew on MewLaRue.
... That's how she wound up living in the dish drainer.
FurballLife
Just say no meowtiple level marketing schemes everyone.
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I don’t know about MLM schemes. I know I’ve lost over 100 pounds on Optavia, and I help a few other people do the same. I’m healthy and happy. I’m honest about what I do and don’t know. I know how to do this program and lose weight. I don’t have to scam anyone to do it. I make enough money to offset the cost of the program for myself. If other people higher up make more, I’m okay with that.
I think there are many ways to lose weight. Some are healthier than others. I think you pick the one that works for you, that you can stand doing for a lifetime, then you do it. This is mine13 -
You "help other people to do the same"
How?
By selling them products and " coaching them" ???8 -
denadoobug wrote: »I don’t know about MLM schemes. I know I’ve lost over 100 pounds on Optavia, and I help a few other people do the same. I’m healthy and happy. I’m honest about what I do and don’t know. I know how to do this program and lose weight. I don’t have to scam anyone to do it. I make enough money to offset the cost of the program for myself. If other people higher up make more, I’m okay with that.
I think there are many ways to lose weight. Some are healthier than others. I think you pick the one that works for you, that you can stand doing for a lifetime, then you do it. This is mine
You should know, seeing as how you're actively supporting and promoting one.9 -
JillianSunday wrote: »I started Optavia on September 6 & lost 20lbs in the 1st month, which I couldn't believe. There's a lot of comment s on here about it being MLM & expensive- it is. It's $400 per month, & you eat 5 of their meals (bars & stuff) throughout the day & then have a "Lean & Green" meal - 5-7oz of meat depending on which protein you choose, & 1.5 cups veggies.
😱
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Very interesting thread! I work with someone who does Optavia. He began losing a lot of weight, liked it so much that he is now a coach. He started recruiting me right away. But I'm not that gullible. He is 26 years old and has never dieted before. Losing weight for him was easy the moment he went into a calorie deficit. I'm 52 and have battled my weight since I was 12 years old. I have no doubt that I could shell out $400 a month and I might lose weight quickly, but would it really change the behavior and the complicated issues that I have with food? I don't think so and that is why I have resisted his recruiting. Sure it's tough to see him and a few other people who are who are now on the plan losing weight so quickly. But will they keep it off once they are no longer on Optavia? I don't know, but I do know that I am not willing to eat processed foods, limit my cooking creativitiy, and pay that much money to ensure that I don't gain the weight back.
I understand that a company wants to make money. I give WW my money so that I can have the accountability of a weekly weigh in and learn to develop healthier eating habits. But even WW can't make me change my behavior with food. That has to come from within. I've lost almost 50 lbs over the last two years. It might not be as fast as my friends who are on Optaivia, but I'm learning to undo a lifetime of bad habits and emotional stuggles and figure out how to eat in a way that I can sustain for the rest of my life. I'm OK with that.8 -
Optavia is crap. Set a calorie goal and eat real food.9
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I have been on it for about 6 weeks. Previously started at 186 lbs, lost weight with changing my eating habits (and tracking all with MFP) and running/working out about 50lbs. Then gained some back (about 15 lbs) due to a bunch of things - no need to detail.
Cut long story short, my friend was doing Optavia and lost a lot of weight, I only wanted to drop about 15 lbs. I also want to keep working out. Friend was doing the 5&1 - too little for me, and doesn't recommend working out while on it. However, the 4-2-1 program (look it up), works great for me.
I agree, it is MLM and there is a "cult-like" mentality. Of course, their interest is to get you back as often as possible, so my recommendation is that if you decide to go on Optavia, get on the website first, figure out which program is best for your weight, goals and lifestyle. Then find a "coach" and order. I ordered "a-la-carte" rather than buying their kit. Also - be well-informed, know your goals and that's it. The coaches wanted me to do 5-1 (which is super restrictive), and after a while I was firm and told them, NO.
They have Facebook groups - which are super cult-like. My recommendation is - either avoid them, or be selective what you use them for (mostly support).
Remember: you can eat one of their "fuelings" (bar/shake etc), which are 110 calories, but once you are at your goal weight, or if you cannot afford it, you can eat an Oikos Triple Zero yogurt with the same calories... etc.0 -
Remember: you can eat one of their "fuelings" (bar/shake etc), which are 110 calories, but once you are at your goal weight, or if you cannot afford it, you can eat an Oikos Triple Zero yogurt with the same calories... etc.
or you could just eat whatever is the same calories that you want and can afford in the first place ............4 -
Is this MLM legal in the USA? because pyramid selling isn't.0
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