Debating going Keto
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I’ve just read lots of people having success over it. That’s the only reason I would consider it. I don’t have any medical issues or reasons to try it really.
You definitely get results with it. But once you go back to your regular eating habits you will gain it all back. I would do IIFYM instead (google it). I did keto for a month and was miserable. I really enjoy carbs. My current plan allows me 150g!!! Keto was like 50 or something. I lost 6lbs in a month (I'm small so this is a lot) and gained back 6 plus 2 lol.4 -
I’ve been considering a Keto diet and wonder what other people think. I just don’t know if I can do it for longevity. Any comments would be appreciated.
If that way of eating does not appeal to you, then it's probably not a good choice for you even if other people have success with it. They are successful because it works for them, and would likely be unsuccessful with another approach that does not.
Please do not worry about "longevity" when looking at a way of eating. The tools for managing weight center around controlling your intake, and if you have those tools, you can apply them to many different ways of eating. Very few people eat the same way over the long term, as our diets can change with our circumstances. Focus on what's working now and the tools that are helping you get there. With diets like keto, the tool isn't the type of food or carb count, it's eating foods you like and enjoy and eliminating or limiting foods you don't really care about or which can cause you to overeat. You can do that regardless of what way of eating you choose.2 -
I’ve been considering a Keto diet and wonder what other people think. I just don’t know if I can do it for longevity. Any comments would be appreciated.
Take a look at keto diet meal plans available online and the rules to follow to see if it will work for you. I personally know someone who lost 100+ lbs in under 2 years thanks to the keto diet. For me, it would not work as I could not reduce my carbs consumption by that much. Like others have said (and what I am finally accepting) is that, to lose weight, you need to be at a caloric deficit. Once you accept this simple truth, you can tweak your diet to your liking while still losing weight and not feel like your are going without.6 -
All diets work or don't work based on 1 singular factor - Do they (you) create and maintain a calorie deficit. Period. End of debate.
If a diet helps you create a calorie deficit, then it will work. If it doesn't, then it won't.
If a diet helps you maintain a calorie deficit, and is sustainable over a relatively long period of time, then it's worth doing. If it doesn't/isn't, then it's not.10 -
I’ve just read lots of people having success over it. That’s the only reason I would consider it. I don’t have any medical issues or reasons to try it really.
Is this because you are not feeling successful with your current plan/way of eating?
Remember - you have also read TONS Of stories of people who have successfully lost weight WITHOUT doing KETO we just don't all post the name our methods
If you don't have a medical reason and don't plan to stick to it long term i don't see the point of these fad diets.
This doesn't mean you can't try keto meals and snacks.2 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »shawnberger wrote: »I've been keto for a year. I've lost 129 lbs so far. It's not just about losing weight on keto. You lose the inflammation due to the processed foods. You gain a clear cognitive mind, more energy, overall improvement in the way you feel. I'm strict keto meaning ingredients are the most important thing. I have not missed out or felt deprived of any food.
Also the way of eating is not hard or complicated. I thought that at first too, but quickly learned it's is pretty simple. Bottom line for me I will never go back to a western diet. I will stay keto going forward.
for you it may have done that, for me it caused me inflammation(I have RA), I was lethargic and my mind was awful .my short term memory went to hell and I never had an issue before and dont now. I was on it 2 months and it wasnt keto flu because I did research and made sure to prevent the keto flu before I started. my health was literally going down the drain and I was very close to having hubby take me to the ER because I felt like my body was shutting down. he told me I needed to stop keto and see what happens, I did and things improved again and went back to normal(well what is normal for me) I lost no more weight on keto than any other way of eating.
weight loss in and of itself can cause an improvement in health issues as well. I also eat processed foods and they do not cause me any inflammation at all ,not even my RA
That's so interesting! I have RA and have had significant improvement with my RA. It's amazing how different bodies are.0 -
I’ve just read lots of people having success over it. That’s the only reason I would consider it. I don’t have any medical issues or reasons to try it really.
Here's my opinion - many of those people "having success" aren't really being successful. Now, before I get woo'ed to death let me explain. In my real life, face to face, workplace Keto is all the rage right now. A number of coworkers will do the following:
#1 Enthusiastically begin a Keto diet.
#2 Maintain diet for a couple of weeks and experience a large number drop on the scale. (They often do not understand it is water loss - they just see the scale move.
#3 They proclaim their success loudly and evangelize about the merits of Keto.
#4 Week three they start cheating because they can't sustain the restrictions of the diet.
#5 They gain weight back.
#6 They still proclaim the merits of the diet and just blame themselves for their lack of willpower.
#7 They end up back where they started.
Let me be clear - I have no issue with Keto as a way of eating. My point is to say that in some cases the "success" we hear about is not true success because the individuals do not maintain the weight loss. There are folks here on MFP that understand what they are doing and have genuine success following a Keto way of eating. My concern is that if you are already worried about sustaining this way of eating then Keto may not be for you.
In the end it is always about maintaining a calorie deficit in order to lose weight. That is entirely possible without having to follow a specific way of eating. So if you want an opinion, look at some of the Keto meal plans. Ask yourself if you think you'll be happy eating that way for an extended period of time. Decide how you will maintain a deficit if you don't like Keto as a way of eating.
Best of luck to you.20 -
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hmmm... I think I will choose the calorie deficit diet LOL7
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LOL @ the Keto haters... there sure are lot's of them. Keto has extremely good benefits for some, no so much for others. If you're sensitive processed carbs, like me, then Keto may work. However, I don't eliminate all carbs. I still eat sweet potatoes, sometimes bananas for breakfast... but in general I don't eat a lot of carbs. Nor do I shun them.
For me, any meal plan that eliminates sugar and processed food (especially wheat) is going to be a 1,000x better than what typical people eat everyday.
Also, if you are monitoring your calories and sticking to a daily budget, you'll soon learn to regret eating food high in processed carbs, because they are packed with calories and you'll still be starving afterwards.
It's crazy how many people treat their chosen "Diet Plan" like a religion and immediately go into attack mode if they feel it's being questioned.
Relax people, eat good food, get some exercise and enjoy the life benefits.22 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »shawnberger wrote: »I've been keto for a year. I've lost 129 lbs so far. It's not just about losing weight on keto. You lose the inflammation due to the processed foods. You gain a clear cognitive mind, more energy, overall improvement in the way you feel. I'm strict keto meaning ingredients are the most important thing. I have not missed out or felt deprived of any food.
Also the way of eating is not hard or complicated. I thought that at first too, but quickly learned it's is pretty simple. Bottom line for me I will never go back to a western diet. I will stay keto going forward.
for you it may have done that, for me it caused me inflammation(I have RA), I was lethargic and my mind was awful .my short term memory went to hell and I never had an issue before and dont now. I was on it 2 months and it wasnt keto flu because I did research and made sure to prevent the keto flu before I started. my health was literally going down the drain and I was very close to having hubby take me to the ER because I felt like my body was shutting down. he told me I needed to stop keto and see what happens, I did and things improved again and went back to normal(well what is normal for me) I lost no more weight on keto than any other way of eating.
weight loss in and of itself can cause an improvement in health issues as well. I also eat processed foods and they do not cause me any inflammation at all ,not even my RA
I did keto for six weeks, have a condition similar to RA (psoriatic arthritis), also researched keto flu and took steps to prevent it, and I had the same experience.
Additionally, I wasn't doing keto to lose weight, I was hoping to have some relief from migraines, which even with a very good medication protocol, are chronic and often debilitating. My migraines got worse during my keto trial.
OP, a lot of people who have good results doing keto have those results because eating that way is enjoyable for them and they find the food filling and since it's filling, it makes eating at a calorie deficit easy for them to do.
There is no other way to lose weight than to eat at a calorie deficit. I personally found it a little difficult to feel full eating keto because I need starch and volume to feel full, and those were lacking on keto, but I was in pain and desperate! Satiation is a factor of dieting that's highly variable from one individual to the next.
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Scotty2HotPie wrote: »LOL @ the Keto haters... there sure are lot's of them. Keto has extremely good benefits for some, no so much for others. If you're sensitive processed carbs, like me, then Keto may work. However, I don't eliminate all carbs. I still eat sweet potatoes, sometimes bananas for breakfast... but in general I don't eat a lot of carbs. Nor do I shun them.
For me, any meal plan that eliminates sugar and processed food (especially wheat) is going to be a 1,000x better than what typical people eat everyday.
Also, if you are monitoring your calories and sticking to a daily budget, you'll soon learn to regret eating food high in processed carbs, because they are packed with calories and you'll still be starving afterwards.
It's crazy how many people treat their chosen "Diet Plan" like a religion and immediately go into attack mode if they feel it's being questioned.
Relax people, eat good food, get some exercise and enjoy the life benefits.
The opposite of keto isn't "processed carbs". It's a balanced diet. Keto's a certain macro balance. There are other macro balances.
You can eat processed foods on keto and have a less than stellar diet with its macro mix just as you can on any other.
Equating purity of food quality with a macro mix is a silly argument that doesn't stand up to scrutiny.26 -
I weigh 237 as of this morning, I have been on Keto since Sunday. I feel better.
Background: I did Whole 30 and loved it, lost about 17 pounds and kept it off for a year. Whole 30 is wonderful, and healthy, but it is extremely challenging to do unless you are diligent enough to prepare your meals. The only restaurant I could quickly get a Whole 30 meal, driving through was El Pollo Loco (Chicken and double broccoli side).
I never really looked at Keto, because it sounded so unhealthy.
But I had some friends who were doing it so I started investigating it. You should look at Dr. Bergs Plan, it is an entire play list. It makes sense. I know many people, including Jillian Michaels yesterday have come out against it. I feel good, I am dropping weight and my blood sugar, which is always 140-170 has been down around 110.
I don't want to say the food is easy. It is hard to wrap your head around the eating Fat thing because we have been so taught by the sugar industry that Fat is the bad guy. If you look at my Food diary, friend me and you will be able to see it. Preparing the food is much easier than anything else I have done. I cook, and tend not to eat out a lot. I eat as much as I want, I never come close to any calorie goal.
I am going to reevaluate in a month. BTW, My plan is not do to this for life, but to greatly cut my carbs for life, and eat more vegetables when I reach goal weight. Good luck.12 -
You might be interested in the discussion on this current thread:
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10701339/keto-diet-good-or-bad/p13 -
I weigh 237 as of this morning, I have been on Keto since Sunday.
Background: I did Whole 30 and loved it, lost about 17 pounds and kept it off for a year. Whole 30 is wonderful, and healthy, but it is extremely challenging to do unless you are diligent enough to prepare your meals. The only restaurant I could quickly get a Whole 30 meal, driving through was El Pollo Loco (Chicken and double broccoli side).
I never really looked at Keto, because it sounded so unhealthy.
But I had some friends who were doing it so I started investigating it. You should look at Dr. Bergs Plan, it is an entire play list. It makes sense. I know many people, including Jillian Michaels yesterday have come out against it. I feel good, I am dropping weight and my blood sugar, which is always 140-170 has been down around 110.
I don't want to say the food is easy. It is hard to wrap your head around the eating Fat thing because we have been so taught by the sugar industry that Fat is the bad guy. If you look at my Food diary, friend me and you will be able to see it.
I am going to reevaluate in a month. BTW, My plan is not do to this for life, but to greatly cut my carbs for life, and eat more vegetables when I reacheach goal weight. Good luck.
Dr. Berg promised me I could lose a clothing size in a week. He also promised me 10 pounds in a week. Does that really sound like it makes sense to you??
Even a lot of what he says that sounds more sciency is just that, sciency rather than actual science.11 -
I weigh 237 as of this morning, I have been on Keto since Sunday. I feel better.
Background: I did Whole 30 and loved it, lost about 17 pounds and kept it off for a year. Whole 30 is wonderful, and healthy, but it is extremely challenging to do unless you are diligent enough to prepare your meals. The only restaurant I could quickly get a Whole 30 meal, driving through was El Pollo Loco (Chicken and double broccoli side).
I never really looked at Keto, because it sounded so unhealthy.
But I had some friends who were doing it so I started investigating it. You should look at Dr. Bergs Plan, it is an entire play list. It makes sense. I know many people, including Jillian Michaels yesterday have come out against it. I feel good, I am dropping weight and my blood sugar, which is always 140-170 has been down around 110.
I don't want to say the food is easy. It is hard to wrap your head around the eating Fat thing because we have been so taught by the sugar industry that Fat is the bad guy. If you look at my Food diary, friend me and you will be able to see it. Preparing the food is much easier than anything else I have done. I cook, and tend not to eat out a lot. I eat as much as I want, I never come close to any calorie goal.
I am going to reevaluate in a month. BTW, My plan is not do to this for life, but to greatly cut my carbs for life, and eat more vegetables when I reach goal weight. Good luck.
I don't think fat is "the bad guy"...it's a very essential nutrient...but I also have my doubts about eating copious amounts of it being healthy long term. I've looked at calculators before and for my calorie targets I would be consuming well over 200 grams of fat daily...that doesn't sound particularly healthy to me and at minimum the thought of it is just kinda disgusting.
Your blood pressure going down is likely attributable to you losing weight...all health markers typically get better with weight loss.9 -
@CJDaniel7
Remember "Dr" Berg is a Chiropractor not a Dietician. Personally I wouldn't go to a Dietician to have my spine cracked.
A leopard may change his spots but Berg resorted to very shady practices in the past - see link regarding the disciplinary action against him by his own Board. Make up your own mind if he is a reliable source or not.....
https://www.casewatch.net/board/chiro/berg.shtml
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You should look at Dr. Bergs Plan, it is an entire play list.
It's confusing. His website says that we should eliminate all sugars, but also eat raspberries and blackberries. I wouldn't take nutritional advice from someone who either doesn't understand what sugar is or doesn't understand that berries have it.
He also recommends eating nutritional yeast due the fact that it will meet all your needs for B vitamins, but recommends buying *unfortified* nutritional yeast. However, it's the fortification that makes nutritional yeast a good source of vitamins B2 and B12. Again, I would be very reluctant to take nutritional advice from someone who either doesn't care about this level of detail or doesn't comprehend it.
Source: https://www.drberg.com/blog-article/ketogenic-diet-plan17 -
@CJDaniel7
Remember "Dr" Berg is a Chiropractor not a Dietician. Personally I wouldn't go to a Dietician to have my spine cracked.
A leopard may change his spots but Berg resorted to very shady practices in the past - see link regarding the disciplinary action against him by his own Board. Make up your own mind if he is a reliable source or not.....
https://www.casewatch.net/board/chiro/berg.shtml
I always get such a sketchy feeling about non-medical doctors using their titles in a seeming attempt to boost their weight loss/nutritional credibility.12 -
All diets work or don't work based on 1 singular factor - Do they (you) create and maintain a calorie deficit. Period. End of debate.
If a diet helps you create a calorie deficit, then it will work. If it doesn't, then it won't.
If a diet helps you maintain a calorie deficit, and is sustainable over a relatively long period of time, then it's worth doing. If it doesn't/isn't, then it's not.
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