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Fed Up: documentary
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It was made in 2014 and is now available for watching on Amazonn Prime.
The documentary takes a look at obesity and how it has become a world wide epidemic with multi-faceted causes and many escalating factors.
The documentary takes a look at obesity and how it has become a world wide epidemic with multi-faceted causes and many escalating factors.
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Any documentary is biased to the agenda they are trying to achieve. There aren't many that OBJECTIVELY look at the opposing view. There is no obesity epidemic in Asian countries. And they eat processed foods, rice, sugar, etc. They just don't eat to damn much.
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It is not an epidemic, yet.
https://coach.nine.com.au/latest/10-reasons-why-the-japanese-have-avoided-the-obesity-crisis/5ce477ce-f3be-4a4d-a1a9-da0ff4ee812c
The documentary addresses the difference that maintenance of weight is not as simple as CICO. Various foods have different effects on the body. The documentary actually addresses how the food industry should be held responsible for the types of food they manufacture, sell, and the high number of overly processed foods on the market.24 -
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The ONE commonality with people who are overweight or obese is the availability of food and the affordability of it. It's NOT uncommon for many Asians who come to America to EASILY get overweight and obese because they tend to over eat much more than they did from the country they migrated from. Not to mention now that in the last couple of decades, companies have moved to Asia to have manufacturing done. This has increased income for many families and when there's money available, then there's more to spend on food and more to eat. It STILL boils down to calories in/calories out for the average healthy human. Documents like these use agendas to try to confuse people of how metabolism actually works.
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The ONE commonality with people who are overweight or obese is the availability of food and the affordability of it. It's NOT uncommon for many Asians who come to America to EASILY get overweight and obese because they tend to over eat much more than they did from the country they migrated from. Not to mention now that in the last couple of decades, companies have moved to Asia to have manufacturing done. This has increased income for many families and when there's money available, then there's more to spend on food and more to eat. It STILL boils down to calories in/calories out for the average healthy human. Documents like these use agendas to try to confuse people of how metabolism actually works.
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Actually the documentary addresses how the body digests simple sugars differently than complex carbohydrates and the sugars in fruit that is combined with fiber. There is a difference in the effects of how your body reacts to table sugar and fruit juice than a piece of fruit. It isn't just CICO.45 -
The ONE commonality with people who are overweight or obese is the availability of food and the affordability of it. It's NOT uncommon for many Asians who come to America to EASILY get overweight and obese because they tend to over eat much more than they did from the country they migrated from. Not to mention now that in the last couple of decades, companies have moved to Asia to have manufacturing done. This has increased income for many families and when there's money available, then there's more to spend on food and more to eat. It STILL boils down to calories in/calories out for the average healthy human. Documents like these use agendas to try to confuse people of how metabolism actually works.
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Actually the documentary addresses how the body digests simple sugars differently than complex carbohydrates and the sugars in fruit that is combined with fiber. There is a difference in the effects of how your body reacts to table sugar and fruit juice than a piece of fruit. It isn't just CICO.
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I've seen this documentary and a dozen like it. I absorb information from all but don't take any of them as gospel.8
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It is not an epidemic, yet.
https://coach.nine.com.au/latest/10-reasons-why-the-japanese-have-avoided-the-obesity-crisis/5ce477ce-f3be-4a4d-a1a9-da0ff4ee812c
The documentary addresses the difference that maintenance of weight is not as simple as CICO. Various foods have different effects on the body. The documentary actually addresses how the food industry should be held responsible for the types of food they manufacture, sell, and the high number of overly processed foods on the market.
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Documentaries are entertainment. They only give you the parts of the story that support the point they're trying to make, and conveniently leave out research or examples that refute it or muddy the waters. Then they work on your emotions so you want to believe them.
The obesity problem is a complex and multi faceted problem. It would be really nice if we could blame it on the big bad food companies and the evil sugar. But it has a lot more to do with people eating mindlessly, having easy access to all the food, and becoming more and more sedentary.
Documentaries might be an even bigger spreader of half truths and pseudoscience than FB is. Anyway, I bet if you searched older threads in the Debate forum you'll find we've discussed Fed Up at length before. I lost weight and have maintained while eating processed food just by calorie counting, eating sweets in moderation, and not following advice from any documentaries.16 -
Documentaries are entertainment. They only give you the parts of the story that support the point they're trying to make, and conveniently leave out research or examples that refute it or muddy the waters. Then they work on your emotions so you want to believe them.
The obesity problem is a complex and multi faceted problem. It would be really nice if we could blame it on the big bad food companies and the evil sugar. But it has a lot more to do with people eating mindlessly, having easy access to all the food, and becoming more and more sedentary.
Documentaries might be an even bigger spreader of half truths and pseudoscience than FB is. Anyway, I bet if you searched older threads in the Debate forum you'll find we've discussed Fed Up at length before. I lost weight and have maintained while eating processed food just by calorie counting, eating sweets in moderation, and not following advice from any documentaries.
To blame all documentaries as being antihelpful in any seems a bit overreaching and broad stroke. Rarely does a particular theme apply to anything all of the time.10 -
It is not an epidemic, yet.
https://coach.nine.com.au/latest/10-reasons-why-the-japanese-have-avoided-the-obesity-crisis/5ce477ce-f3be-4a4d-a1a9-da0ff4ee812c
The documentary addresses the difference that maintenance of weight is not as simple as CICO. Various foods have different effects on the body. The documentary actually addresses how the food industry should be held responsible for the types of food they manufacture, sell, and the high number of overly processed foods on the market.
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But isn't this precisely my point? The types of food we eat definitely plays a role into the obesity rate. When Japanese and Chinese citizens began consuming more processed foods, and more foods from the West, that was when their obesity rates began to climb.
I don't have any adgenda other seeking out sources of information. I find it interesting that so many people are quick to diss a possible source of information so quickly as being meaningless without checking it out first.15 -
I've seen this documentary and a dozen like it. I absorb information from all but don't take any of them as gospel.
I tend go to peer reviewed research first to get my information when I am researching something. This particular doc showed me a few areas that are worth pursuing further. I also found the doc interesting in that I did not know so many studies are financed by the very companies that make food that is not good for us, i.e. Coca-Cola.15 -
It's great that this documentary did it for you and you obviously feel strongly about it. If it answered some of your questions, fantastic. But one size does not fit all. You can't expect everyone to feel the same.
In case you missed my post, I DID see it. 😬9 -
Documentaries are entertainment. They only give you the parts of the story that support the point they're trying to make, and conveniently leave out research or examples that refute it or muddy the waters. Then they work on your emotions so you want to believe them.
The obesity problem is a complex and multi faceted problem. It would be really nice if we could blame it on the big bad food companies and the evil sugar. But it has a lot more to do with people eating mindlessly, having easy access to all the food, and becoming more and more sedentary.
Documentaries might be an even bigger spreader of half truths and pseudoscience than FB is. Anyway, I bet if you searched older threads in the Debate forum you'll find we've discussed Fed Up at length before. I lost weight and have maintained while eating processed food just by calorie counting, eating sweets in moderation, and not following advice from any documentaries.
Outside of the health and food sphere, there are actually a lot of high quality, informative documentaries. So I don't like to tarnish the whole genre. But health and food documentaries tend to be fairly spectacular messes of pseudoscience.20 -
The ONE commonality with people who are overweight or obese is the availability of food and the affordability of it. It's NOT uncommon for many Asians who come to America to EASILY get overweight and obese because they tend to over eat much more than they did from the country they migrated from. Not to mention now that in the last couple of decades, companies have moved to Asia to have manufacturing done. This has increased income for many families and when there's money available, then there's more to spend on food and more to eat. It STILL boils down to calories in/calories out for the average healthy human. Documents like these use agendas to try to confuse people of how metabolism actually works.
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Actually the documentary addresses how the body digests simple sugars differently than complex carbohydrates and the sugars in fruit that is combined with fiber. There is a difference in the effects of how your body reacts to table sugar and fruit juice than a piece of fruit. It isn't just CICO.
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Yes, you are correct in that all sugars are eventually broken down into glycogen for the body to use, but what happens when the body is given table sugar and fruit is vastly different:
https://healthyeating.sfgate.com/body-process-fruit-sugars-same-way-refined-sugar-8174.html26 -
It's great that this documentary did it for you and you obviously feel strongly about it. If it answered some of your questions, fantastic. But one size does not fit all. You can't expect everyone to feel the same.
In case you missed my post, I DID see it. 😬
I did see your mention. I feel "strongly" only in that I thought the doc was informational and brought light to many different factors that revolve around obesity. I made no mention of a one-size fits all solution.12 -
It's great that this documentary did it for you and you obviously feel strongly about it. If it answered some of your questions, fantastic. But one size does not fit all. You can't expect everyone to feel the same.
In case you missed my post, I DID see it. 😬
I did see your mention. I feel "strongly" only in that I thought the doc was informational and brought light to many different factors that revolve around obesity. I made no mention of a one-size fits all solution.
You didn't mention one size fits all. I did.2
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