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Fat Shaming Plates or Political Correctness Run Amok?

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  • ilfaithilfaith Posts: 16,394Member Member Posts: 16,394Member Member
    I don't think the plates are as offensive as Forever 21 packaging Atkins Diet bars in shipments.

    https://nypost.com/2019/07/23/forever-21-sends-atkins-diet-bars-to-plus-size-customers/

    Although I wouldn't complain about free food.
  • MotorsheenMotorsheen Posts: 15,231Member Member Posts: 15,231Member Member
    ilfaith wrote: »
    I don't think the plates are as offensive as Forever 21 packaging Atkins Diet bars in shipments.

    https://nypost.com/2019/07/23/forever-21-sends-atkins-diet-bars-to-plus-size-customers/

    Although I wouldn't complain about free food.

    I read a response from Forever 21. They stated that many different promotional items are included with shipments of their garments and products. They didn't specifically target plus sized items with Atkins Bars..... so they say.
  • katsushiikatsushii Posts: 31Member, Premium Member Posts: 31Member, Premium Member
    jfdi6960 wrote: »

    This is 100x better than the Macy's jeans-size plate. I am so tempted to get this for my home...
    edited July 25
  • Crafty_camper123Crafty_camper123 Posts: 1,403Member Member Posts: 1,403Member Member
    ilfaith wrote: »
    I don't think the plates are as offensive as Forever 21 packaging Atkins Diet bars in shipments.

    https://nypost.com/2019/07/23/forever-21-sends-atkins-diet-bars-to-plus-size-customers/

    Although I wouldn't complain about free food.

    I saw that the other day. I could definatly see how this one can be percieved as fat shaming.
  • PhirrgusPhirrgus Posts: 1,904Member Member Posts: 1,904Member Member
    ilfaith wrote: »
    I don't think the plates are as offensive as Forever 21 packaging Atkins Diet bars in shipments.

    https://nypost.com/2019/07/23/forever-21-sends-atkins-diet-bars-to-plus-size-customers/

    Although I wouldn't complain about free food.

    I saw that the other day. I could definatly see how this one can be percieved as fat shaming.

    But it wasn't "targeted" at only people who ordered plus size clothing.
    Forever 21 surprises our customers with free test products from third parties in their e-commerce orders” and that the Atkins bar was sent to customers who ordered any item, not just to those who ordered clothing in larger sizes.
  • Crafty_camper123Crafty_camper123 Posts: 1,403Member Member Posts: 1,403Member Member
    Phirrgus wrote: »
    ilfaith wrote: »
    I don't think the plates are as offensive as Forever 21 packaging Atkins Diet bars in shipments.

    https://nypost.com/2019/07/23/forever-21-sends-atkins-diet-bars-to-plus-size-customers/

    Although I wouldn't complain about free food.

    I saw that the other day. I could definatly see how this one can be percieved as fat shaming.

    But it wasn't "targeted" at only people who ordered plus size clothing.
    Forever 21 surprises our customers with free test products from third parties in their e-commerce orders” and that the Atkins bar was sent to customers who ordered any item, not just to those who ordered clothing in larger sizes.

    Ah I see. I may or may not have skimmed through that article. :grimace: The quick little blip I read, made it look like they targeted only customers who bought plus sized clothing, and not others.
  • PhirrgusPhirrgus Posts: 1,904Member Member Posts: 1,904Member Member
    Phirrgus wrote: »
    ilfaith wrote: »
    I don't think the plates are as offensive as Forever 21 packaging Atkins Diet bars in shipments.

    https://nypost.com/2019/07/23/forever-21-sends-atkins-diet-bars-to-plus-size-customers/

    Although I wouldn't complain about free food.

    I saw that the other day. I could definatly see how this one can be percieved as fat shaming.

    But it wasn't "targeted" at only people who ordered plus size clothing.
    Forever 21 surprises our customers with free test products from third parties in their e-commerce orders” and that the Atkins bar was sent to customers who ordered any item, not just to those who ordered clothing in larger sizes.

    Ah I see. I may or may not have skimmed through that article. :grimace: The quick little blip I read, made it look like they targeted only customers who bought plus sized clothing, and not others.

    I do my share of skimming. Gets me every time lol. :D
  • Crafty_camper123Crafty_camper123 Posts: 1,403Member Member Posts: 1,403Member Member
    Phirrgus wrote: »
    Phirrgus wrote: »
    ilfaith wrote: »
    I don't think the plates are as offensive as Forever 21 packaging Atkins Diet bars in shipments.

    https://nypost.com/2019/07/23/forever-21-sends-atkins-diet-bars-to-plus-size-customers/

    Although I wouldn't complain about free food.

    I saw that the other day. I could definatly see how this one can be percieved as fat shaming.

    But it wasn't "targeted" at only people who ordered plus size clothing.
    Forever 21 surprises our customers with free test products from third parties in their e-commerce orders” and that the Atkins bar was sent to customers who ordered any item, not just to those who ordered clothing in larger sizes.

    Ah I see. I may or may not have skimmed through that article. :grimace: The quick little blip I read, made it look like they targeted only customers who bought plus sized clothing, and not others.

    I do my share of skimming. Gets me every time lol. :D


    Probably not the best way of garnering info before commenting in the debate forum. :lol:

    I re-read the article. I wonder if sending Quest bars instead of Atkins bars would have been less triggering for people?? I'm guessing it was the association with the diet Atkins is known for that caused offense? Or like Special K protein bars VS Slim Fast meal bars. Both are nutritionally similar, but one is associated with a weight loss program, and one isn't.
    Just pondering out loud...

    edited July 25
  • liaoverbrookliaoverbrook Posts: 108Member Member Posts: 108Member Member
    Phirrgus wrote: »
    Phirrgus wrote: »
    ilfaith wrote: »
    I don't think the plates are as offensive as Forever 21 packaging Atkins Diet bars in shipments.

    https://nypost.com/2019/07/23/forever-21-sends-atkins-diet-bars-to-plus-size-customers/

    Although I wouldn't complain about free food.

    I saw that the other day. I could definatly see how this one can be percieved as fat shaming.

    But it wasn't "targeted" at only people who ordered plus size clothing.
    Forever 21 surprises our customers with free test products from third parties in their e-commerce orders” and that the Atkins bar was sent to customers who ordered any item, not just to those who ordered clothing in larger sizes.

    Ah I see. I may or may not have skimmed through that article. :grimace: The quick little blip I read, made it look like they targeted only customers who bought plus sized clothing, and not others.

    I do my share of skimming. Gets me every time lol. :D


    Probably not the best way of garnering info before commenting in the debate forum. :lol:

    I re-read the article. I wonder if sending Quest bars instead of Atkins bars would have been less triggering for people?? I'm guessing it was the association with the diet Atkins is known for that caused offense? Or like Special K protein bars VS Slim Fast meal bars. Both are nutritionally similar, but one is associated with a weight loss program, and one isn't.
    Just pondering out loud...

    To me thats the nail on the head, one is coded as weightloss and the other, to me, as 'healthy'. I think the issue is probably the unsolicited diet bar in an order but ASOS, when I ordered clothes that range from a 4-8, have sent me a sample box of special k. I've also received polo mints, a box of kit kat senses (or whatever theyre called, the salted caramel ones!) and other food items. Defo agree that its how they're viewed :)
  • DragonwolfDragonwolf Posts: 5,678Member Member Posts: 5,678Member Member
    jfdi6960 wrote: »

    Does anyone else read this in an Australian accent?

    I could do without the outer border, but find the rest of it funny (though to be fair, I'd find it get old pretty quickly, but good for a short chuckle). Much better executed than the "mom jeans" plate, for sure.
  • PhirrgusPhirrgus Posts: 1,904Member Member Posts: 1,904Member Member
    Phirrgus wrote: »
    Phirrgus wrote: »
    ilfaith wrote: »
    I don't think the plates are as offensive as Forever 21 packaging Atkins Diet bars in shipments.

    https://nypost.com/2019/07/23/forever-21-sends-atkins-diet-bars-to-plus-size-customers/

    Although I wouldn't complain about free food.

    I saw that the other day. I could definatly see how this one can be percieved as fat shaming.

    But it wasn't "targeted" at only people who ordered plus size clothing.
    Forever 21 surprises our customers with free test products from third parties in their e-commerce orders” and that the Atkins bar was sent to customers who ordered any item, not just to those who ordered clothing in larger sizes.

    Ah I see. I may or may not have skimmed through that article. :grimace: The quick little blip I read, made it look like they targeted only customers who bought plus sized clothing, and not others.

    I do my share of skimming. Gets me every time lol. :D


    Probably not the best way of garnering info before commenting in the debate forum. :lol:

    I re-read the article. I wonder if sending Quest bars instead of Atkins bars would have been less triggering for people?? I'm guessing it was the association with the diet Atkins is known for that caused offense? Or like Special K protein bars VS Slim Fast meal bars. Both are nutritionally similar, but one is associated with a weight loss program, and one isn't.
    Just pondering out loud...
    Phirrgus wrote: »
    Phirrgus wrote: »
    ilfaith wrote: »
    I don't think the plates are as offensive as Forever 21 packaging Atkins Diet bars in shipments.

    https://nypost.com/2019/07/23/forever-21-sends-atkins-diet-bars-to-plus-size-customers/

    Although I wouldn't complain about free food.

    I saw that the other day. I could definatly see how this one can be percieved as fat shaming.

    But it wasn't "targeted" at only people who ordered plus size clothing.
    Forever 21 surprises our customers with free test products from third parties in their e-commerce orders” and that the Atkins bar was sent to customers who ordered any item, not just to those who ordered clothing in larger sizes.

    Ah I see. I may or may not have skimmed through that article. :grimace: The quick little blip I read, made it look like they targeted only customers who bought plus sized clothing, and not others.

    I do my share of skimming. Gets me every time lol. :D


    Probably not the best way of garnering info before commenting in the debate forum. :lol:

    I re-read the article. I wonder if sending Quest bars instead of Atkins bars would have been less triggering for people?? I'm guessing it was the association with the diet Atkins is known for that caused offense? Or like Special K protein bars VS Slim Fast meal bars. Both are nutritionally similar, but one is associated with a weight loss program, and one isn't.
    Just pondering out loud...

    To me thats the nail on the head, one is coded as weightloss and the other, to me, as 'healthy'. I think the issue is probably the unsolicited diet bar in an order but ASOS, when I ordered clothes that range from a 4-8, have sent me a sample box of special k. I've also received polo mints, a box of kit kat senses (or whatever theyre called, the salted caramel ones!) and other food items. Defo agree that its how they're viewed :)

    I agree too. Anything associated with weightloss will be viewed differently.
  • Crafty_camper123Crafty_camper123 Posts: 1,403Member Member Posts: 1,403Member Member
    Dragonwolf wrote: »
    jfdi6960 wrote: »

    Does anyone else read this in an Australian accent?

    I could do without the outer border, but find the rest of it funny (though to be fair, I'd find it get old pretty quickly, but good for a short chuckle). Much better executed than the "mom jeans" plate, for sure.

    I love that plate, lol. I was picturing a Gordon Ramsey type british Accent. I'm the type that finds insults funny though. I would find an evil version of MFP that calls me (funny) names such as on that plate when I blow my calories for the day both amusing and useful, lol.
  • 777Gemma888777Gemma888 Posts: 8,895Member Member Posts: 8,895Member Member
    It's meant to be funny. This is a set I wouldn't buy for a "mum" friend, as new mums, sensitivity meters might be pushed, missing the humor.
  • vim_n_vigorvim_n_vigor Posts: 4,203Member Member Posts: 4,203Member Member
    FWIW, I think these are silly plates, that would not have very high sales, and most people here and other places online would never have even seen them if not for the 'outrage' over them. I don't think they were very well thought out or vetted, but I don't think they are worth nearly the attention they have received.
  • bmeadows380bmeadows380 Posts: 1,274Member Member Posts: 1,274Member Member
    Dragonwolf wrote: »
    jfdi6960 wrote: »

    Does anyone else read this in an Australian accent?

    I could do without the outer border, but find the rest of it funny (though to be fair, I'd find it get old pretty quickly, but good for a short chuckle). Much better executed than the "mom jeans" plate, for sure.

    I love that plate, lol. I was picturing a Gordon Ramsey type british Accent. I'm the type that finds insults funny though. I would find an evil version of MFP that calls me (funny) names such as on that plate when I blow my calories for the day both amusing and useful, lol.

    I always thought it could be funny to have an insulting mode on my car GPS - one that calls you names or gripes when it tells you turn and you don't, and maybe even whines and refuses to talk to you if you miss a certain number of turns in a row......
  • Crafty_camper123Crafty_camper123 Posts: 1,403Member Member Posts: 1,403Member Member
    Dragonwolf wrote: »
    jfdi6960 wrote: »

    Does anyone else read this in an Australian accent?

    I could do without the outer border, but find the rest of it funny (though to be fair, I'd find it get old pretty quickly, but good for a short chuckle). Much better executed than the "mom jeans" plate, for sure.

    I love that plate, lol. I was picturing a Gordon Ramsey type british Accent. I'm the type that finds insults funny though. I would find an evil version of MFP that calls me (funny) names such as on that plate when I blow my calories for the day both amusing and useful, lol.

    I always thought it could be funny to have an insulting mode on my car GPS - one that calls you names or gripes when it tells you turn and you don't, and maybe even whines and refuses to talk to you if you miss a certain number of turns in a row......
    I would pay extra for a google maps feature that does this, LOL. Somebody get on this. There's money to be made!
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