Calorie Burn
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likeASoldier75 wrote: »It’s not my opinion, it’s just like it is. Infact you burn the same calories if you walk or run a mile, the difference is only the speed. Humans walk because it is a very ergonomic and efficient way to move and because it does not strain your body, there is no training effect.
Walking is an activity and that’s good but it does not prevent any muscle loss, does not train endurance or strength. The only reason walking could be considered exercise is if the person is ill, handicapped or very overweight - everyone else would profit much more from real strength or endurance exercise.
If you like walking do it, but do not count calories for it and if this time is your only exercise time, do something real, that takes effort and improves your body.
Actually running burns twice as many calories as walking per mile. It's Mass X Distance X Efficiency Ratio for the physics behind calorie burns for walking and running.
You touched on the reason (efficiency) but the penny didn't drop for you and your "fact" isn't true.
Walking is roughly twice as efficient a movement as running (energy bounding upwards during running is wasted energy).11 -
likeASoldier75 wrote: »It’s not my opinion, it’s just like it is. Infact you burn the same calories if you walk or run a mile, the difference is only the speed. Humans walk because it is a very ergonomic and efficient way to move and because it does not strain your body, there is no training effect.
Walking is an activity and that’s good but it does not prevent any muscle loss, does not train endurance or strength. The only reason walking could be considered exercise is if the person is ill, handicapped or very overweight - everyone else would profit much more from real strength or endurance exercise.
If you like walking do it, but do not count calories for it and if this time is your only exercise time, do something real, that takes effort and improves your body.
Walking is not strength training. However strength training is not the only type of exercise. Walking is cardio vascular exercise in every sense of the definition, as defined by every medical and sports body that defines exercise.
While other exercises may burn more calories, or increase strength or endurance more, there's not really any evidence that they are anymore beneficial for cardiovascular health. You can get all of those health benefits from exercise simply from walking.11 -
likeASoldier75 wrote: »It’s not my opinion, it’s just like it is. Infact you burn the same calories if you walk or run a mile, the difference is only the speed. Humans walk because it is a very ergonomic and efficient way to move and because it does not strain your body, there is no training effect.
Walking is an activity and that’s good but it does not prevent any muscle loss, does not train endurance or strength. The only reason walking could be considered exercise is if the person is ill, handicapped or very overweight - everyone else would profit much more from real strength or endurance exercise.
If you like walking do it, but do not count calories for it and if this time is your only exercise time, do something real, that takes effort and improves your body.
Walking increases cardiovascular fitness and is one of the most recommended exercises for heart health as just about anyone can do it, it's free, and it's pleasant for most people so they are more inclined to do it and keep on doing it.
Personally, I think strength training is good and most people should be doing it...I also am an avid cyclist and enjoy more vigorous cardiovascular activity...but that doesn't mean walking isn't exercise...and it can absolutely train endurance...maybe not endurance to run a marathon, but a lot of people aren't really interested in that.7 -
likeASoldier75 wrote: »It’s not my opinion, it’s just like it is. Infact you burn the same calories if you walk or run a mile, the difference is only the speed. Humans walk because it is a very ergonomic and efficient way to move and because it does not strain your body, there is no training effect.
Walking is an activity and that’s good but it does not prevent any muscle loss, does not train endurance or strength. The only reason walking could be considered exercise is if the person is ill, handicapped or very overweight - everyone else would profit much more from real strength or endurance exercise.
If you like walking do it, but do not count calories for it and if this time is your only exercise time, do something real, that takes effort and improves your body.
Try not being able to walk or stand on a limb for at least a month and then tell me that walking doesn't prevent muscle loss.16 -
likeASoldier75 wrote: »Yes she would, but walking is not an actual exercise unless your are actually hiking, I could not bother putting it into an app.
Huh. Tell that to the 75 lbs I lost through a combination of watching my intake and lots of walking.13 -
likeASoldier75 wrote: »It’s not my opinion, it’s just like it is. Infact you burn the same calories if you walk or run a mile, the difference is only the speed. Humans walk because it is a very ergonomic and efficient way to move and because it does not strain your body, there is no training effect.
Walking is an activity and that’s good but it does not prevent any muscle loss, does not train endurance or strength. The only reason walking could be considered exercise is if the person is ill, handicapped or very overweight - everyone else would profit much more from real strength or endurance exercise.
If you like walking do it, but do not count calories for it and if this time is your only exercise time, do something real, that takes effort and improves your body.
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likeASoldier75 wrote: »It’s not my opinion, it’s just like it is. Infact you burn the same calories if you walk or run a mile, the difference is only the speed. Humans walk because it is a very ergonomic and efficient way to move and because it does not strain your body, there is no training effect.
Walking is an activity and that’s good but it does not prevent any muscle loss, does not train endurance or strength. The only reason walking could be considered exercise is if the person is ill, handicapped or very overweight - everyone else would profit much more from real strength or endurance exercise.
If you like walking do it, but do not count calories for it and if this time is your only exercise time, do something real, that takes effort and improves your body.
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likeASoldier75 wrote: »It’s not my opinion, it’s just like it is. Infact you burn the same calories if you walk or run a mile, the difference is only the speed. Humans walk because it is a very ergonomic and efficient way to move and because it does not strain your body, there is no training effect.
Walking is an activity and that’s good but it does not prevent any muscle loss, does not train endurance or strength. The only reason walking could be considered exercise is if the person is ill, handicapped or very overweight - everyone else would profit much more from real strength or endurance exercise.
If you like walking do it, but do not count calories for it and if this time is your only exercise time, do something real, that takes effort and improves your body.
Try not being able to walk or stand on a limb for at least a month and then tell me that walking doesn't prevent muscle loss.
Yup! I experienced muscle loss twice in my life - once when I shattered my leg and the second time when I did my ankle in. Both required surgeries, weeks of being completely non weight bearing and months of rehab.6 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »likeASoldier75 wrote: »It’s not my opinion, it’s just like it is. Infact you burn the same calories if you walk or run a mile, the difference is only the speed. Humans walk because it is a very ergonomic and efficient way to move and because it does not strain your body, there is no training effect.
Walking is an activity and that’s good but it does not prevent any muscle loss, does not train endurance or strength. The only reason walking could be considered exercise is if the person is ill, handicapped or very overweight - everyone else would profit much more from real strength or endurance exercise.
If you like walking do it, but do not count calories for it and if this time is your only exercise time, do something real, that takes effort and improves your body.
Try not being able to walk or stand on a limb for at least a month and then tell me that walking doesn't prevent muscle loss.
Yup! I experienced muscle loss twice in my life - once when I shattered my leg and the second time when I did my ankle in. Both required surgeries, weeks of being completely non weight bearing and months of rehab.
And the amount of time and energy that it takes to regain that muscle? I've done it 4 times over now (all of the knee surgeries involved 6 weeks non weight bearing) and hope to never have to do it again.4 -
likeASoldier75 wrote: »Yes she would, but walking is not an actual exercise unless your are actually hiking, I could not bother putting it into an app.
It's my main cardio. I worked my way up to 2+ hours/day and generally burn over 600 calories walking. Trust me. It's exercise.10 -
likeASoldier75 wrote: »It’s not my opinion, it’s just like it is. Infact you burn the same calories if you walk or run a mile, the difference is only the speed. Humans walk because it is a very ergonomic and efficient way to move and because it does not strain your body, there is no training effect.
Walking is an activity and that’s good but it does not prevent any muscle loss, does not train endurance or strength. The only reason walking could be considered exercise is if the person is ill, handicapped or very overweight - everyone else would profit much more from real strength or endurance exercise.
If you like walking do it, but do not count calories for it and if this time is your only exercise time, do something real, that takes effort and improves your body.
Interesting. You see, I had surgery a year ago and, in the recovery room, my heart rate set off an alarm when it dropped below 40bpm. Before the cardiologist even looked at me, he asked the nurse calling it in to find out whether I was a runner. At the time I wasn't. Just a 2-hr/day walker. But once he heard that, he said that it was probably nothing. That was also when I discovered that my RHR was 54 beats per minute. From walking.
Do you know what a 54 bpm RHR is?
That's right. Athlete. From walking. Not hiking. Walking.
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@estherdragonbat SUPER COOL. When you walk your two hours is that at a very fast pace? I have short fat legs even though I am tall. Its hard to get my elephant trunks to move super fast. I feel like I am trucking it to just be at 3.2 on a treadmill. It makes me feel like I am not working hard enough to see that 3.2 is considered 'moderate/leisure' pace.1
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QueenofCaffeine4Life wrote: »@estherdragonbat SUPER COOL. When you walk your two hours is that at a very fast pace? I have short fat legs even though I am tall. Its hard to get my elephant trunks to move super fast. I feel like I am trucking it to just be at 3.2 on a treadmill. It makes me feel like I am not working hard enough to see that 3.2 is considered 'moderate/leisure' pace.
I probably started around 2.5mph. Now, depending on terrain (I live in Toronto; we're built over a ravine network, so there are some areas that involve a lot of uphill and downhill or stairs), it's between 3.3 and 3.5.
As you build up leg strength, your pace will increase. It takes time, but I remember wondering if my watch was working right the first time I realized I'd walked a distance in 25 minutes that had once taken me 35.
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estherdragonbat wrote: »likeASoldier75 wrote: »It’s not my opinion, it’s just like it is. Infact you burn the same calories if you walk or run a mile, the difference is only the speed. Humans walk because it is a very ergonomic and efficient way to move and because it does not strain your body, there is no training effect.
Walking is an activity and that’s good but it does not prevent any muscle loss, does not train endurance or strength. The only reason walking could be considered exercise is if the person is ill, handicapped or very overweight - everyone else would profit much more from real strength or endurance exercise.
If you like walking do it, but do not count calories for it and if this time is your only exercise time, do something real, that takes effort and improves your body.
Interesting. You see, I had surgery a year ago and, in the recovery room, my heart rate set off an alarm when it dropped below 40bpm. Before the cardiologist even looked at me, he asked the nurse calling it in to find out whether I was a runner. At the time I wasn't. Just a 2-hr/day walker. But once he heard that, he said that it was probably nothing.
I was hit by a car years ago doing hill repeats on my bike. The machine at the ER kept sounding the alarm every time my HR went below some threshold, maybe 60 bpm? After a few times checking on me and seeing that I wasn't dying, I told them I'm a cyclist, and the nurse shut the alarm off.
I haven't met anyone in the offline world who's shared this experience.4 -
oh no, leslie sansone is ripping us all off! lol (referring to "walk away the pounds" videos). If it is done at a pace to get your heart rate up, it is absolutely training and endurance exercise. Or fitbit users are logging steps for what??1
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It doesn't even have to get your heart rate up, tbh. I mean, yes, just getting up and moving around increases your heart rate more than sitting at a desk was. But you still burn calories walking, even at a slower pace. (Obviously fewer than at a brisker one, but still something.)2
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@tdl1210 LOL!! I do her Walking DVD's with a group of friends on Tues. and Thur. over every week. Super cool that you even know about her.
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@estherdragonbat you are correct. even at a slow pace, it is worth it. any movement above no movement is good imo. i'm no gym rat (in my younger years). i am just hitting my step goal most days. and @QueenofCaffeine4Life i just "stole" 2 dvd's of hers from a friend. I remember her from years ago. i didn't think anyone would get it!!!
Just to introduce myself, i'm a returnee to MFP after many years. need to lose quite a bit of weight before i turn (gasp) 50 at the end of January. any advice on forum topics to look up for us 'seasoned' ladies is much appreciated. FYI i'm vegetarian working my way to vegan. have a wonderful day2
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