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Low calorie or low carb what really works?
DMTlovesyou
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Im so confused about what really is the best and healthiest way to eat for weight loss and health.
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eat less calories than you burn
low carb works for some because they find fat satiates them; high protein works for others for same reason13 -
It isn't really low calories OR low carb. Not mutually exclusive or inclusive.
That's a bit like science fiction or library books?
Ie you could have both or a book ( diet) that is neither.8 -
If "low calorie"=calorie deficit, that works.
Of course, if "low carb"=calorie deficit, that also works.
Low carb and low cal are not really different and opposing things, inherently.
Are you desiring to do low carb? Is there something about it that appeals to you? If so, try it (but know many people successful at low carb also count cals and anyone successful has reduced cals and created a calorie deficit, with or without counting).
Also, know that calorie deficit does not require "low cal" in the sense of 1200 (or, worse, lower), but just lower than whatever your maintenance may be.6 -
If you have a specific health condition such as diabetes or PCOS you may see health benefits from a low carb diet. If you are just seeking to lose weight what matters is a caloric deficit which can be achieved by whatever type of diet works best for you.10
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Chicken or the egg... 🙄2
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The best way to lose weight is to find a way of eating that allows you to consistently hit a calorie deficit. For some people, low carbohydrate is a way to do this, but other people prefer moderate or even high carbohydrate plans. It's just personal preference.
The healthiest way to lose weight is to eat a variety of foods that meet your nutritional needs while you're at that deficit. You can do this on a low carbohydrate diet, but you can also do it with other ways of eating.11 -
just_Tomek wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »eat less calories than you burn
low carb works for some because they find fat satiates them; high protein works for others for same reason
Too easy. Simple not possible.
Keto works, also vegan works. Since they both work, keto vegan and you will lose weight double fast.
I thought I was sarcastic...😉9 -
just_Tomek wrote: »psychod787 wrote: »just_Tomek wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »eat less calories than you burn
low carb works for some because they find fat satiates them; high protein works for others for same reason
Too easy. Simple not possible.
Keto works, also vegan works. Since they both work, keto vegan and you will lose weight double fast.
I thought I was sarcastic...😉
You have no idea at least you know how to read unlike couple others that pressed the wrong button
I think getting the sarcasm requires someone to be at least a little familiar with your posts.10 -
DMTlovesyou wrote: »Im so confused about what really is the best and healthiest way to eat for weight loss and health.
All macronutrients (carbohydrates, fats, and protein) have calories.
Carbs and protein are 4 calories per gram.
Fat is 9 calories per gram.
By going "low carb", you are cutting carbs to reduce the amount of calories you are ingesting. By going low calorie, you are reducing the overall amount of calories you are ingesting. It's really up to you what will be easier for you to sustain for the long game.
I love carbs. Going low carb is a guaranteed way to cause a binge, for me. I just eat at a lower calorie target, and allow all the foods.10 -
just_Tomek wrote: »psychod787 wrote: »just_Tomek wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »eat less calories than you burn
low carb works for some because they find fat satiates them; high protein works for others for same reason
Too easy. Simple not possible.
Keto works, also vegan works. Since they both work, keto vegan and you will lose weight double fast.
I thought I was sarcastic...😉
You have no idea at least you know how to read unlike couple others that pressed the wrong button
Vegan Keto? I'm not one to put down an eating style, but that just sounds horrid! Right up there with carnivore!😱8 -
Once again, I'm going to "advertise" the way that worked for me:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10636388/free-customized-personal-weight-loss-eating-plan-not-spam-or-mlm/p1
I suppose it's low calorie, if "low" means a little below the calories that would maintain your current weight. It might be low carb, if that works best for you - or not, if it doesn't.
For sure, it's simple and straightforward, a way to gradually remodel your eating in a calorie-appropriate, reasonably healthy direction, while keeping the process manageable, and foods mostly tasty/satisfying.
Easy? Not always. Pretty much none of the approaches are easy every minute, in every possible way.
Best wishes!6 -
Oh, it's a hot new thing. We've had a few threads about it.4
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BarbaraHelen2013 wrote: »
LOL2 -
BarbaraHelen2013 wrote: »
Nothing but beyond burgers and soy chicken nuggets... I cringe...😩2 -
BarbaraHelen2013 wrote: »
(Warning: Cynic mode on.)
I think it's just another instance of the sin and retribution model of weight loss. We got fat; we are bad people; we must suffer to expiate our sins; we must eat WFPB carnivore keto on an 23:45/00:15 intermittent fasting schedule cutting out all white foods, alcohol, and anything we personally think tastes good; while hitting the gym 6 hours a day to do HIIT and the heaviest possible lifting to failure!
Lasts about 5 minutes, confirms sense of sin and failure, "fall off wagon" for a few months and eat/drink All The Things, . . . then rinse and repeat.
(/cynic).
Sigh.
For clarity: No criticism of specific food regimens intended, to the extent that people find those regimens let them eat a well-rounded balanced diet in a way that's easier and pleasant for them. Or exercise regimens that are enjoyable, and provide some semi-rational route to health and fitness. It's the "suffer to pay for sin" model I'm railing about.15 -
CI<CO for weight/fat loss.
Variety, exercise, rest and recovery for health...2 -
DMTlovesyou wrote: »Im so confused about what really is the best and healthiest way to eat for weight loss and health.
Weight management is about calories (energy). When you consume fewer calories (less energy) than your body requires, you burn fat (stored energy) to make up for that deficiency. How you get there is up to you. Cutting carbs is one of many ways to reduce calorie intake. It also doesn't have to be "low" calories...your consumption just has to be less than you require to maintain the status quo. I lose about 1 Lb per week eating 2300-2500 calories for example...hardly "low" calorie...just lower than what I require to maintain my weight.3 -
BarbaraHelen2013 wrote: »
(Warning: Cynic mode on.)
I think it's just another instance of the sin and retribution model of weight loss. We got fat; we are bad people; we must suffer to expiate our sins; we must eat WFPB carnivore keto on an 23:45/00:15 intermittent fasting schedule cutting out all white foods, alcohol, and anything we personally think tastes good; while hitting the gym 6 hours a day to do HIIT and the heaviest possible lifting to failure!
Lasts about 5 minutes, confirms sense of sin and failure, "fall off wagon" for a few months and eat/drink All The Things, . . . then rinse and repeat.
(/cynic).
Sigh.
For clarity: No criticism of specific food regimens intended, to the extent that people find those regimens let them eat a well-rounded balanced diet in a way that's easier and pleasant for them. Or exercise regimens that are enjoyable, and provide some semi-rational route to health and fitness. It's the "suffer to pay for sin" model I'm railing about.
It's this exactly I think. I also think there is an element of thinking that the average American diet is terrible, therefore the more different your diet is from the average, the better it is.4 -
While I've never posted here in all the time I've used MFP, I felt that I had to jump in, here. I started a Keto diet 10 days ago. It's easy, but expect to cook your own food, and make those WHOLE foods! Meals can be so simple...today I had a grilled center-cut pork chop and sauteed spinach. Grilled chicken wings are DIVINE and I find it easy to stay, "low carb". The one drawback is that while everything I eat now is delicious, my appetite has diminished to the point that I'm struggling to make my daily minimum. As a result, I've lost 8 lbs in ten days. My waistline has been the most dramatic change, although I typically lose weight from the top down. I do need to add that as it's springtime in southwest Mississippi, I have been working outside nearly every day, sometimes logging 19,000 steps a day. I'm probably not typical, but I feel fantastic with more energy than I know what to do with!
But to answer your question, yes, CI/CO is the trick, however a low-carb diet will cause your appetite to decrease and while you'll eat healthier, you may struggle to take in enough calories. I've added multi-vitamins and drink only water or lemon-ginger tea. The first couple of days saw a few light cravings, but those passed after the first week. Hey, I can do ANYTHING for a week!
I'd like to lose about 10 more lbs and once I accomplish that, re-introduce a few old favorites back into my diet such as a glass of wine or slice of bread. Even still, Keto will always be a part of my life, maybe a week out of every month just to make sure I don't go off the deep end.
Good luck, you!
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