Coronavirus prep
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amusedmonkey wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »Today in Rome helicopters flying overhead to make sure people are not having group barbecues up on the terraces and roofs of buildings. They'll be flying tomorrow too. There are roadblocks everywhere. The fines are stiff for people who want to get out of the city and go to the beaches or mountains. To make things worse the weather is gorgeous.
I'm curious, why? If a family is quarantined together, does it really make a difference for them to have a barbecue on the terrace? It's been raining a lot lately, but I can see people doing all kinds of activities in their yards or on the terrace once it clears up.
She mentioned group barbecues, so maybe they are just looking for larger groups.
That makes sense. I heard Italians are kind of similar to us - very social and have a smaller personal space circle. If that's true it's even more worrying.
Some cases in apartment buildings had more close contact cases related to them than average and all of them from the same building. Apparently they visit each other. A friend of my sister's has 20 person family gatherings because a few of them live close to each other (family means extended family, grandparents, aunts, uncles, and if anyone is married, add the husband's/wife's family to the family).
The government is spreading itself thin to make this work, but people are not willing to go against their nature (or nurture) even for a little while. It's painful to watch and know not much can be done about it. We have police, army, and drones, and we still hear about people breaking quarantine and driving cars being caught every day.8 -
When grocery stores limit how many can enter the store at a time, people need to shop alone, if at all possible.
Husband is now driving around looking for roadside vegetable stalls. We have some here in San Diego county, fingers crossed.9 -
L1zardQueen wrote: »When grocery stores limit how many can enter the store at a time, people need to shop alone, if at all possible.
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Yes it’s like the stores here said to the news when someone spread a rumor kids aren’t allowed. They said spouses/ adult family members stay home y Friends stay home make a list of all their needs collect money y go. If a single parent/abusive spouse situations don’t starve we understand you have to bring kids too young to stay home alone (not talking about teens their talking about a mom with a toddler y 6yr old) or single parent of an adult handicap person or elderly parent who cannot be left home alone for an hour without constant care. They said a single mom with a new born is still counted as 1. This is their advice in my town others vary I’m noticing y our local news info is geared towards our areas so they report with words like 1st to sound like we’re all under the same umbrella for this rain storm but we’re not. They also suggested to try to do online curbside pickup,online delivery , or mail to home if you can instead,but they know ones without computer 👩💻 to internet especially if living in a shelter or displaced due to nonpayment of rent before laws protected have no choice but to go inside .
Some countries have 1 person no kids allowed rules even noticed their forced to ask a neighbor for help or order online only.3 -
Our online curbside pick up is improving. Ha. For weeks there have been no available appointments from anyone, this week we got an opening for Wednesday. LOL5
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Posting this mainly to share the idea of looking into ordering from farmer market vendors, either for pickup at the market if they're still operational in your area, or to see if they're doing drop-off or pickup at a location in your area.
I had heard that farmers markets in our area were moving to pre-order pickups only, so customers wouldn't be browsing, lingering, and touching the products. I went online to see about the market I go to most often, and they had links to all their vendors so you could order directly. I had hoped to get some ham, and there was a vendor that sold various portions, but fortunately before placing my order I noticed that although they were listed as a vendor for my local market, the drop off point listed for that market name was a shopping mall with the same name in another state. I'm on the east coast, so states aren't huge, but it was still more than a hundred miles away.
So, I couldn't get the ham, but I found a bakery vendor that was doing pickups from its bakery which turned out be just a couple of miles from my home -- less than half the distance to the actual farmers market -- and they've started selling some baking ingredients as well.* So I got 2 1/2 dozen eggs (that was the smallest amount you can order -- it will be nice to feel like I can have an egg whenever I want it rather than feeling like I should ration them), a couple of packages of pita (one went right into the freezer, some greek yogurt, hummus, and olives. When I went to pick them up, they had had to close a little early, and had set up a table at the rear entrance with boxes and bags containing people's orders. I waited in my car until the unmasked folks who were already there picked up their stuff and left, so I didn't have any direct exposure to anybody. Much more relaxing than the grocery store. Plus, it seemed like they were really happy to get the business, whereas at the grocery store I feel more like I and other customers are viewed as a risk and a burden to the workers.
*This is something else I've heard about restaurants in our area: apparently some of them have started selling groceries, toilet paper, hand sanitizer, in order to supplement their revenues from carryout and delivery of their own foods. So this is another possible distribution chain folks could look into.11 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »Today in Rome helicopters flying overhead to make sure people are not having group barbecues up on the terraces and roofs of buildings. They'll be flying tomorrow too. There are roadblocks everywhere. The fines are stiff for people who want to get out of the city and go to the beaches or mountains. To make things worse the weather is gorgeous.
I'm curious, why? If a family is quarantined together, does it really make a difference for them to have a barbecue on the terrace? It's been raining a lot lately, but I can see people doing all kinds of activities in their yards or on the terrace once it clears up.
She mentioned group barbecues, so maybe they are just looking for larger groups.
Yes--this. Most of the big terraces are for everyone in the building. The News is showing enforcement of the no beaches law. They caught a guy on the beach and a police helicopter whirling right overhead, sand flying and him doing a semi-dignified retreat with a big towel wrapped around his head. I told my husband that even if we made it to the beach (an hour and a half south of Rome), we'd be reported by the locals and be heavily fined.2 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »Posting this mainly to share the idea of looking into ordering from farmer market vendors, either for pickup at the market if they're still operational in your area, or to see if they're doing drop-off or pickup at a location in your area.
My favorite one (coordinated by the market for maximum variety and to make delivery easier) is doing it, but although they sent a notice that they were opening for orders Monday at 7 am and expected to sell out, I didn't take it that seriously and checked around 10, when they were, of course, sold out. I'm planning to try again, and faster, this Monday. What's actually in season here is limited, but you can also get eggs and meat and plants and some preserved stuff.
I've heard of people getting produce from restaurants too.2 -
I drove over to HomeDepot this morning thinking I might try to get seeds, but there was a line -- not too long and going reasonably rapidly, but still -- so I decided I would live without them, as that indicated it was more crowded inside than I really wanted to deal with. Driving back I noticed that there are again tons of people out, because it's nice. From what I saw it was mostly family groups together, not congregating in larger groups, and in one of the parks (I passed 3 of the biggest ones in my general area), I saw a police car driving through slowly, keeping an eye on things. Tennis courts were full, but again seemed to be separate family groups, and they are spaced far enough apart.
The big box stores, discount clubs, Wal-Marts, etc here limit the number of people in the store, hence the line, 1 in 1 out. They are limiting shoppers to 1 per 1,000 sq ft which makes store pretty empty feeling once inside.
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lynn_glenmont wrote: »Posting this mainly to share the idea of looking into ordering from farmer market vendors, either for pickup at the market if they're still operational in your area, or to see if they're doing drop-off or pickup at a location in your area.
Our town's market is canceled for the season, but my egg guy still delivers to my house every Friday, which I'm so grateful for!
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Theoldguy1 wrote: »I drove over to HomeDepot this morning thinking I might try to get seeds, but there was a line -- not too long and going reasonably rapidly, but still -- so I decided I would live without them, as that indicated it was more crowded inside than I really wanted to deal with. Driving back I noticed that there are again tons of people out, because it's nice. From what I saw it was mostly family groups together, not congregating in larger groups, and in one of the parks (I passed 3 of the biggest ones in my general area), I saw a police car driving through slowly, keeping an eye on things. Tennis courts were full, but again seemed to be separate family groups, and they are spaced far enough apart.
The big box stores, discount clubs, Wal-Marts, etc here limit the number of people in the store, hence the line, 1 in 1 out. They are limiting shoppers to 1 per 1,000 sq ft which makes store pretty empty feeling once inside.
Yeah, of course they are limiting people, but the line means they are at max people allowed. Maybe I'll try again next week and see how it is, however.0 -
Walmart is 5 per 1000 sq feet. People are still shopping in pairs and trios, though (not talking about parents with small children - unfortunate but understandable in cases. Couples, mostly, and lots of teenage pairs with an adult I've seen) on both occasions I've been (once for a weekly shop and once for a medical need that came up unexpectedly). People are largely concentrated on the grocery area. No square footage is currently blocked off. The volume of shoppers feels fairly normal inside. Not crazy but certainly not sparse.Theoldguy1 wrote: »I drove over to HomeDepot this morning thinking I might try to get seeds, but there was a line -- not too long and going reasonably rapidly, but still -- so I decided I would live without them, as that indicated it was more crowded inside than I really wanted to deal with. Driving back I noticed that there are again tons of people out, because it's nice. From what I saw it was mostly family groups together, not congregating in larger groups, and in one of the parks (I passed 3 of the biggest ones in my general area), I saw a police car driving through slowly, keeping an eye on things. Tennis courts were full, but again seemed to be separate family groups, and they are spaced far enough apart.
The big box stores, discount clubs, Wal-Marts, etc here limit the number of people in the store, hence the line, 1 in 1 out. They are limiting shoppers to 1 per 1,000 sq ft which makes store pretty empty feeling once inside.
"Stores will now allow no more than five customers for each 1,000 square feet at a given time, roughly 20 percent of a store’s capacity"
https://corporate.walmart.com/newsroom/2020/04/03/changes-to-our-shopping-process-to-encourage-social-distancing5 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »Posting this mainly to share the idea of looking into ordering from farmer market vendors, either for pickup at the market if they're still operational in your area, or to see if they're doing drop-off or pickup at a location in your area.
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*This is something else I've heard about restaurants in our area: apparently some of them have started selling groceries, toilet paper, hand sanitizer, in order to supplement their revenues from carryout and delivery of their own foods. So this is another possible distribution chain folks could look into.
Yes, this is true here as well. And in at least one case here, the farmers market (my most frequent one) is now closed but has published lists of their vendors, and how to contact them for at-farm sales. So, looking at websites or Facebook pages of markets in your area may be a place to find these sources.
I posted in another thread by I think not here that another thing happening here is that one of the farm-to-table restaurants is using their supply chain to make up produce boxes, which they sell one day a week for pickup at the restaurant. This specific restaurant is expensive and a little on the precious side in their usual fare, but I thought the produce box prices were not super far out of line with what I'd normally pay for equal (i.e., very good) quality at the farmers' market. I split a box with a friend and got the items in the photo below (red potatoes, couple bulbs shallots, red onion, couple big watermelon radishes, fresh mint) plus two big heads of fancy leaf lettuce and some fresh mushrooms (I think oyster). My share was $13, and the restaurant kindly split the order in two for us. (Friend picked up at restaurant, delivered here contactlessly
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The produce is all local, from chilly mid-Michigan in April, so don't assume seasonality is widely a barrier to this being possible in (most of) your areas.
They offered a couple of different produce boxes, a couple meat boxes, dairy box, wine & cheese box, coffee box (includes coffee, dairy half & half, the restaurant's fancy vanilla/cardamom sugar cubes
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I think I and others have said before: Some of the local craft distilleries (that normally distill vodka, whiskey, etc.) are making hand sanitizer for sale. Local one here I know about is selling it around cost in consumer-size small bottles.6 -
I checked and it turned out that Home Depot is open (even this year) on Easter, so I figured I'd try it again, and also realized there was one I hadn't thought of that is probably the closest to me (it's west, so I wasn't as familiar with it as the ones between me and work or the one north of me). Went over there, and there was a line, but only two people, so I figured I'd try it out. The sign said only 100 people total in the store (which is quite big, like most HDs). I only needed to go to the garden/seed section, and it was probably the most relaxing time I've ever spent in a HD, I was in and out quickly, and they actually had all the seeds I was looking for, so yay.
Then I stopped for gas on the way home at the closest gas station to my place and they were selling masks (better than my makeshift masks that I've been using), so I picked up some. Typical stand outside and do the transaction through a tray gas station kind of thing.
Someone just a few houses down was selling flowers to plant, which I saw on my way home (they'd posted something in Nextdoor a while ago, but I didn't realize they were doing it every Sunday), so I got some of those too (transactions outside, everyone standing back and wearing masks). Bit more out of the house interaction than I'm totally comfortable with, but all pretty safe.
Irrationally happy about getting my seeds and flowers for Easter.11 -
I checked and it turned out that Home Depot is open (even this year) on Easter, so I figured I'd try it again, and also realized there was one I hadn't thought of that is probably the closest to me (it's west, so I wasn't as familiar with it as the ones between me and work or the one north of me). Went over there, and there was a line, but only two people, so I figured I'd try it out. The sign said only 100 people total in the store (which is quite big, like most HDs). I only needed to go to the garden/seed section, and it was probably the most relaxing time I've ever spent in a HD, I was in and out quickly, and they actually had all the seeds I was looking for, so yay.
Then I stopped for gas on the way home at the closest gas station to my place and they were selling masks (better than my makeshift masks that I've been using), so I picked up some. Typical stand outside and do the transaction through a tray gas station kind of thing.
Someone just a few houses down was selling flowers to plant, which I saw on my way home (they'd posted something in Nextdoor a while ago, but I didn't realize they were doing it every Sunday), so I got some of those too (transactions outside, everyone standing back and wearing masks). Bit more out of the house interaction than I'm totally comfortable with, but all pretty safe.
Irrationally happy about getting my seeds and flowers for Easter.
Which seeds did you get? And flowers?0 -
We’re having a spring snow storm today (6-7 inches so far and it’s supposed to continue through the very early Monday morning hours). That’s depressing. 🙁
We started some seeds in the house. We have lettuce, spinach, tomatoes and Mexican milk weed (butterfly magnets) and everything is doing great. Positive signs of spring, the grass is getting green (before it started to snow) and the blue birds are back.
This is the saddest holiday that I ever remember.11 -
missysippy930 wrote: »We’re having a spring snow storm today (6-7 inches so far and it’s supposed to continue through the very early Monday morning hours). That’s depressing. 🙁
We started some seeds in the house. We have lettuce, spinach, tomatoes and Mexican milk weed (butterfly magnets) and everything is doing great. Positive signs of spring, the grass is getting green (before it started to snow) and the blue birds are back.
This is the saddest holiday that I ever remember.
Snow?? I love snow! I remember that early April can have snow storms--my grandfathers funeral, and my brothers' wedding. Didn't it snow in April last year? I remember my SIL sending a video.3 -
snowflake954 wrote: »missysippy930 wrote: »We’re having a spring snow storm today (6-7 inches so far and it’s supposed to continue through the very early Monday morning hours). That’s depressing. 🙁
We started some seeds in the house. We have lettuce, spinach, tomatoes and Mexican milk weed (butterfly magnets) and everything is doing great. Positive signs of spring, the grass is getting green (before it started to snow) and the blue birds are back.
This is the saddest holiday that I ever remember.
Snow?? I love snow! I remember that early April can have snow storms--my grandfathers funeral, and my brothers' wedding. Didn't it snow in April last year? I remember my SIL sending a video.
Yeah, we had a big one a little later than this last year. And a flat out blizzard the year before last. My DD’s birthday is April 30th. We had 9” of snow the day she was born. It’s not unusual, but still depressing. Have to go through the sloppy mess of melting again. It’s fun in November, but it gets old by April.5 -
It's Barbra Streisand's fault because she sang about "April snow"
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I'm in Madison, WI. It was 90 degrees on April 23 when I started having premature labor for my 1st. 2 days later he was born. I went home May 10 and it was snowing He was huge for 32 weeks and did well, came home 2 weeks later. Now almost 30, 6'2", and built like a Viking warrior. With glorious red hair--like mine when I was young.
Covid is creating many odd memories, including this Easter at home for so many. I'm hoping that the stories will seem funny when the challenges of the time have passed.
Happy Easter to all who celebrate.12
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