July 2020 Monthly Running Challenge

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  • PastorVincent
    PastorVincent Posts: 6,668 Member
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    @T1DCarnivoreRunner How do you manually upload to strava from the watch? DH is running and hasn't messed with it yet. I think he has a 935 or maybe a 735, I have the fenix 5 too.

    TIA
    ETA I looked at it and it seems rather straight forward. Nice about garmin being down, my scale "forgets" how much I weigh daily, LOL! Any word on who is demanding the ransom? DH said china, but I think that may be a self started rumor. My bets on Apple LOL! 2020 got us again.

    @Elise4270 Rather than type it all out, I'll just post a link I found: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/jul/24/garmin-down-how-to-get-activities-on-strava-ride-swim-walk

    Obviously nobody knows for sure who is demanding the ransom. It would be easier if that was the case. It's probably some terrorist organization that wants to use the money for illicit purposes. It's best not to pay the ransom, though I know this sucks. In fairness, we don't know for sure they will get it back even if they did pay the $10M.

    No one knows anything, but the rumors seem to point to a Russian group called "Evil Corp" using ransomware packaged called WastedLocker - but since Garmin is being really good about staying tight-lipped we have no actual facts just some leaks and outside observation. It does seem likely though.

    Gramin will have to make a statement at some point, but they are in crisis damage control right now so I would not expect much anytime soon.

    Rumor is Garmin paid the ransom...

    https://news-sky-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/garmin-obtains-decryption-key-after-ransomware-attack-12036761

    :(
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    @T1DCarnivoreRunner How do you manually upload to strava from the watch? DH is running and hasn't messed with it yet. I think he has a 935 or maybe a 735, I have the fenix 5 too.

    TIA
    ETA I looked at it and it seems rather straight forward. Nice about garmin being down, my scale "forgets" how much I weigh daily, LOL! Any word on who is demanding the ransom? DH said china, but I think that may be a self started rumor. My bets on Apple LOL! 2020 got us again.

    @Elise4270 Rather than type it all out, I'll just post a link I found: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/jul/24/garmin-down-how-to-get-activities-on-strava-ride-swim-walk

    Obviously nobody knows for sure who is demanding the ransom. It would be easier if that was the case. It's probably some terrorist organization that wants to use the money for illicit purposes. It's best not to pay the ransom, though I know this sucks. In fairness, we don't know for sure they will get it back even if they did pay the $10M.

    No one knows anything, but the rumors seem to point to a Russian group called "Evil Corp" using ransomware packaged called WastedLocker - but since Garmin is being really good about staying tight-lipped we have no actual facts just some leaks and outside observation. It does seem likely though.

    Gramin will have to make a statement at some point, but they are in crisis damage control right now so I would not expect much anytime soon.

    Rumor is Garmin paid the ransom...

    https://news-sky-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/garmin-obtains-decryption-key-after-ransomware-attack-12036761

    :(

    link doesnt work
  • T1DCarnivoreRunner
    T1DCarnivoreRunner Posts: 11,502 Member
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    @T1DCarnivoreRunner How do you manually upload to strava from the watch? DH is running and hasn't messed with it yet. I think he has a 935 or maybe a 735, I have the fenix 5 too.

    TIA
    ETA I looked at it and it seems rather straight forward. Nice about garmin being down, my scale "forgets" how much I weigh daily, LOL! Any word on who is demanding the ransom? DH said china, but I think that may be a self started rumor. My bets on Apple LOL! 2020 got us again.

    @Elise4270 Rather than type it all out, I'll just post a link I found: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/jul/24/garmin-down-how-to-get-activities-on-strava-ride-swim-walk

    Obviously nobody knows for sure who is demanding the ransom. It would be easier if that was the case. It's probably some terrorist organization that wants to use the money for illicit purposes. It's best not to pay the ransom, though I know this sucks. In fairness, we don't know for sure they will get it back even if they did pay the $10M.

    No one knows anything, but the rumors seem to point to a Russian group called "Evil Corp" using ransomware packaged called WastedLocker - but since Garmin is being really good about staying tight-lipped we have no actual facts just some leaks and outside observation. It does seem likely though.

    Gramin will have to make a statement at some point, but they are in crisis damage control right now so I would not expect much anytime soon.

    Rumor is Garmin paid the ransom...

    https://news-sky-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/garmin-obtains-decryption-key-after-ransomware-attack-12036761

    :(

    I sure hope that rumor is false.
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    edited July 2020
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    @T1DCarnivoreRunner How do you manually upload to strava from the watch? DH is running and hasn't messed with it yet. I think he has a 935 or maybe a 735, I have the fenix 5 too.

    TIA
    ETA I looked at it and it seems rather straight forward. Nice about garmin being down, my scale "forgets" how much I weigh daily, LOL! Any word on who is demanding the ransom? DH said china, but I think that may be a self started rumor. My bets on Apple LOL! 2020 got us again.

    @Elise4270 Rather than type it all out, I'll just post a link I found: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/jul/24/garmin-down-how-to-get-activities-on-strava-ride-swim-walk

    Obviously nobody knows for sure who is demanding the ransom. It would be easier if that was the case. It's probably some terrorist organization that wants to use the money for illicit purposes. It's best not to pay the ransom, though I know this sucks. In fairness, we don't know for sure they will get it back even if they did pay the $10M.

    No one knows anything, but the rumors seem to point to a Russian group called "Evil Corp" using ransomware packaged called WastedLocker - but since Garmin is being really good about staying tight-lipped we have no actual facts just some leaks and outside observation. It does seem likely though.

    Gramin will have to make a statement at some point, but they are in crisis damage control right now so I would not expect much anytime soon.

    Rumor is Garmin paid the ransom...

    https://news-sky-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/garmin-obtains-decryption-key-after-ransomware-attack-12036761

    :(

    link doesnt work


    Works but something funny with it. My camera keeps opening as I read it... beware. That’s terrible if they paid it. Couldn’t that be considered treason? Supporting terrorism?
  • PastorVincent
    PastorVincent Posts: 6,668 Member
    edited July 2020
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    @T1DCarnivoreRunner How do you manually upload to strava from the watch? DH is running and hasn't messed with it yet. I think he has a 935 or maybe a 735, I have the fenix 5 too.

    TIA
    ETA I looked at it and it seems rather straight forward. Nice about garmin being down, my scale "forgets" how much I weigh daily, LOL! Any word on who is demanding the ransom? DH said china, but I think that may be a self started rumor. My bets on Apple LOL! 2020 got us again.

    @Elise4270 Rather than type it all out, I'll just post a link I found: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/jul/24/garmin-down-how-to-get-activities-on-strava-ride-swim-walk

    Obviously nobody knows for sure who is demanding the ransom. It would be easier if that was the case. It's probably some terrorist organization that wants to use the money for illicit purposes. It's best not to pay the ransom, though I know this sucks. In fairness, we don't know for sure they will get it back even if they did pay the $10M.

    No one knows anything, but the rumors seem to point to a Russian group called "Evil Corp" using ransomware packaged called WastedLocker - but since Garmin is being really good about staying tight-lipped we have no actual facts just some leaks and outside observation. It does seem likely though.

    Gramin will have to make a statement at some point, but they are in crisis damage control right now so I would not expect much anytime soon.

    Rumor is Garmin paid the ransom...

    :(

    link doesnt work

    ERf try this one,

    Works but something funny with it. My camera keeps opening as I read it... beware. That’s terrible if they paid it. Couldn’t that be considered treason? Supporting terrorism?

    Yes it can, but I doubt it would be enforced in this case.

    As for the camera, odd. My browser permissions are set to block that so I did not have that issue. But if that link is trying to turn on people's camera's maybe we should have a moderator remove it.


    ETA: I reported my post and the link.
  • T1DCarnivoreRunner
    T1DCarnivoreRunner Posts: 11,502 Member
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    @T1DCarnivoreRunner How do you manually upload to strava from the watch? DH is running and hasn't messed with it yet. I think he has a 935 or maybe a 735, I have the fenix 5 too.

    TIA
    ETA I looked at it and it seems rather straight forward. Nice about garmin being down, my scale "forgets" how much I weigh daily, LOL! Any word on who is demanding the ransom? DH said china, but I think that may be a self started rumor. My bets on Apple LOL! 2020 got us again.

    @Elise4270 Rather than type it all out, I'll just post a link I found: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/jul/24/garmin-down-how-to-get-activities-on-strava-ride-swim-walk

    Obviously nobody knows for sure who is demanding the ransom. It would be easier if that was the case. It's probably some terrorist organization that wants to use the money for illicit purposes. It's best not to pay the ransom, though I know this sucks. In fairness, we don't know for sure they will get it back even if they did pay the $10M.

    No one knows anything, but the rumors seem to point to a Russian group called "Evil Corp" using ransomware packaged called WastedLocker - but since Garmin is being really good about staying tight-lipped we have no actual facts just some leaks and outside observation. It does seem likely though.

    Gramin will have to make a statement at some point, but they are in crisis damage control right now so I would not expect much anytime soon.

    Rumor is Garmin paid the ransom...

    https://news-sky-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/garmin-obtains-decryption-key-after-ransomware-attack-12036761

    :(

    link doesnt work

    ERf try this one,

    https://news-sky-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/garmin-obtains-decryption-key-after-ransomware-attack-12036761?usqp=mq331AQIKAGwASDYAQE=&fbclid=IwAR1poAH7bD9gsBkMrIoH1soj1J41HOhmpNlQvUfqJaM9tJZx382EdPqc98A&amp_js_v=0.1#referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s&ampshare=https://news.sky.com/story/garmin-obtains-decryption-key-after-ransomware-attack-12036761

    Works but something funny with it. My camera keeps opening as I read it... beware. That’s terrible if they paid it. Couldn’t that be considered treason? Supporting terrorism?

    I'm not a lawyer, but I know if they are on the Treasury dept. sanctioned lists - SDN list and such - they can't be paid by U.S. companies. But perhaps Garmin is looking at it from the legal standpoint that they don't really know who they are paying and therefore didn't knowingly pay anyone who is sanctioned. And if that is the case, why didn't they request a W-8 from the recipient before sending payment so that they would have the information they need to collect before sending payment?! Either way they want to look at it, it's likely not legal. I say "likely" because I don't truly know all the details.
  • RunsOnEspresso
    RunsOnEspresso Posts: 3,218 Member
    From what the article said it sounded like they paid a 3rd party to get around the sanction.

    The article didn't try to open my camera.
  • Scott6255
    Scott6255 Posts: 2,426 Member
    Oh @marisap2010 I'm so sorry about your dad 😢 Hope he gets better soon!
  • rheddmobile
    rheddmobile Posts: 6,840 Member
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    @T1DCarnivoreRunner How do you manually upload to strava from the watch? DH is running and hasn't messed with it yet. I think he has a 935 or maybe a 735, I have the fenix 5 too.

    TIA
    ETA I looked at it and it seems rather straight forward. Nice about garmin being down, my scale "forgets" how much I weigh daily, LOL! Any word on who is demanding the ransom? DH said china, but I think that may be a self started rumor. My bets on Apple LOL! 2020 got us again.

    @Elise4270 Rather than type it all out, I'll just post a link I found: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/jul/24/garmin-down-how-to-get-activities-on-strava-ride-swim-walk

    Obviously nobody knows for sure who is demanding the ransom. It would be easier if that was the case. It's probably some terrorist organization that wants to use the money for illicit purposes. It's best not to pay the ransom, though I know this sucks. In fairness, we don't know for sure they will get it back even if they did pay the $10M.

    No one knows anything, but the rumors seem to point to a Russian group called "Evil Corp" using ransomware packaged called WastedLocker - but since Garmin is being really good about staying tight-lipped we have no actual facts just some leaks and outside observation. It does seem likely though.

    Gramin will have to make a statement at some point, but they are in crisis damage control right now so I would not expect much anytime soon.

    Rumor is Garmin paid the ransom...

    https://news-sky-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/garmin-obtains-decryption-key-after-ransomware-attack-12036761

    :(

    link doesnt work

    ERf try this one,

    https://news-sky-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/garmin-obtains-decryption-key-after-ransomware-attack-12036761?usqp=mq331AQIKAGwASDYAQE=&fbclid=IwAR1poAH7bD9gsBkMrIoH1soj1J41HOhmpNlQvUfqJaM9tJZx382EdPqc98A&amp_js_v=0.1#referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s&ampshare=https://news.sky.com/story/garmin-obtains-decryption-key-after-ransomware-attack-12036761

    Works but something funny with it. My camera keeps opening as I read it... beware. That’s terrible if they paid it. Couldn’t that be considered treason? Supporting terrorism?

    I'm not a lawyer, but I know if they are on the Treasury dept. sanctioned lists - SDN list and such - they can't be paid by U.S. companies. But perhaps Garmin is looking at it from the legal standpoint that they don't really know who they are paying and therefore didn't knowingly pay anyone who is sanctioned. And if that is the case, why didn't they request a W-8 from the recipient before sending payment so that they would have the information they need to collect before sending payment?! Either way they want to look at it, it's likely not legal. I say "likely" because I don't truly know all the details.

    I’m not seeing any evidence based on that article that ransom was paid, just that “someone” rumored it must have been because things are up now. But the more likely explanation for that is that they restored files from offline backups, given the time frame.
  • PastorVincent
    PastorVincent Posts: 6,668 Member
    edited July 2020
    I’m not seeing any evidence based on that article that ransom was paid, just that “someone” rumored it must have been because things are up now. But the more likely explanation for that is that they restored files from offline backups, given the time frame.

    Yeah, it is all rumors as Garmin has officially said nothing. We do not even have a confirmation that it was a ransomware attack.

    However, restoring from offline backups (which is what I would do over paying a ransom) would mean data loss. There is no way around it as they would have to use a backup from before the attack and that means there would be a data gap. If there is no data gap, then they found some other way to get back online. Decrypting is not possible in 4 days assuming the ransomware used a decent crypto algorithm. That means they either paid the ransom OR the ransomware rumor itself was wrong.

    But it is all speculation.
  • PastorVincent
    PastorVincent Posts: 6,668 Member
    edited July 2020
    I’m not seeing any evidence based on that article that ransom was paid, just that “someone” rumored it must have been because things are up now. But the more likely explanation for that is that they restored files from offline backups, given the time frame.

    Yeah, it is all rumors as Garmin has officially said nothing. We do not even have a confirmation that it was a ransomware attack.

    However, restoring from offline backups (which is what I would do over paying a ransom) would mean data loss. There is no way around it as they would have to use a backup from before the attack and that means there would be a data gap. If there is no data gap, then they found some other way to get back online. Decrypting is not possible in 4 days assuming the ransomware used a decent crypto algorithm. That means they either paid the ransom OR the ransomware rumor itself was wrong.

    But it is all speculation.

    UPDATE:

    Garmin® issues statement on recent outage
    https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20200727005634/en/Garmin®-issues-statement-outage/
  • T1DCarnivoreRunner
    T1DCarnivoreRunner Posts: 11,502 Member
    I’m not seeing any evidence based on that article that ransom was paid, just that “someone” rumored it must have been because things are up now. But the more likely explanation for that is that they restored files from offline backups, given the time frame.

    Yeah, it is all rumors as Garmin has officially said nothing. We do not even have a confirmation that it was a ransomware attack.

    However, restoring from offline backups (which is what I would do over paying a ransom) would mean data loss. There is no way around it as they would have to use a backup from before the attack and that means there would be a data gap. If there is no data gap, then they found some other way to get back online. Decrypting is not possible in 4 days assuming the ransomware used a decent crypto algorithm. That means they either paid the ransom OR the ransomware rumor itself was wrong.

    But it is all speculation.

    UPDATE:

    Garmin® issues statement on recent outage
    https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20200727005634/en/Garmin®-issues-statement-outage/

    Since they don't expect any material financial impact, and considering $10M to be financially material, I think this means they did not pay the ransom.
  • PastorVincent
    PastorVincent Posts: 6,668 Member
    I’m not seeing any evidence based on that article that ransom was paid, just that “someone” rumored it must have been because things are up now. But the more likely explanation for that is that they restored files from offline backups, given the time frame.

    Yeah, it is all rumors as Garmin has officially said nothing. We do not even have a confirmation that it was a ransomware attack.

    However, restoring from offline backups (which is what I would do over paying a ransom) would mean data loss. There is no way around it as they would have to use a backup from before the attack and that means there would be a data gap. If there is no data gap, then they found some other way to get back online. Decrypting is not possible in 4 days assuming the ransomware used a decent crypto algorithm. That means they either paid the ransom OR the ransomware rumor itself was wrong.

    But it is all speculation.

    UPDATE:

    Garmin® issues statement on recent outage
    https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20200727005634/en/Garmin®-issues-statement-outage/

    Since they don't expect any material financial impact, and considering $10M to be financially material, I think this means they did not pay the ransom.

    Or they are saying that to prevent admitting to a crime. They could mean "10 mil is small enough we can carry on without it" or something. The only to thing to be sure is that announcement was very carefully worded by a team of experts.

    But it does seem to confirm the ransomware attack at least.
  • T1DCarnivoreRunner
    T1DCarnivoreRunner Posts: 11,502 Member
    I’m not seeing any evidence based on that article that ransom was paid, just that “someone” rumored it must have been because things are up now. But the more likely explanation for that is that they restored files from offline backups, given the time frame.

    Yeah, it is all rumors as Garmin has officially said nothing. We do not even have a confirmation that it was a ransomware attack.

    However, restoring from offline backups (which is what I would do over paying a ransom) would mean data loss. There is no way around it as they would have to use a backup from before the attack and that means there would be a data gap. If there is no data gap, then they found some other way to get back online. Decrypting is not possible in 4 days assuming the ransomware used a decent crypto algorithm. That means they either paid the ransom OR the ransomware rumor itself was wrong.

    But it is all speculation.

    UPDATE:

    Garmin® issues statement on recent outage
    https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20200727005634/en/Garmin®-issues-statement-outage/

    Since they don't expect any material financial impact, and considering $10M to be financially material, I think this means they did not pay the ransom.

    Or they are saying that to prevent admitting to a crime. They could mean "10 mil is small enough we can carry on without it" or something. The only to thing to be sure is that announcement was very carefully worded by a team of experts.

    But it does seem to confirm the ransomware attack at least.

    Not likely... the materiality threshold is something determined, usually with advice and collaboration with external auditors, and isn't something that is decided on a case by case basis. I find it hard to believe that $10M would be immaterial, but I haven't looked at Garmin's financials, so I don't have anything to base that belief upon.
  • Tramboman
    Tramboman Posts: 2,482 Member
    7-1 7k slow
    7-2 7k slow
    7-3 7k between slow and easy
    7-4 7k ditto
    7-5 7k closer to easy
    7-6 rest
    7-7 7k slow
    7-8 7k easy
    7-9 7k slow
    7-10 7k slow
    7-11 7k easy
    7-12 7k slow
    7-13 rest
    7-14 7k slow
    7-15 rest
    7-16 7k closer to easy than slow
    7-17 7k closer to moderate than easy
    7-18 7k easy
    7-19 5k easy
    7-20 rest
    7-21 7k slow
    7-22 7k easy
    7-23 7k easy
    7-24 7k easy
    7-25 7k easy
    7-26 7k easy
    7-27 rest
    7-28 7k easy

    July Total: 159k
    July Goal: 170k

    January Total: 161k
    February Total: 167k
    March Total: 181k
    April Total: 191k
    May Total: 200k
    June Total: 156k

    2020 Total through June: 1056k / 176k per month

    Sunny, upper 60s F, and a little breeze from the west to offset the humidity. Had a tough time deciding whether to go slow or easy and just let it happen.

    When you pop in here claiming your December 2020 mileage, what accomplishments will you have made?

    Return to a good running weight of 175 lbs
    Run at least 4 5k races
    Get a 5k PR
    Average at least 138k per month, to meet my Run the Year pledge of 1,020 miles
    Stretch goal: If I can average 169k per month, I can run 2020k in 2020

    Run the Year Team: Pavement Pounders

    2020 races:

    9-19 Race for the Parks 5k, Hudson, OH
    10-11 Haunted Hustle 5k, Aurora, OH
  • PastorVincent
    PastorVincent Posts: 6,668 Member
    I’m not seeing any evidence based on that article that ransom was paid, just that “someone” rumored it must have been because things are up now. But the more likely explanation for that is that they restored files from offline backups, given the time frame.

    Yeah, it is all rumors as Garmin has officially said nothing. We do not even have a confirmation that it was a ransomware attack.

    However, restoring from offline backups (which is what I would do over paying a ransom) would mean data loss. There is no way around it as they would have to use a backup from before the attack and that means there would be a data gap. If there is no data gap, then they found some other way to get back online. Decrypting is not possible in 4 days assuming the ransomware used a decent crypto algorithm. That means they either paid the ransom OR the ransomware rumor itself was wrong.

    But it is all speculation.

    UPDATE:

    Garmin® issues statement on recent outage
    https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20200727005634/en/Garmin®-issues-statement-outage/

    Since they don't expect any material financial impact, and considering $10M to be financially material, I think this means they did not pay the ransom.

    Or they are saying that to prevent admitting to a crime. They could mean "10 mil is small enough we can carry on without it" or something. The only to thing to be sure is that announcement was very carefully worded by a team of experts.

    But it does seem to confirm the ransomware attack at least.

    Not likely... the materiality threshold is something determined, usually with advice and collaboration with external auditors, and isn't something that is decided on a case by case basis. I find it hard to believe that $10M would be immaterial, but I haven't looked at Garmin's financials, so I don't have anything to base that belief upon.

    Maybe, but "we paid the ransom" would be admitting to a federal crime, so I would not expect to see anything suggesting that regardless of what they did.