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autumnblade75 wrote: »I am not prepared, now, for the new work guidelines.
As of today, we are required to do a Prework Health Check. Well, I woke up with a headache, so the system told me to stay home and I can't come back until I'm cleared by my health care provider. So I called Teladoc. Who are not authorized (nobody is) to clear me for Covid. Over a headache. No fever, no cough, no nothing, but a headache.
Of course, calling the Teladoc managed to trigger an anxiety attack. So that was lovely.
I'm not sure how to resolve this.
I'm locked out of performing the next Prework Health Check until I contact a manager. I have no idea who is actually a manager, vs a supervisor, and I definitely don't have any contact information. I texted my supervisor, but like he already told me, all he got was the same flyer they handed me at the door.
I guess I just walk in with the Teladoc diagnosis of "headache" printed out as proof that I sought care, and hope for the best. Super system we got here, keeping everyone safe. I half hope they fire me. Maybe I should try harder.
This kind of system encourages people to lie. It's like at my husband's work. The first day they implemented screening like this, he was asked, "have you come in contact with a covid positive person?" He answered, "I don't know. I don't think so. How would I know that?" The employee screening him sent him home and told him he was supposed to say "no" definitively. Sent the next guy home because of his allergies. Asked if he had a cough. The guy said he just had the usual allergy cough he had every morning of his life. Nothing new or any other symptoms. He got sent home. Half the staff was sent home that first day. Managers had to call everybody back in and "coach" them how to respond to the screening questions. Everybody basically learned to lie after that. The coworker with the frequent migraines straight up lies to the screener's face multiple times per week. If this becomes a habit, actual sick people might start lying. Maybe they need more than just strict yes/no questions as your ticket into work.
My workplace has a plant nurse that handles such things. We had a bunch of questions to answer for screening before going back to work. We are then supposed to self-report if the answer to any of those things changes. If you answered "yes" to any of them, she had to review further. I was honest when I filled it out - one of the questions was "Have you been seen by a medical professional for a new issue since 3-17-20?" (I think that was the date, I forget exactly, but that was the day I started WFH.) My answer was yes, and it was a non-Covid issue (I was seen for e. coli). No problems because she just looked at it and knew there wasn't a concern.0 -
ExistingFish wrote: »
Coughs do so much for our bodies, and there are so many reasons to cough. I hate that coughs have been stigmatized.
I've noticed at work that we all, myself included, explain our coughs now. Before we just coughed but now it's "something went down the wrong way", "just my allergies again", "tickle in my throat".
I've never been so afraid to cough, ya get the stink eye from everyone😬7 -
slimgirljo15 wrote: »ExistingFish wrote: »
Coughs do so much for our bodies, and there are so many reasons to cough. I hate that coughs have been stigmatized.
I've noticed at work that we all, myself included, explain our coughs now. Before we just coughed but now it's "something went down the wrong way", "just my allergies again", "tickle in my throat".
I've never been so afraid to cough, ya get the stink eye from everyone😬
I have allergies, I clear my throat. My kids have allergies, they haven't learned to clear their throats, they cough. They're little. Can't help it, it's a reflex. Needless to stay I've stayed on top of the allergy meds, so it hasn't been a huge issue.5 -
corinasue1143 wrote: »Is anyone else as tired of hearing “in these uncertain times”, “in these trying times”, etc. as I am. When was life ever certain? My life is more certain now than it ever has been. I am more in control of my own fate than I ever have been. Divorced, kids grown, parents and siblings deceased, retired. Things are written in stone more than ever before in my life. I am certain. Trying times? Let me tell you about trying times! No, you don’t really want to know. But trust me, these aren’t trying times. I’ve seen trying times, and I know some of you have, too.
Rant over. Deep breaths. It’s all good.
I think I'm agreeing with you here, mostly, but not exactly: If the worst thing about my day is people overusing trite conventional gloom-oriented phrases that don't apply in a literal way to me personally, I'm going to say it's generally been a pretty good day.
Compared to, y'know, actual trying times like widowhood, cancer diagnosis, etc., in my past; or to unemployment, financial strain, illnesses, pending eviction, and various kinds of current trauma in other peoples' present.
Right now, I'm a lot more tired of . . . well, no, that would be political. But not in the way the general reader may assume.7 -
ExistingFish wrote: »
Coughs do so much for our bodies, and there are so many reasons to cough. I hate that coughs have been stigmatized.
I've noticed at work that we all, myself included, explain our coughs now. Before we just coughed but now it's "something went down the wrong way", "just my allergies again", "tickle in my throat".
Yep, I was just at the supermarket a second ago and had a little cough due to allergies and the checkout girl looked at me weird.3 -
I say “it’s a COVID cough”
I tell them “yes I’m exposed to COVID daily, I work in a hospital laboratory”
And I rolled my eyes when the hospital front desk temperature was 95.2 one morning. I mean, that’s pretty much dead. But that’s what they wrote on my wrist band and sent me inside.
I’m a hardened, heartless hospital worker who’s been in the biz 33 years. I need to quit or retire, but need to live somewhere and eat a little.16 -
terrmadden wrote: »I say “it’s a COVID cough”
I tell them “yes I’m exposed to COVID daily, I work in a hospital laboratory”
And I rolled my eyes when the hospital front desk temperature was 95.2 one morning. I mean, that’s pretty much dead. But that’s what they wrote on my wrist band and sent me inside.
I was in hospital recently and the nurse took my temperature with two different methods, both totally different results. Not good really for a hospital.2 -
corinasue1143 wrote: »Is anyone else as tired of hearing “in these uncertain times”, “in these trying times”, etc. as I am. When was life ever certain? My life is more certain now than it ever has been. I am more in control of my own fate than I ever have been. Divorced, kids grown, parents and siblings deceased, retired. Things are written in stone more than ever before in my life. I am certain. Trying times? Let me tell you about trying times! No, you don’t really want to know. But trust me, these aren’t trying times. I’ve seen trying times, and I know some of you have, too.
Rant over. Deep breaths. It’s all good.
I think I'm agreeing with you here, mostly, but not exactly: If the worst thing about my day is people overusing trite conventional gloom-oriented phrases that don't apply in a literal way to me personally, I'm going to say it's generally been a pretty good day.
Compared to, y'know, actual trying times like widowhood, cancer diagnosis, etc., in my past; or to unemployment, financial strain, illnesses, pending eviction, and various kinds of current trauma in other peoples' present.
Right now, I'm a lot more tired of . . . well, no, that would be political. But not in the way the general reader may assume.
So true. I’m gonna put on a smile and thank God it’s not “trying times”.7 -
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terrmadden wrote: »I say “it’s a COVID cough”
I tell them “yes I’m exposed to COVID daily, I work in a hospital laboratory”
And I rolled my eyes when the hospital front desk temperature was 95.2 one morning. I mean, that’s pretty much dead. But that’s what they wrote on my wrist band and sent me inside.
I’m a hardened, heartless hospital worker who’s been in the biz 33 years. I need to quit or retire, but need to live somewhere and eat a little.
I don't think the contactless scanners are very accurate, but 95.2 is far from "pretty much dead." I've used different rectal thermometers (about as accurate as possible) with results in the 95's and 96's frequently.3 -
An area where I used to live has tripled their all-time cases now in the last 10 days. Even yet, some people still suggest nothing should close down again and schools should return as usual. I'm currently in a discussion with someone on social media (I don't know why I even try) with someone who tested positive recently and argues that gyms should stay open and they are safe because "healthy people kick covid." After I pointed out several cases of healthy marathon runners who became very ill or died due to Covid, the response was that distance runners are unhealthy. After she turned it into a sprinting vs. distance running debate, she explained that she sanitizes equipment as she is going to the gym so it isn't possible that she spread it to anyone while she was there (after testing positive, even though she really should just stay home, right?). Ugh... this is why the cases are increasing so fast.13
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slimgirljo15 wrote: »ExistingFish wrote: »
Coughs do so much for our bodies, and there are so many reasons to cough. I hate that coughs have been stigmatized.
I've noticed at work that we all, myself included, explain our coughs now. Before we just coughed but now it's "something went down the wrong way", "just my allergies again", "tickle in my throat".
I've never been so afraid to cough, ya get the stink eye from everyone😬
Yeah, a friend and I were just talking about this, after I swallowed water the wrong way on a call and had to cough. I know from being a long-time symphony-goer that trying not to cough can make it worse too.6 -
corinasue1143 wrote: »Is anyone else as tired of hearing “in these uncertain times”, “in these trying times”, etc. as I am. When was life ever certain? My life is more certain now than it ever has been. I am more in control of my own fate than I ever have been. Divorced, kids grown, parents and siblings deceased, retired. Things are written in stone more than ever before in my life. I am certain. Trying times? Let me tell you about trying times! No, you don’t really want to know. But trust me, these aren’t trying times. I’ve seen trying times, and I know some of you have, too.
Rant over. Deep breaths. It’s all good.
Honestly, things aren't the worst for me then they've ever been. I suspect I'll get paid less this year than the last few (bonus is important and related to overall income of my firm which is doing fine so far but coronavirus has made things much more risky), but I don't have job insecurity and can mostly work at home (I have to go to work at least once a week but it is no biggie). I hate the isolation of this but have lots of phone and Zoom contact even outside of work. I'm a lucky person with a (quite small, Chicago city limits) yard and the ability to use it, plus a car, so have less concern about movement than some. I'm also not young. But still this year really does feel, for the country as a whole, the most scary, uncertain, and depressing times I recall. This year feels largely wasted (I'm sad about the things I planned to do and have not been able to), and more importantly, if one thinks of the events to date, it's like a highlight of other bad years: we started with an Iran crisis (1979 -- granted, not that bad), moved to impeachment (1973/1998), and then moved on to (yay!) this stupid, endless virus (1918-19), and then we get endless protests and some riots and (where I live) a spike in violent crime (1968, maybe early '90s), and plus super polarization as a country that spills over into the whole virus thing (masks are evil, the virus is a fake, cancel culture, so on -- not taking a political position but referencing stuff) (I dunno, maybe 1968 again). Plus my general concern about the economy in general, even though I am fine and of course people on pensions or SocSec are fine -- this is scary (reference 2008, hopefully not 1929). This genuinely does seem like the worst or most uncertain time I've ever lived though, and I do have recollections back to the Carter/Ford election to some degree and the later '70s for sure, and definitely the '80s (I recall as my first political memory (granted, when really little) my dad telling me the president (Nixon) resigned).10 -
autumnblade75 wrote: »I am not prepared, now, for the new work guidelines.
As of today, we are required to do a Prework Health Check. Well, I woke up with a headache, so the system told me to stay home and I can't come back until I'm cleared by my health care provider. So I called Teladoc. Who are not authorized (nobody is) to clear me for Covid. Over a headache. No fever, no cough, no nothing, but a headache.
Of course, calling the Teladoc managed to trigger an anxiety attack. So that was lovely.
I'm not sure how to resolve this.
I'm locked out of performing the next Prework Health Check until I contact a manager. I have no idea who is actually a manager, vs a supervisor, and I definitely don't have any contact information. I texted my supervisor, but like he already told me, all he got was the same flyer they handed me at the door.
I guess I just walk in with the Teladoc diagnosis of "headache" printed out as proof that I sought care, and hope for the best. Super system we got here, keeping everyone safe. I half hope they fire me. Maybe I should try harder.
This kind of system encourages people to lie. It's like at my husband's work. The first day they implemented screening like this, he was asked, "have you come in contact with a covid positive person?" He answered, "I don't know. I don't think so. How would I know that?" The employee screening him sent him home and told him he was supposed to say "no" definitively. Sent the next guy home because of his allergies. Asked if he had a cough. The guy said he just had the usual allergy cough he had every morning of his life. Nothing new or any other symptoms. He got sent home. Half the staff was sent home that first day. Managers had to call everybody back in and "coach" them how to respond to the screening questions. Everybody basically learned to lie after that. The coworker with the frequent migraines straight up lies to the screener's face multiple times per week. If this becomes a habit, actual sick people might start lying. Maybe they need more than just strict yes/no questions as your ticket into work.
Right now, I'm waiting out the clock. I have followed the next steps, as outlined by the app. My manager is now required to reset the app so I can pre-screen for work. I am allowed/required to do this "no later than one hour before scheduled start time" which is 2:40am today. The app is not yet reset, and I don't expect them to reset it. I have already started looking for a new job. This is a stupid game that brings me no joy, and I don't know why I'm playing it.17 -
autumnblade75 wrote: »autumnblade75 wrote: »I am not prepared, now, for the new work guidelines.
As of today, we are required to do a Prework Health Check. Well, I woke up with a headache, so the system told me to stay home and I can't come back until I'm cleared by my health care provider. So I called Teladoc. Who are not authorized (nobody is) to clear me for Covid. Over a headache. No fever, no cough, no nothing, but a headache.
Of course, calling the Teladoc managed to trigger an anxiety attack. So that was lovely.
I'm not sure how to resolve this.
I'm locked out of performing the next Prework Health Check until I contact a manager. I have no idea who is actually a manager, vs a supervisor, and I definitely don't have any contact information. I texted my supervisor, but like he already told me, all he got was the same flyer they handed me at the door.
I guess I just walk in with the Teladoc diagnosis of "headache" printed out as proof that I sought care, and hope for the best. Super system we got here, keeping everyone safe. I half hope they fire me. Maybe I should try harder.
This kind of system encourages people to lie. It's like at my husband's work. The first day they implemented screening like this, he was asked, "have you come in contact with a covid positive person?" He answered, "I don't know. I don't think so. How would I know that?" The employee screening him sent him home and told him he was supposed to say "no" definitively. Sent the next guy home because of his allergies. Asked if he had a cough. The guy said he just had the usual allergy cough he had every morning of his life. Nothing new or any other symptoms. He got sent home. Half the staff was sent home that first day. Managers had to call everybody back in and "coach" them how to respond to the screening questions. Everybody basically learned to lie after that. The coworker with the frequent migraines straight up lies to the screener's face multiple times per week. If this becomes a habit, actual sick people might start lying. Maybe they need more than just strict yes/no questions as your ticket into work.
Right now, I'm waiting out the clock. I have followed the next steps, as outlined by the app. My manager is now required to reset the app so I can pre-screen for work. I am allowed/required to do this "no later than one hour before scheduled start time" which is 2:40am today. The app is not yet reset, and I don't expect them to reset it. I have already started looking for a new job. This is a stupid game that brings me no joy, and I don't know why I'm playing it.
I'm so sorry to hear you are dealing with this. I hope things turn out better than you are thinking right now. I guess they just don't know what they are doing. Hugs.4 -
autumnblade75 wrote: »I am not prepared, now, for the new work guidelines.
As of today, we are required to do a Prework Health Check. Well, I woke up with a headache, so the system told me to stay home and I can't come back until I'm cleared by my health care provider. So I called Teladoc. Who are not authorized (nobody is) to clear me for Covid. Over a headache. No fever, no cough, no nothing, but a headache.
Of course, calling the Teladoc managed to trigger an anxiety attack. So that was lovely.
I'm not sure how to resolve this.
I'm locked out of performing the next Prework Health Check until I contact a manager. I have no idea who is actually a manager, vs a supervisor, and I definitely don't have any contact information. I texted my supervisor, but like he already told me, all he got was the same flyer they handed me at the door.
I guess I just walk in with the Teladoc diagnosis of "headache" printed out as proof that I sought care, and hope for the best. Super system we got here, keeping everyone safe. I half hope they fire me. Maybe I should try harder.
This kind of system encourages people to lie. It's like at my husband's work. The first day they implemented screening like this, he was asked, "have you come in contact with a covid positive person?" He answered, "I don't know. I don't think so. How would I know that?" The employee screening him sent him home and told him he was supposed to say "no" definitively. Sent the next guy home because of his allergies. Asked if he had a cough. The guy said he just had the usual allergy cough he had every morning of his life. Nothing new or any other symptoms. He got sent home. Half the staff was sent home that first day. Managers had to call everybody back in and "coach" them how to respond to the screening questions. Everybody basically learned to lie after that. The coworker with the frequent migraines straight up lies to the screener's face multiple times per week. If this becomes a habit, actual sick people might start lying. Maybe they need more than just strict yes/no questions as your ticket into work.
What would really help is an abundance of rapid-result tests and robust contact tracing, rather than relying on self-assessment of symptoms that, even in the best case scenario of expert self-assessment and utter honesty, will only catch cases after you've been at the height of virus-shedding for a day or two, because unlike the flu, individuals infected with COVID-19 are most infectious before they are symptomatic.9 -
terrmadden wrote: »I say “it’s a COVID cough”
I tell them “yes I’m exposed to COVID daily, I work in a hospital laboratory”
And I rolled my eyes when the hospital front desk temperature was 95.2 one morning. I mean, that’s pretty much dead. But that’s what they wrote on my wrist band and sent me inside.
I was in hospital recently and the nurse took my temperature with two different methods, both totally different results. Not good really for a hospital.
If we're talking sublingual versus axial versus rectal versus forehead versus tympanic, the results are supposed to be different, because normal temperatures are different in different points on your body.9 -
This whole divisive thing between polarized politics is just interfering with progress and, quite literally, killing people.
The whole recent thing about the "Frontline Docs" was both terrifying and hysterical at the same time. Add to it, you have a Yale Epidemiologist saying that Z-Pak, Hydroxychloroquine and Zinc (all together) are the answer to saving lives. Mind you, not a cure, but an effective therapy to keep the virus from spreading. I'm not a scientist, so if something I say is inaccurate, I apologize in advance. But what the Yale doc is saying is that Hydroxychloroquine is a zinc ionophore -- which means, in very simple terms, that the hydroxychloroquine simply opens up the cells enough where zinc can pass through the cellular membrane. So it's not really the hydroxychloroquine, it's the zinc that's the real secret sauce. Well, between all this "I was right...", "he wasn't right" and "you don't need to wear a mask" crazy talk, very few are talking about other, safer (by nature) zinc ionophores. Namely, ECGC (green tea extract) and Quercetin (a flavonoid). So hypothetically, if Hydroxychloroquine and Zinc works to stop the virus, so should Quercetin and Zinc, without the very dangerous side affects that Hydroxychloroquine has.
There is actually a study going on in Saudi Arabia looking at Quercetin, Vitamin D, Vitamin C and Zinc.
All of this going on with two countries (Brazil and the US) where their leaders are touting Hydroxychloroquine and these two countries lead the world in deaths.
What really chaps my rear is that Fauci and his family are getting death threats because, allegedly, he's withholding the "cure" from people. The Brazilian study on Hydroxychloroquine -- another country where their leader is very high on it, BTW -- was halted due to heart attacks, permanent heart changes, kidney and retina damage that is permanent. But things like this are inconvenient facts to those pushing conspiracy theory agendas.
Furthermore, the entire theory that is being pushed relies on early testing and results within days. We can't even get testing right as a country. Another irony is that these scientists are looking at polyphenols/flavonoids now as a possible solution/treatment. Wow, that's a novel idea! NOT. The Chinese have many studies on this that are now four and six months old. Some Chinese herbs were found to be around 90% effective as well. They were also powerful polyphenols known to be Zinc Ionophores. Wonder how all the conspiracy theorists (the ones I know also are VERY vocal with their Chinese racism) would react when they knew that most of what they are touting had the ideas originate in Far Eastern ancient medicine??
Just observations. I feel like Chief at times from "One Flew over the Cuckoos Nest", watching all the crazy people around me trying not to say anything, being one of the few sane people. Folks are completely off the flippin' rails right now.
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T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »An area where I used to live has tripled their all-time cases now in the last 10 days. Even yet, some people still suggest nothing should close down again and schools should return as usual. I'm currently in a discussion with someone on social media (I don't know why I even try) with someone who tested positive recently and argues that gyms should stay open and they are safe because "healthy people kick covid." After I pointed out several cases of healthy marathon runners who became very ill or died due to Covid, the response was that distance runners are unhealthy. After she turned it into a sprinting vs. distance running debate, she explained that she sanitizes equipment as she is going to the gym so it isn't possible that she spread it to anyone while she was there (after testing positive, even though she really should just stay home, right?). Ugh... this is why the cases are increasing so fast.
Ummm, ugh. Reading this made me really happy to live in a country where appointed contagious disease doctors can order people to quarantine as an enforceable official ruling. I don’t know if anybody has tried to defy them, but from what I’ve understood you could be put under surveillance if you aren’t following the order at home.
On the upside for people put in official quarantine, there’s an extra form of social security you get paid during official quarantine if you can’t work from home. The amount matches what you would get paid as salary, so there’s no argument about income either.5 -
corinasue1143 wrote: »Is anyone else as tired of hearing “in these uncertain times”, “in these trying times”, etc. as I am. When was life ever certain? My life is more certain now than it ever has been. I am more in control of my own fate than I ever have been. Divorced, kids grown, parents and siblings deceased, retired. Things are written in stone more than ever before in my life. I am certain. Trying times? Let me tell you about trying times! No, you don’t really want to know. But trust me, these aren’t trying times. I’ve seen trying times, and I know some of you have, too.
Rant over. Deep breaths. It’s all good.
Glad you are doing fine but yes for some these are very trying times. Some people have lost loved ones, their jobs, can't visit dying loved ones, uncertainty over kids schooling etc all in 3-4 months.
Glad things are fine in your bubble but not everyone is in the same boat.13
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