Are carbs the enemy?
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The recommended balances are:
45–65% of calories from carbs
20–35% of calories from fats
10–35% of calories from proteins.
If you log your food, mfp will calculate the percentages for you (the pie chart at the bottom of your daily food diary) but will only tell you if you ahve gone over, not if you are under. It's useful to know that 1g of carbs or protein = 4 cals, whilst 1g of fat = 9 cals.
Some helpful points to consider when deciding macros/diet planning are on the UK's NHS website: https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/healthy-weight/why-we-need-to-eat-carbs/
and here: https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/best-macronutrient-ratio#diet-quality.
Everyone is different, and you need to work out what is best for you. I am someone who generally feels better with higher carbs but I love cheese and if I don't think about this a bit my diet ends up 40% fats, 40% carbs and 20% protein. Calories are what matter for weight loss, so I lost weight fine on that balance; I just started to feel deenergised. However, if all my carbs come from bread I feel deenergised too, so I try to mix them up.
Good luck!
I don't agree with this analysis. It's simplistic. Brocolli is carbs and a pizza is carbs and fat, take the cheese out and carbs plus maybe protein. Brocolli is super healthy and a pizza isn't.
Is that good for weight loss or healthy. No.
So for me the answer is, if you are trying to lose weight ( a.k.a. more than 10 pounds ) you should eliminate cereals ( rice, bread, pasta, flour ) and sugar.
And yes, you can blast carbs on veggies, which is a whole different story.
Anyhow just how I see it.
Thanks
Roberto.2 -
Lastchancetochange wrote: »The recommended balances are:
45–65% of calories from carbs
20–35% of calories from fats
10–35% of calories from proteins.
If you log your food, mfp will calculate the percentages for you (the pie chart at the bottom of your daily food diary) but will only tell you if you ahve gone over, not if you are under. It's useful to know that 1g of carbs or protein = 4 cals, whilst 1g of fat = 9 cals.
Some helpful points to consider when deciding macros/diet planning are on the UK's NHS website: https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/healthy-weight/why-we-need-to-eat-carbs/
and here: https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/best-macronutrient-ratio#diet-quality.
Everyone is different, and you need to work out what is best for you. I am someone who generally feels better with higher carbs but I love cheese and if I don't think about this a bit my diet ends up 40% fats, 40% carbs and 20% protein. Calories are what matter for weight loss, so I lost weight fine on that balance; I just started to feel deenergised. However, if all my carbs come from bread I feel deenergised too, so I try to mix them up.
Good luck!
I don't agree with this analysis. It's simplistic. Brocolli is carbs and a pizza is carbs and fat, take the cheese out and carbs plus maybe protein. Brocolli is super healthy and a pizza isn't.
Is that good for weight loss or healthy. No.
So for me the answer is, if you are trying to lose weight ( a.k.a. more than 10 pounds ) you should eliminate cereals ( rice, bread, pasta, flour ) and sugar.
And yes, you can blast carbs on veggies, which is a whole different story.
Anyhow just how I see it.
Thanks
Roberto.
There is NO REASON at all to eliminate any food. TO just needs to stay in a calorie deficit. How that's done is up to them. Some people think that a pizza is far too high in calories and leaves too little calories for other food, and hence they end up hungry. Others are fine with that. Again others eat a slice of pizza and lots of other things next to it.
And the same holds true for rice, bread, pasta, etc... There's no reason at all to eliminate them.11 -
Lastchancetochange wrote: »The recommended balances are:
45–65% of calories from carbs
20–35% of calories from fats
10–35% of calories from proteins.
If you log your food, mfp will calculate the percentages for you (the pie chart at the bottom of your daily food diary) but will only tell you if you ahve gone over, not if you are under. It's useful to know that 1g of carbs or protein = 4 cals, whilst 1g of fat = 9 cals.
Some helpful points to consider when deciding macros/diet planning are on the UK's NHS website: https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/healthy-weight/why-we-need-to-eat-carbs/
and here: https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/best-macronutrient-ratio#diet-quality.
Everyone is different, and you need to work out what is best for you. I am someone who generally feels better with higher carbs but I love cheese and if I don't think about this a bit my diet ends up 40% fats, 40% carbs and 20% protein. Calories are what matter for weight loss, so I lost weight fine on that balance; I just started to feel deenergised. However, if all my carbs come from bread I feel deenergised too, so I try to mix them up.
Good luck!
I don't agree with this analysis. It's simplistic. Brocolli is carbs and a pizza is carbs and fat, take the cheese out and carbs plus maybe protein. Brocolli is super healthy and a pizza isn't.
Is that good for weight loss or healthy. No.
So for me the answer is, if you are trying to lose weight ( a.k.a. more than 10 pounds ) you should eliminate cereals ( rice, bread, pasta, flour ) and sugar.
And yes, you can blast carbs on veggies, which is a whole different story.
Anyhow just how I see it.
Thanks
Roberto.
I've lost 50 lbs (so far) eating bread and/or pasta and/or rice daily and sweet treats every few days. On average between 200 and 250 grams of carbs a day.
Didn't stop my weight loss in the slightest.13 -
Lastchancetochange wrote: »The recommended balances are:
45–65% of calories from carbs
20–35% of calories from fats
10–35% of calories from proteins.
If you log your food, mfp will calculate the percentages for you (the pie chart at the bottom of your daily food diary) but will only tell you if you ahve gone over, not if you are under. It's useful to know that 1g of carbs or protein = 4 cals, whilst 1g of fat = 9 cals.
Some helpful points to consider when deciding macros/diet planning are on the UK's NHS website: https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/healthy-weight/why-we-need-to-eat-carbs/
and here: https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/best-macronutrient-ratio#diet-quality.
Everyone is different, and you need to work out what is best for you. I am someone who generally feels better with higher carbs but I love cheese and if I don't think about this a bit my diet ends up 40% fats, 40% carbs and 20% protein. Calories are what matter for weight loss, so I lost weight fine on that balance; I just started to feel deenergised. However, if all my carbs come from bread I feel deenergised too, so I try to mix them up.
Good luck!
I don't agree with this analysis. It's simplistic. Brocolli is carbs and a pizza is carbs and fat, take the cheese out and carbs plus maybe protein. Brocolli is super healthy and a pizza isn't.
Is that good for weight loss or healthy. No.
So for me the answer is, if you are trying to lose weight ( a.k.a. more than 10 pounds ) you should eliminate cereals ( rice, bread, pasta, flour ) and sugar.
And yes, you can blast carbs on veggies, which is a whole different story.
Anyhow just how I see it.
Thanks
Roberto.
Wait, what?
Broccoli is a food that has carbohydrates and micronutrients. Pizza is a food that has carbohydrates, fat, protein, and some micronutrients. Yes, they're different in terms of calories and specific nutrients, but it's not like pizza is going to cancel out a calorie deficit or have anti-nutrient propoerties.
You don't have to eliminate grains or sugar to lose weight, unless you find it makes it easier for you to maintain a calorie deficit.
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I've lost 30lbs in 6 weeks and I've had kfc and pizza still. I've counted the calories in them using a mix of the app and the nutritional info from menus etc and maintained a deficit even on the junk days. So I definitely agree with it doesn't matter where your calories come from as long as its something you are happy with and keeps you full and satisfied while still coming in around your daily target.8
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Lastchancetochange wrote: »The recommended balances are:
45–65% of calories from carbs
20–35% of calories from fats
10–35% of calories from proteins.
If you log your food, mfp will calculate the percentages for you (the pie chart at the bottom of your daily food diary) but will only tell you if you ahve gone over, not if you are under. It's useful to know that 1g of carbs or protein = 4 cals, whilst 1g of fat = 9 cals.
Some helpful points to consider when deciding macros/diet planning are on the UK's NHS website: https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/healthy-weight/why-we-need-to-eat-carbs/
and here: https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/best-macronutrient-ratio#diet-quality.
Everyone is different, and you need to work out what is best for you. I am someone who generally feels better with higher carbs but I love cheese and if I don't think about this a bit my diet ends up 40% fats, 40% carbs and 20% protein. Calories are what matter for weight loss, so I lost weight fine on that balance; I just started to feel deenergised. However, if all my carbs come from bread I feel deenergised too, so I try to mix them up.
Good luck!
I don't agree with this analysis. It's simplistic. Brocolli is carbs and a pizza is carbs and fat, take the cheese out and carbs plus maybe protein. Brocolli is super healthy and a pizza isn't.
Is that good for weight loss or healthy. No.
So for me the answer is, if you are trying to lose weight ( a.k.a. more than 10 pounds ) you should eliminate cereals ( rice, bread, pasta, flour ) and sugar.
And yes, you can blast carbs on veggies, which is a whole different story.
Anyhow just how I see it.
Thanks
Roberto.
If this works for you, that's great. I have lost 50+ pounds since mid April and I have had pizza, spaghetti, and different kinds of fast food (chicken, burgers, Chinese, etc.) . I eat rice/bread/potatoes/chocolate/Cheerios/etc. on a daily basis and it has not affected my progress in way.9 -
Carbs are only bad if your diet is consistently based on that food group. If you eat balanced meals with healthy fats, proteins, and fiber the overall glycemic load will not cause a quick spike in blood sugar and insulin responses. Refined carbs such as pastries or sugary drinks are what you should be worried about.
But what if I want quick insulin responses ? with it been the most anti catabolic hormone in the human body?
May come in handy at some point4 -
Lastchancetochange wrote: »The recommended balances are:
45–65% of calories from carbs
20–35% of calories from fats
10–35% of calories from proteins.
If you log your food, mfp will calculate the percentages for you (the pie chart at the bottom of your daily food diary) but will only tell you if you ahve gone over, not if you are under. It's useful to know that 1g of carbs or protein = 4 cals, whilst 1g of fat = 9 cals.
Some helpful points to consider when deciding macros/diet planning are on the UK's NHS website: https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/healthy-weight/why-we-need-to-eat-carbs/
and here: https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/best-macronutrient-ratio#diet-quality.
Everyone is different, and you need to work out what is best for you. I am someone who generally feels better with higher carbs but I love cheese and if I don't think about this a bit my diet ends up 40% fats, 40% carbs and 20% protein. Calories are what matter for weight loss, so I lost weight fine on that balance; I just started to feel deenergised. However, if all my carbs come from bread I feel deenergised too, so I try to mix them up.
Good luck!
I don't agree with this analysis. It's simplistic. Brocolli is carbs and a pizza is carbs and fat, take the cheese out and carbs plus maybe protein. Brocolli is super healthy and a pizza isn't.
Is that good for weight loss or healthy. No.
So for me the answer is, if you are trying to lose weight ( a.k.a. more than 10 pounds ) you should eliminate cereals ( rice, bread, pasta, flour ) and sugar.
And yes, you can blast carbs on veggies, which is a whole different story.
Anyhow just how I see it.
Thanks
Roberto.
This is short sighted though. Losing weight is just step one. Attempting to eat "healthy" (whatever your definition) while losing weight will be meaningless when you get to goal weight unless you make some of those changes permanent.
Never eating pizza or pasta again? No thanks. Learning to have a moderate portion of pizza with a salad on the side is better.
Large populations eat rice and pasta, and many are thin. Eliminating foods from your diet short term is not the answer.6 -
for me carbs are the devil. When I started eating 100 gr or less of carbs, my weight came off and I am not as hungry.4
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For me, certain carbs, like donuts and chips, are trigger foods cause me to binge eat. I cannot hope to lose weight unless I learn to avoid those foods. I can manage carbs better when they are balanced with proteins and fats.5
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Lastchancetochange wrote: »The recommended balances are:
45–65% of calories from carbs
20–35% of calories from fats
10–35% of calories from proteins.
If you log your food, mfp will calculate the percentages for you (the pie chart at the bottom of your daily food diary) but will only tell you if you ahve gone over, not if you are under. It's useful to know that 1g of carbs or protein = 4 cals, whilst 1g of fat = 9 cals.
Some helpful points to consider when deciding macros/diet planning are on the UK's NHS website: https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/healthy-weight/why-we-need-to-eat-carbs/
and here: https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/best-macronutrient-ratio#diet-quality.
Everyone is different, and you need to work out what is best for you. I am someone who generally feels better with higher carbs but I love cheese and if I don't think about this a bit my diet ends up 40% fats, 40% carbs and 20% protein. Calories are what matter for weight loss, so I lost weight fine on that balance; I just started to feel deenergised. However, if all my carbs come from bread I feel deenergised too, so I try to mix them up.
Good luck!
I don't agree with this analysis. It's simplistic. Brocolli is carbs and a pizza is carbs and fat, take the cheese out and carbs plus maybe protein. Brocolli is super healthy and a pizza isn't.
Is that good for weight loss or healthy. No.
So for me the answer is, if you are trying to lose weight ( a.k.a. more than 10 pounds ) you should eliminate cereals ( rice, bread, pasta, flour ) and sugar.
And yes, you can blast carbs on veggies, which is a whole different story.
Anyhow just how I see it.
Thanks
Roberto.
What!!!!! Pizza is bad for you? Whatever will I eat now on Friday and Saturday nights.............broccoli, I guess
just gotta be healthy.6 -
For me, certain carbs, like donuts and chips, are trigger foods cause me to binge eat. I cannot hope to lose weight unless I learn to avoid those foods. I can manage carbs better when they are balanced with proteins and fats.
Donuts and chips aren't really "carbs." They are foods that are about half carbs and half fat.
Foods that are mostly just carbs would include most fruit and a plain potato or plain sweet potato, among other things.9 -
For me, certain carbs, like donuts and chips, are trigger foods cause me to binge eat. I cannot hope to lose weight unless I learn to avoid those foods. I can manage carbs better when they are balanced with proteins and fats.
I would state that those "trigger" foods are not just carbs, but carbs and fats in a calorie dense container. A chip without added oil is a dehydrated potato..... do they trigger you?
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Baked chips. Yuck, I need a bucket. You're so smart.2
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Donuts and chips aren't really "carbs." They are foods that are about half carbs and half fat.
Foods that are mostly just carbs would include most fruit and a plain potato or plain sweet potato, among other things.
For the purpose of avoiding an insulin spike, it is largely irrelevant whether some foods contain only carbs or both carbs and fat. Dietary carbohydrates will convert immediately into glucose and that will trigger an insulin response, which will eventually trigger fat storage, whether taken with dietary fat or not.
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mariomicro wrote: »Donuts and chips aren't really "carbs." They are foods that are about half carbs and half fat.
Foods that are mostly just carbs would include most fruit and a plain potato or plain sweet potato, among other things.
For the purpose of avoiding an insulin spike, it is largely irrelevant whether some foods contain only carbs or both carbs and fat. Dietary carbohydrates will convert immediately into glucose and that will trigger an insulin response, which will eventually trigger fat storage, whether taken with dietary fat or not.
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Carbs are only bad if your diet is consistently based on that food group. If you eat balanced meals with healthy fats, proteins, and fiber the overall glycemic load will not cause a quick spike in blood sugar and insulin responses. Refined carbs such as pastries or sugary drinks are what you should be worried about.
But what if I want quick insulin responses ? with it been the most anti catabolic hormone in the human body?
May come in handy at some point
Yup I frequently spike it on purpose. I'm still waiting for these so called fat gains that come along with it though.6 -
mariomicro wrote: »Donuts and chips aren't really "carbs." They are foods that are about half carbs and half fat.
Foods that are mostly just carbs would include most fruit and a plain potato or plain sweet potato, among other things.
For the purpose of avoiding an insulin spike, it is largely irrelevant whether some foods contain only carbs or both carbs and fat. Dietary carbohydrates will convert immediately into glucose and that will trigger an insulin response, which will eventually trigger fat storage, whether taken with dietary fat or not.
And yet, the fact that you never want to discuss is that there can be no NET fat gain (insulin spikes or not) as long as the person is eating in a deficit. The body is constantly storing and breaking down fat throughout the day regardless of the mix of food that the person is eating.11 -
And yet, the fact that you never want to discuss is that there can be no NET fat gain (insulin spikes or not) as long as the person is eating in a deficit. The body is constantly storing and breaking down fat throughout the day regardless of the mix of food that the person is eating.
It is hard to be "eating in a deficit" if you are constantly binging on high carb, high fat foods.
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