Coronavirus prep
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For what it's worth, Pentatonix just posted pictures on FB from the parade, and they and everyone randomly in the background are wearing masks, so I guess it was just for their parade tv appearances that masks were removed.
Completely off topic, but if you're feeling kind of empty and unholidayish right now, hop over to the you tubes and find Pentatonix Amazing Grace video. It wakes the ol' human emotions right up
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Back to shopping, I've had no issues getting paper products, but 2 stores in a row failed to have butternut squash. These were both delivery, so I wondered if the shopper just didn't find it, but perhaps there is a Thanksgiving-related run on it. I got kabocha as a substitute from the second place, so that's just as good for my purposes anyway.
I was at my local apple farm last week and they had an unbelievable amount of butternut squash. Mounds and mounds. Wish I'd taken a picture. It grows well here in MA. One year Mom got 80 squashes out of 4 plants. Probably not an option for your garden space though - it needs a LOT of room.2 -
My county went to purple tier (Californina) and that meant closing of indoor gyms. We aren't complying. Becausse OUTDOOR gyms can be done in a tent with no ventilation and no requirement of cleaning the equipment. In my gym, all members HAVE to wear masks OVER NOSE AND MOUTH, all equipment has to be wiped down with disinfectant wipe after use including weights, we temp check at the door, staff goes and cleans equipment every hour, our capacity is only at 10% and we have fans and ac and ventilation going on. We also spray and industrial strength microban on our equipment everynight that gets activated when it's wiped down. And we're certified by Stonewright Biotech every 2 weeks. They measure virus, bacteria, mold, fungus at our facility and give it a rating. Anything under 100 is very clean. Hospitals usually rate at 50. Our last 2 checks were at 28.
We are in litigation with the state which is why although we've been told to shut down, we haven't because we're cleaner and adhere to safety policies better than any essential operation out there.
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kshama2001 wrote: »Back to shopping, I've had no issues getting paper products, but 2 stores in a row failed to have butternut squash. These were both delivery, so I wondered if the shopper just didn't find it, but perhaps there is a Thanksgiving-related run on it. I got kabocha as a substitute from the second place, so that's just as good for my purposes anyway.
I was at my local apple farm last week and they had an unbelievable amount of butternut squash. Mounds and mounds. Wish I'd taken a picture. It grows well here in MA. One year Mom got 80 squashes out of 4 plants. Probably not an option for your garden space though - it needs a LOT of room.
Yeah, I'd love to plant winter squash, but I have a bitty back yard.0 -
MikePfirrman wrote: »The other one was SCOTUS ruling in a 5-4 decision that NY State could not limit the number of people gathering in churches.
Just to clarify a bit, this blocks the NY executive order temporarily, as the case works its way up to the 2nd Cir and likely the SC again. And the issue is lack of neutrality: "The court explained that Cuomo’s order does not appear to be neutral, but instead “singles out houses of worship for especially harsh treatment.” For example, although a synagogue or a church in a red zone is limited to 10 people at a service, there are no limits on how many people a nearby “essential” business – which can include acupuncture or a camp ground – can admit."
It also suggests less restrictive rules, like a number based on the size of the church/synagogue building, would be okay.
That means the issues with the EO from the SC's perspective seem to be fixable, if Cuomo wants to fix it.
Good analysis, from which I took the quote: https://www.scotusblog.com/2020/11/justices-lift-new-yorks-covid-related-attendance-limits-on-worship-services/#more-297905
Thanks for that. Makes me feel a bit better. My worry is that "megachurches" will beging packing them in during the Holiday season, at the worst possible time.
I'm having a nice time with family, but found out this week that two friends battling cancer are both positive and are both symptomatic. Very sobering.15 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »Just turned on the TV and the NY Macy's Thanksgiving day parade is on. Only saw one float before going to ad and writing this. But, for that float with handlers walking shoulder to shoulder and only a few feet apart, no one had on a mask. How is this permitted? Don't say testing, because in any other situation, testing would not be deemed adaquate. So tired of the do as I say........
From what I understand... there are no handlers this year... all the floats are being driven by one person in a car. No one is there in a crowd at all.
ETA- https://www.macys.com/social/parade/
@chef_barbell That's good news. I have no idea what was on the TV then. I was annoyed so I turned it off.1 -
28 is impressive but hospital customes by default tend to be disease carriers.0
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For what it's worth, Pentatonix just posted pictures on FB from the parade, and they and everyone randomly in the background are wearing masks, so I guess it was just for their parade tv appearances that masks were removed.
Completely off topic, but if you're feeling kind of empty and unholidayish right now, hop over to the you tubes and find Pentatonix Amazing Grace video. It wakes the ol' human emotions right up
@kimny It is sounding like I saw some other odd broadcast. Do they do parade re-runs? Anyhow, apologies if I made a false claim. Would not be my intent. I was so irritated I turned it off.3 -
Have a happy and safe Thanksgiving everyone!!
How to Observe Thanksgiving
Author Unknown
Count your blessings instead of your crosses;
Count your gains instead of your losses.
Count your joys instead of your woes;
Count your friends instead of your foes.
Count your smiles instead of your tears;
Count your courage instead of your fears.
Count your full years instead of your lean;
Count your kind deeds instead of your mean.
Count your health instead of your wealth;
Count on God instead of yourself.
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New topic - who is going black friday shopping after quarantining for Thanksgiving? :P
Obviously, not me. I will be venturing into the very empty grocery store for like five key items.
I guess this was a topic in this morning's paper. Hubby was chatting with me about it. I guess the article was noting how there are lots of instructions regarding limiting holiday visitations, but comparatively little chat about not swamping the stores tomorrow.4 -
New topic - who is going black friday shopping after quarantining for Thanksgiving? :P
Obviously, not me. I will be venturing into the very empty grocery store for like five key items.
I guess this was a topic in this morning's paper. Hubby was chatting with me about it. I guess the article was noting how there are lots of instructions regarding limiting holiday visitations, but comparatively little chat about not swamping the stores tomorrow.
No in person Black Friday shopping for me, but then, I probably haven't done that at all this century
I was at my Walmart Tuesday night for pecans (supermarket was out) and normally they are more prepped for Black Friday - start putting up foot traffic control thingys outside, etc., but there was nothing prestaged. Inside, I heard an announcement that the store would be closed all day Thursday which is unusual - lately they've been starting Black Friday late Thursday.
My Walmart is only a mile away - I might drive by tomorrow to see what's going on. (An actual drive-by; nothing would get me in the store.)
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MikePfirrman wrote: »I literally had someone on Facebook tell me that I'm the reason that we have to have these restrictions and that I'm selfish and generally terrible for suggesting that I'm not going to let fear of Covid change my Thanksgiving plans. Even when told about my sister he still doubled down insisting that the only acceptable way of celebrating is to not do so. This was a person I know in "real life" and had considered a friend for 2 decades now...the judgment is just mindboggling to me and I don't really understand why in general we can't just practice a little love and tolerance for each other.
I will also add that even just limiting to "immediate" family we are not a small group. My younger sister who lives out of town was supposed to come in (as she'd like to spend as much time as possible with our older sister as possible just in case) but my grandmother who lives with her hasn't been feeling well lately and doesn't want to drive 8 hours here and then 8 hours back on such a tight turn around. Hopefully they will be able to come for Christmas as the timeframe can be a little longer. But even without that group of 5 we are still 10+ people. I've never really understood the thought that 9 people would be ok but 11 would not. We should just ask people to use their best judgment and hope for the best, while keeping in mind that we are never guaranteed tomorrow.
That's terrible, the thing you report on Facebook. It's so easy for people to react in a kneejerk way on FB (or the like), in ways they might not in person, and it's hurtful. Every situation is different, and extreme reactions (especially when people don't know the nuances) are not a good reflex.
I don't do FB (I have a profile that hasn't been updated in years and almost never go on), but from what people I know have reported, the judgment comes from all sides and it's generally terrible, not specifically about covid, but covid is not helping. A friend has a close relative who is super anti-mask conspiracy theory and constantly judging others for being (as someone else noted) weak or "sheeple" to the point she sees him differently than she did before and had to mute it. I know many others who report similar stuff.
My own experience with this has been NextDoor, although currently I read it only for coyote and deer sighting posts and photos (I live in a city, and although we've always had coyotes they've taken over the site like crazy lately; the deer pretty much live in cemeteries). Ever since March, however, it's been endless fights and judgy-ness (on both sides) about masks to the extent that it was making me upset and paranoid. (I am pro mask, but I also find it difficult to run in a mask and tend to choose times when few are out and I can easily social distance, and I do actively change direction, cross the street, move into the street as needed, but apparently some have had such bad experiences with runners not doing that that they are inclined to judge all, or to proclaim such things are not sufficient. I still think the anti maskers and those being incredibly irresponsible (as with the huge house parties) are worse -- and yes, now I'm judging too -- but I get the feeling that one is being judged no matter what and that some are enjoying that, even.)
For whatever reason, NextDoor asked me to be a moderator locally. I have no idea why. I'm not particularly cool headed or reasonable at times. I have pleaded with people to be nicer. Not working. They are at each others throats. For every two level headed people, there are two extremes. Sad really.
One lady this morning was calling out a particular clerk at the local Post Office. I'm thinking, do we really need to do that?? Yes, someone at the post office should be wearing a mask, but to call them out on NextDoor by name? And when someone points out that NextDoor is about neighbors and after all the division we are still all neighbors, heaven forbid. Then the thread deteriorates to the extreme. I'm trying to figure out how not to be a moderator any longer.
I was a moderator someplace else for a few years. It was so much work. I'm glad I did it, as I was able to institute some rules that were very important to me, but I vowed I will never moderate for free again.5 -
I literally had someone on Facebook tell me that I'm the reason that we have to have these restrictions and that I'm selfish and generally terrible for suggesting that I'm not going to let fear of Covid change my Thanksgiving plans. Even when told about my sister he still doubled down insisting that the only acceptable way of celebrating is to not do so. This was a person I know in "real life" and had considered a friend for 2 decades now...the judgment is just mindboggling to me and I don't really understand why in general we can't just practice a little love and tolerance for each other.
I will also add that even just limiting to "immediate" family we are not a small group. My younger sister who lives out of town was supposed to come in (as she'd like to spend as much time as possible with our older sister as possible just in case) but my grandmother who lives with her hasn't been feeling well lately and doesn't want to drive 8 hours here and then 8 hours back on such a tight turn around. Hopefully they will be able to come for Christmas as the timeframe can be a little longer. But even without that group of 5 we are still 10+ people. I've never really understood the thought that 9 people would be ok but 11 would not. We should just ask people to use their best judgment and hope for the best, while keeping in mind that we are never guaranteed tomorrow.
Now you know that leading with "I'm not going to let fear of Covid change my Thanksgiving plans" provokes outrage, unsurprisingly, as it does come across as selfish without further context.
However, "My sister is dying and this may be her last Thanksgiving. We plan a small, safe celebration." is likely to evoke empathy and sympathy instead.11 -
kshama2001 wrote: »New topic - who is going black friday shopping after quarantining for Thanksgiving? :P
Obviously, not me. I will be venturing into the very empty grocery store for like five key items.
I guess this was a topic in this morning's paper. Hubby was chatting with me about it. I guess the article was noting how there are lots of instructions regarding limiting holiday visitations, but comparatively little chat about not swamping the stores tomorrow.
No in person Black Friday shopping for me, but then, I probably haven't done that at all this century
I was at my Walmart Tuesday night for pecans (supermarket was out) and normally they are more prepped for Black Friday - start putting up foot traffic control thingys outside, etc., but there was nothing prestaged. Inside, I heard an announcement that the store would be closed all day Thursday which is unusual - lately they've been starting Black Friday late Thursday.
My Walmart is only a mile away - I might drive by tomorrow to see what's going on. (An actual drive-by; nothing would get me in the store.)
When are you flying down to FL? This weekend?
@kshama2001 I have a walmart about a mile way as well. Maybe I'll do the same. Hey, maybe we are neighbors. :P
Glad your husband had gotten your pecans. I did strategic shopping all last week to limit exposure for family members today. On Monday, I did do an online curbside pickup for a few missing items. But that's it. Could not land a rapid COVID test for Tuesday.
I am very impressed with your memory. Yes, bad timing, we are traveling to Florida on Saturday to check on the repair of our property. I have masks, gloves, wipes, sanitizing gels, googles, seat covers. Hoping this will not be regretted.0 -
kshama2001 wrote: »New topic - who is going black friday shopping after quarantining for Thanksgiving? :P
Obviously, not me. I will be venturing into the very empty grocery store for like five key items.
I guess this was a topic in this morning's paper. Hubby was chatting with me about it. I guess the article was noting how there are lots of instructions regarding limiting holiday visitations, but comparatively little chat about not swamping the stores tomorrow.
No in person Black Friday shopping for me, but then, I probably haven't done that at all this century
I was at my Walmart Tuesday night for pecans (supermarket was out) and normally they are more prepped for Black Friday - start putting up foot traffic control thingys outside, etc., but there was nothing prestaged. Inside, I heard an announcement that the store would be closed all day Thursday which is unusual - lately they've been starting Black Friday late Thursday.
My Walmart is only a mile away - I might drive by tomorrow to see what's going on. (An actual drive-by; nothing would get me in the store.)
When are you flying down to FL? This weekend?
@kshama2001 I have a walmart about a mile way as well. Maybe I'll do the same. Hey, maybe we are neighbors. :P
Glad your husband had gotten your pecans. I did strategic shopping all last week to limit exposure for family members today. On Monday, I did do an online curbside pickup for a few missing items. But that's it. Could not land a rapid COVID test for Tuesday.
I am very impressed with your memory. Yes, bad timing, we are traveling to Florida on Saturday to check on the repair of our property. I have masks, gloves, wipes, sanitizing gels, googles, seat covers. Hoping this will not be regretted.
You stick in my memory because we are in the same state (and I used to live in FL,) but IIRC you are on the North Shore and I am South
Keep us posted on your trip. I'm wishing you the best and curious as to how well people adhere to regulations in the airports and airplanes in both states.3 -
I just want to say to you all, I hope you have a Happy Thanksgiving to those who celebrate it and also to those who don't I hope you all have many things to be Thankful for in your lives.
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kshama2001 wrote: »New topic - who is going black friday shopping after quarantining for Thanksgiving? :P
Obviously, not me. I will be venturing into the very empty grocery store for like five key items.
I guess this was a topic in this morning's paper. Hubby was chatting with me about it. I guess the article was noting how there are lots of instructions regarding limiting holiday visitations, but comparatively little chat about not swamping the stores tomorrow.
No in person Black Friday shopping for me, but then, I probably haven't done that at all this century
Heh, I don't believe I ever have. I have an intense hatred for crowded stores.
Definitely not this year, of course.
I may buy some stuff online, but because it's assumed no one is really doing anything for Thanksgiving I have work stuff I need to do, so it will be a diversion from that.2 -
New topic - who is going black friday shopping after quarantining for Thanksgiving? :P
Obviously, not me. I will be venturing into the very empty grocery store for like five key items.
I guess this was a topic in this morning's paper. Hubby was chatting with me about it. I guess the article was noting how there are lots of instructions regarding limiting holiday visitations, but comparatively little chat about not swamping the stores tomorrow.
Aren't stores limited in how many can go in? Ours are limited to 25% capacity.0 -
Happy Thanksgiving! Quick reminder to stay civil, avoid delving into politics, be respectful and no promoting conspiracy theories.19
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I have never done Black Friday in my life and don't intend to start this year. DH has some prescriptions waiting at Walmart, but they'll have to wait until Monday or Tuesday, because I am not going near the place this weekend.
It was interesting running around the neighborhood this afternoon. A lot fewer family gatherings than usual. More people out working on their yards, setting up Christmas decorations etc. Some small family groups out walking and enjoying the beautiful day. We have a lot of older people around us, and my sense was that many were spending the holiday alone. Our next door neighbor said she is so tired, she didn't want to see anybody this year, even family. One neighbor had a good sized party last night They have teenagers and seem to have a big get together every month or so. While walking the dog, we ran into everyone heading home.4
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