"Toning" is a deception
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"Toned" has been in common usage for 40 years, and most women have a fairly consistent image of what that looks like. It's a combination of muscle development and body fat that produces an appearance of being lean but not skinny, skinny-fat, or muscular.
As a trainer, you should show her how to achieve it, not tell her she's an idiot for using the wrong words.8 -
I totally get why it frustrates you @ninerbuff and I applaud you for trying to get the word out about the truth of females lifting. But honestly to me, it's just a descriptive word that the majority of the world understands what it means to an extent. Like someone else said, it's all subjective. I look at it as no different than bulky or ripped or all the other words that we use to describe a "look". They are just descriptive words for a look that can mean different things to different people. Muscles may not "tone", but they don't "rip" either in the way people use the word. They tear and repair in growth, or they badly tear in the case of injury, but that's not what people are thinking of when they say ripped.
"I want to get toned." "I want to look toned." These are common descriptions for wanting to look relatively lean with slight, but not much muscle definition. - A swimsuit model for example. Probably in the range of 18-22% BF with low to moderate muscle mass for a female.
'I don't want to get bulky" "I don't want to look bulky" - Common descriptions for having higher than average muscle mass along with average to slightly higher body fat. Ex. A bodybuilder at the end of a bulk phase. Could possibly mean to some highly defined muscle definition. Probably in the range of 25% BF with high muscle mass for a female.
"I want to get ripped." "I want to look ripped." - Common descriptions for wanting to be ultra lean, possibly contest prep ready. Could also be used in conjunction with wanting higher levels of muscle mass with highly defined musculature, vascularity and at or below essential levels of body fat. Probably in the range of 12-15% BF with average to high muscle mass for a female.12 -
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I'm hoping to get some chiseling or sculpting in this week 😂. But I'll still call it toning because like a fine instrument, I want to be toned.1
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I still use the word toned. It just means gaining sexy muscle while keeping body fat at around 20%.
I hip thrust 260 lbs currently and I’m working on my barbell squat. I’m not afraid of lifting heavy and I would still call myself toned.
You call toned ‘muscular but not defined and not bulky’. Toned is one syllable and expels less energy to say 😋6 -
I always kinda giggle at "toned", personally. This thread was an interesting read.
I remember older ppl saying to me " you just want to be toned not muscular". I guess because I was a woman. And I just sort of scratched my head at that when I was very young. Now that I lift and some of those ppl still have that mindset I say flat out, I lift heavy because I like to. I like my muscle weather it's *toned* or not I don't care. I don't use that word myself, though. I am muscular. Period. 🤷🤷.
Great thread. Thanks for reviving.2 -
I still get the occasional "what are good toning exercises?" and just bite my tongue so there's no long drawn out discussion. Thanks for reading.I always kinda giggle at "toned", personally. This thread was an interesting read.
I remember older ppl saying to me " you just want to be toned not muscular". I guess because I was a woman. And I just sort of scratched my head at that when I was very young. Now that I lift and some of those ppl still have that mindset I say flat out, I lift heavy because I like to. I like my muscle weather it's *toned* or not I don't care. I don't use that word myself, though. I am muscular. Period. 🤷🤷.
Great thread. Thanks for reviving.
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I still get the occasional "what are good toning exercises?" and just bite my tongue so there's no long drawn out discussion. Thanks for reading.
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I see no harm in using the word 'tone' as a descriptor of results. It's legitimate term one can use. I've heard men use the term as well for themselves.
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I see no harm in using the word 'tone' as a descriptor of results. It's ILLlegitimate term one can use. I've heard men use the term as well for themselves.
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Fixed it for you
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I see no harm in using the word 'tone' as a descriptor of results. It's ILLlegitimate term one can use. I've heard men use the term as well for themselves.
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Lol, if someone said to me "I'm liking my muscle tone!" I'd probably jump in the air and high five them for using "tone" correctly.
I see no harm in using the word 'tone' as a descriptor of results. It's ILLlegitimate term one can use. I've heard men use the term as well for themselves.Fixed it for you
LOL
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Lol, if someone said to me "I'm liking my muscle tone!" I'd probably jump in the air and high five them for using "tone" correctly.
I see no harm in using the word 'tone' as a descriptor of results. It's ILLlegitimate term one can use. I've heard men use the term as well for themselves.Fixed it for you
LOL
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Lol, if someone said to me "I'm liking my muscle tone!" I'd probably jump in the air and high five them for using "tone" correctly.
I see no harm in using the word 'tone' as a descriptor of results. It's ILLlegitimate term one can use. I've heard men use the term as well for themselves.Fixed it for you
LOL
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Lol, if someone said to me "I'm liking my muscle tone!" I'd probably jump in the air and high five them for using "tone" correctly.
I see no harm in using the word 'tone' as a descriptor of results. It's ILLlegitimate term one can use. I've heard men use the term as well for themselves.Fixed it for you
LOL
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You can either make a muscle stronger or make it grow but I am clueless as to how to tone it...🤷♂️0 -
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Lol, if someone said to me "I'm liking my muscle tone!" I'd probably jump in the air and high five them for using "tone" correctly.
I see no harm in using the word 'tone' as a descriptor of results. It's ILLlegitimate term one can use. I've heard men use the term as well for themselves.Fixed it for you
LOL
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I'm liking my muscular, but not defined body....better?0 -
You have definition. It's just not a super high degree. When people in the industry start calling you "shredded" or "ripped", they are describing a pretty low bodyfat degree of definition.
Lol, if someone said to me "I'm liking my muscle tone!" I'd probably jump in the air and high five them for using "tone" correctly.
I see no harm in using the word 'tone' as a descriptor of results. It's ILLlegitimate term one can use. I've heard men use the term as well for themselves.Fixed it for you
LOL
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I'm liking my muscular, but not defined body....better?
If you have some definition, you can definitely see separation of muscle.
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You have definition. It's just not a super high degree. When people in the industry start calling you "shredded" or "ripped", they are describing a pretty low bodyfat degree of definition.
Lol, if someone said to me "I'm liking my muscle tone!" I'd probably jump in the air and high five them for using "tone" correctly.
I see no harm in using the word 'tone' as a descriptor of results. It's ILLlegitimate term one can use. I've heard men use the term as well for themselves.Fixed it for you
LOL
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I'm liking my muscular, but not defined body....better?
If you have some definition, you can definitely see separation of muscle.
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Thank you 😊 I work hard 😓1 -
Lol, for some reason this appeared on my FB this morning. What's really ironic is she says it works "arms" when the majority of movements directly affect the shoulder and rotator cuff. How in the hell does this woman claim to be a trainer and actually get away with it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nf5VWTKx9g
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Lol, for some reason this appeared on my FB this morning. What's really ironic is she says it works "arms" when the majority of movements directly affect the shoulder and rotator cuff. How in the hell does this woman claim to be a trainer and actually get away with it?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nf5VWTKx9g
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Have you seen Rachael Attard? OMG!! She’s another Tracy Anderson!!!0 -
No, but now you've peaked my interest.Lol, for some reason this appeared on my FB this morning. What's really ironic is she says it works "arms" when the majority of movements directly affect the shoulder and rotator cuff. How in the hell does this woman claim to be a trainer and actually get away with it?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nf5VWTKx9g
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Have you seen Rachael Attard? OMG!! She’s another Tracy Anderson!!!
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