Frustrated not losing muffin top

Need to get down to sub 15%

I had to google what "gear" means in this context, so I am by no means knowledgeable. Nonetheless, expecting visible results in 7 days would seem to indicate a profound need for more and better information, especially if taking something with nontrivial and sometimes long term side effects. I wish you the best, OP, and hope you seek out a lot more information from reliable sources.

Not that you seem particularly hell-bent on doing this the most intelligent way possible, but regardless, since nobody else has mentioned it yet, I'll say you need to make sure and get your bloodwork done regularly when you're running AAS, especially multiple compounds. Hepatoxicity is no joke and I have also heard from multiple (reliable) people that Winstrol can have negative effects on your joints (pain, etc).

Sinisterbarbie1 wrote: »

Jthanmyfitnesspal wrote: »

Depending on age, the muffin top won't go away; it'll just get smaller.

Unless I am of the wrong age group to comment — i am post menopausal — my personal experience is that it is more body type driven than age driven. When I was fat (I have lost well over 50+ lbs) I didn’t particularly have a muffin top, and now that my BMI is 20 I definitely don’t have one. I tended to put on weight all over more or less evenly. I will say though that while my gut is more or less flat, so is my butt these days so we all have our body complaints …..

🤣😂 I've got no muffin top, but also no boobs... I'm an A-cup bra on a good day, so it's true... we all have our complaints

djaape96 wrote: »

Been doing great on 1600 kcal sunday is only day. I do 2.3k, didnt take gear without consulting people beforehand, just wanted to know how ling it usually takes

People who promote the use of illegal, dangerous drugs? Certainly not medical professionals. I know a number of people in the weightlifting world, and a few in the body building world, so I have some decent exposure to the subculture, and a very good understanding of the drugs and dosages being used, and as a medical professional myself I would NEVER EVER take that stuff.

Whether you use APEDs or not is your personal risk assessment to make, you're a grown up and can decide what risks you are willing to take, but I do strongly suggest that you at least inform your primary care provider so that they at least know what to look for or test for if anything starts going sideways.

But regardless, you are going to get frustrated if you try to rush this. No matter what you do, you are going to have to stick with it to maintain your results, so instead of being in a rush, I recommend that you try to focus on figuring out what kind of lifestyle you are comfortable maintaining, and then just let time take care of the results for you.

I say this as someone who coached my spouse from belly and muffin top to visible abs and sharp v-cuts with just consistent diet and exercise. There was never a specific body comp or weight loss goal, just a focus on constantly improving and optimising lifestyle. It took some time, but the whole process was easy and now he can't imagine living any other way, so it's self-sustaining.

I also say this as someone who myself got really into body building when I was younger, couldn't sustain it when my school/work got too demanding, and then ended up with nothing to show for it except that I was briefly chubby as all of my gains rapidly disappeared and I had to totally modify my eating again. It's still hard for me to think back on what my body once was and know that I'll never get it back. The only thing worse than no gains is past gains that are long gone.

Fitness isn't a goal, it's an ongoing lifestyle, and being in a rush doesn't really help you build the kind of ongoing, sustainable habits that you need to stay fit.

Feel free to ignore my advice, but having been-there-done-that (minus the drugs), I figured I would share some perspective, even though you likely don't want to hear it because what you want is results. I get that, I do.

ReenieHJ wrote: »

OP, you must've come back and deleted some of your post, regarding drugs or I read it in a different topic somewhere.
It always boggles my mind when a person, who is trying to become healthier, does it in such unhealthy ways. And it's not just drugs, I've tried a few 'Speed type lose weight fast drugs' in my past as well, Remember Dexatrim? Not to mention severely undereating and over exercising. I see others, in my life, who skimp terribly on healthy food so they can eat ice cream instead, more often than not. I lived a week on some liquid diet that didn't make a bit of sense, back 50 years ago.
People are striving to be *the* perfect image of who they think they should be, comparing themselves to others. I'm 68 so spent many years doing ridiculous stuff, trying to achieve that too. It's amazing how much you learn and realize as you get older.
Time. Patience. Sustainable practices. Don't kill yourself in the process of trying to get healthy.

Ugh, yeah, I had a stint with ephedrine as a teen, I bought it as a "health supplement" at the drug store!! I can't believe pharmacies used to legally sell speed to kids. Unreal.

That's very old school though, and shockingly relatively harmless compared to the drugs young people use today.

Ephedrine is like a decaf latte compared to the elephant doses of thyroid meds and clenbuterol (asthma meds for horses) that kids take today.